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Posted: 2/13/2017 11:28:51 PM EDT
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In before you're a pussy because it's not the marines.
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Posted: 2/13/2017 11:29:25 PM EDT
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11B
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Posted: 2/13/2017 11:35:24 PM EDT
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I'm an 11B, and a Recruiter.
I love my job, and I'm really good at shooting motherfuckers who really deserve it right in their goddamn suckholes. With that being said, however, think about the long game. I've been in for 14 years. When I retire, there's not much I can do in the Infantry field outside of the military or contractor work. I tell the folks I recruit "think of it this way: if you get hit by a bus the day after you graduate your MOS school, what could you do with your training?". As an Infantryman, especially as a new junior enlisted, the answer is clean shit really good and get yelled at. At least with 90% of the other MOS's, you have some sort of valuable skill you can use in the real world. But, you'll still be a POG, so there's that..... |
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Posted: 2/13/2017 11:37:15 PM EDT
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I'm an 11B, and a Recruiter. I love my job, and I'm really good at shooting motherfuckers who really deserve it right in their goddamn suckholes. With that being said, however, think about the long game. I've been in for 14 years. When I retire, there's not much I can do in the Infantry field outside of the military or contractor work. I tell the folks I recruit "think of it this way: if you get hit by a bus the day after you graduate your MOS school, what could you do with your training?". As an Infantryman, especially as a new junior enlisted, the answer is clean shit really good and get yelled at. At least with 90% of the other MOS's, you have some sort of valuable skill you can use in the real world. But, you'll still be a POG, so there's that..... |
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Posted: 2/13/2017 11:44:14 PM EDT
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Also want to get an Option 40 on my contract. Good lord why? Medical field - Ft. Sam Houston for AIT - women to men ratio 7:1... |
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Posted: 2/13/2017 11:44:38 PM EDT
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In before you're a pussy because it's not the marines. Quote HistoryQuoted:
In before you're a pussy because it's not the marines. Meh Quoted:
Also want to get an Option 40 on my contract. |
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Posted: 2/13/2017 11:47:24 PM EDT
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You can get the Option 40 with 25 other MOS. It's definitely something to shoot for, but if you take it, and get a big fat fucking bonus (15-35k right now w/seasonal bonus and quick ship) you had better make it.
If you dont graduate RASP, you are now needs of the Army. You also lose your bonus, because you didnt conplete your end of the contract, which was to graduate RASP and be selected into the 75th. Just sayin man, I pulled an 88M for a guy, with 40 Opt, for 35k last week. If it were me going through it again, and you still want the 40 Opt, get 92R. Parachute Rigger comes with a 20k, plus another 5 kicker for 40 Opt, and you jump like a motherfucker. All the Riggers in my area are all MFF qualified and have more than 100 jumps each. |
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Posted: 2/13/2017 11:49:56 PM EDT
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You can get the Option 40 with 25 other MOS. It's definitely something to shoot for, but if you take it, and get a big fat fucking bonus (15-35k right now w/seasonal bonus and quick ship) you had better make it. If you dont graduate RASP, you are now needs of the Army. You also lose your bonus, because you didnt conplete your end of the contract, which was to graduate RASP and be selected into the 75th. Just sayin man, I pulled an 88M for a guy, with 40 Opt, for 35k last week. If it were me going through it again, and you still want the 40 Opt, get 92R. Parachute Rigger comes with a 20k, plus another 5 kicker for 40 Opt, and you jump like a motherfucker. All the Riggers in my area are all MFF qualified and have more than 100 jumps each. I want a combat job. Either Infantry or Combat Engineer. I didn't know about the bonus either. |
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Posted: 2/13/2017 11:54:13 PM EDT
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You can get the Option 40 with 25 other MOS. It's definitely something to shoot for, but if you take it, and get a big fat fucking bonus (15-35k right now w/seasonal bonus and quick ship) you had better make it. If you dont graduate RASP, you are now needs of the Army. You also lose your bonus, because you didnt conplete your end of the contract, which was to graduate RASP and be selected into the 75th. Just sayin man, I pulled an 88M for a guy, with 40 Opt, for 35k last week. If it were me going through it again, and you still want the 40 Opt, get 92R. Parachute Rigger comes with a 20k, plus another 5 kicker for 40 Opt, and you jump like a motherfucker. All the Riggers in my area are all MFF qualified and have more than 100 jumps each. But then he's a rigger. OP, if you want to shoot people and break their shit, get an 11B with option 40 or go 03xx in the corps. Full fucking stop. |
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Posted: 2/13/2017 11:56:49 PM EDT
[#10]
Go jump out of airplanes and kill people.
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Posted: 2/13/2017 11:59:15 PM EDT
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If you go 11B, you learn mad janitor skills for when you get out.
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Posted: 2/14/2017 12:00:22 AM EDT
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Bro, let me tell you, combat isnt all it's cracked up to be now. It used to be fun, now it's all political bullshit. Good luck getting into a good firefight nowadays. You can keep all that shit anyhow. I've been shot, stabbed, and blown up. It aint fun, especially working your way from a wheelchair back to fighting condition in less than 18 months.
If you want to be an Infantryman, go for it man. If you want to be a big swinging dick barrel chested freedom fighter, why dont you go 18X and be done with it? If you fuck it up, you're still an airborne Infantryman, and you can go kick in doors all you like. |
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Posted: 2/14/2017 12:03:10 AM EDT
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I'm not mil, but I've worked with tons of them and grew up with a Marine combat engineer as a HS teacher for 3 years. I'd go with that. There are some good job opportunities for a combat engineer after the military. My HS teacher became an architect since he was good at building bridges in Vietnam (usually while being shot at).
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Posted: 2/14/2017 12:05:21 AM EDT
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I was a 12B. Its a bit more interesting than 11B but the job prospects are the same after discharge. Not a whole lot of civilian interest in blowing stuff up, digging fortifications, stringing barbed wire, putting in minefields, digging latrines, build bunkers, fill sandbags, building obstacles, mine sweeps, and stuff. And then when you finally get through with all that they use you as a garbage truck service and put you out on guard duty and go along with the grunts doing their activities. Lots of boring ass kicking work and tons of shovel time. Find something in the medical field that requires air conditioning or fix generators. Or better yet, be a pastry chef. Never heard of one of them going to the field.
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Posted: 2/14/2017 12:05:32 AM EDT
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What is the current turn around time for 11bs/18xs currently? I thought from a thread a year or so back that it was like ~6 months MINIMUM until ship date. IE, even if the OP signed papers tomorrow he wouldn't be shipping until August/September for basic. I could be wrong OP, I wish you the best of luck. Follow your gut.
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Posted: 2/14/2017 12:06:03 AM EDT
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12B Engineers Lead The Way. Learn to blow shit up.
Actually if you go into supply there are ALWAYS supply jobs yea I know no glory there but its a regular check and a warm bed and hot meal not sleeping in a hole you dug. Being able to fly the drones is a really good choice also. Even better go Aviation be a Crew Chief that way your helicopter carries your gear you are not humping it on your back. Being a helicopter mechanic can be a good long term career at good pay. If you ask yourself the question : Is there a civilian counterpart to the job I am selecting you will either make a decision to go for the fun (which will be a shit storm) or go for the long term career. In any case RUN R U N R U N and do pushups and sit ups ..... PT now or pay later. The difference between ARMY and ARMY Guard is one is a full time job and a regular pay check the other pays while you go to war you come home have no job but educational benefits that you better use to get ahead and advance to officer pay. By they time someone is a Captain its like getting two paychecks. |
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Posted: 2/14/2017 12:10:16 AM EDT
[#17]
0300
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Posted: 2/14/2017 12:12:06 AM EDT
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What are your long term plans? If your going 11B or 03xx your best bet is to do 4 and out or stick it out for the long haul and get the pension. I know a lot of guys that did 8-12 years in the infantry, got out, then had to stick with either manual labor jobs or go to college and 30+ years old and not start their careers till almost 40.
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Posted: 2/14/2017 12:12:25 AM EDT
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Take the highest tech MOS you can get. My dad gave me that advice and I did really well after I ETS'd.
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Posted: 2/14/2017 12:13:55 AM EDT
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Bro, let me tell you, combat isnt all it's cracked up to be now. It used to be fun, now it's all political bullshit. Good luck getting into a good firefight nowadays. You can keep all that shit anyhow. I've been shot, stabbed, and blown up. It aint fun, especially working your way from a wheelchair back to fighting condition in less than 18 months. If you want to be an Infantryman, go for it man. If you want to be a big swinging dick barrel chested freedom fighter, why dont you go 18X and be done with it? If you fuck it up, you're still an airborne Infantryman, and you can go kick in doors all you like. THIS. |
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Posted: 2/14/2017 12:17:55 AM EDT
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I want to join this summer and I'm having a difficult time deciding 11B or 12B. Essayons! |
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Posted: 2/14/2017 12:19:55 AM EDT
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It depends on the MOS at the moment, as well as if they're Active/Reserve, if they're a senior or a graduate.
For most grads, you can get a quick ship and be gone in 3 weeks. I put in 3 in Jan that are all gone to basic already, and will be compensated for it handsomely when they graduate their AIT. If you're a senior in HS, you will be waiting at least until early July, mid-Aug. Infantry for seniors is all the way out to September as far as job reservations go, but Grads can be gone by mid March, if you enlisted today for example. Like I said, I am a recruiter at the moment, but not a typical one. I dont give a shit if you join or not. Honestly. I will still get paid on the 1st and 15th either way. I dont have pictures of you in my house, nor do you pay any of my bills. I dont get an extra dollar, a cookie, or even a fucking handshake if you join. On the other hand, my boss wont take me out back and beat me with a hose if you dont join. That's the best part of my job: it doesnt matter to me one way or the other what you do. I'm still me, and soon enough I'll be the retired version of that same motherfucker! ETA: I should clarify, before someone gets their jimmies all rustled up: I love my job, and enjoy helping young men and women find the right path. I dont bash services, and will walk someone right down the hall to the other service offices if the Army isnt the best fit for them. Army recruiters are no longer on numbers "quotas". If I put in 10 people, or 0 people next month, it doesnt matter. I work more like a guidance counselor than a Recruiter. I want you to find a plan that will not only benefit the Army, but one that will set you up for success if you decide to get out. Dont think about the job you'll have for the next 3,5,10,20 years; think about the one you want AFTER that.... |
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Posted: 2/14/2017 12:23:55 AM EDT
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My brother is 12B and loves it. He'd been in the service almost 10 years. Multiple stations around the world, Jumped on the F22 crash in alaska, many jump medals from training around the world and 3 deployments under his belt (Seems to always be doing route clearance) . Not only do you get to play with fun toys. You also learn shit that will get you a job when you get out.
Im sure its not everyones cup of tea but like I said. He loves it and will probably be a lifer. |
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Posted: 2/14/2017 12:36:07 AM EDT
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12B here and I say be an engineer since we are supposed to be the jack of all trades. Plus we blow shit up
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Posted: 2/14/2017 12:59:53 AM EDT
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If you go 11B, you learn mad janitor skills for when you get out. I have to dig up the sheet they gave me when I ETS'ed - I think it was about 7 credits for map reading, small weapons maintenance, & a couple of other things... |
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Posted: 2/14/2017 1:09:35 AM EDT
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I'm an 11B, and a Recruiter. I love my job, and I'm really good at shooting motherfuckers who really deserve it right in their goddamn suckholes. With that being said, however, think about the long game. I've been in for 14 years. When I retire, there's not much I can do in the Infantry field outside of the military or contractor work. I tell the folks I recruit "think of it this way: if you get hit by a bus the day after you graduate your MOS school, what could you do with your training?". As an Infantryman, especially as a new junior enlisted, the answer is clean shit really good and get yelled at. At least with 90% of the other MOS's, you have some sort of valuable skill you can use in the real world. But, you'll still be a POG, so there's that..... Worst recruiter ever. |
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Posted: 2/14/2017 1:18:26 AM EDT
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Can you stop sending me Ratards? Thank you.
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Posted: 2/14/2017 1:23:01 AM EDT
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Are you fucking dumb? 11B is for dumb fucks who do not want a career or a trade. No offense to your infantry pukes, but come on. First ones to get involuntarily separated when there is a draw down. Ask my nephew.
Get a trade. |
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Posted: 2/14/2017 1:41:40 AM EDT
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Let me tell you from experience.
When you join, you are going to want to be a special forces ranger jump qualified sniper. Give boot camp about 3 days and if you're anything like me, you'll forget all about that crap. Like some others have said, pick a job that will teach you skills that you can use "if" you end up getting out. Don't count on staying in until retirement. ETA: ALSO!!!! I don't give a crap if the recruiter offers you tons of money for a really long initial enlistment. DO NOT DO IT. Do the absolute shortest enlistment you possibly can. This is for 2 reasons. If you end up not liking the military you get to have fun for a couple years and go home. If you end up liking the military then you get to re-enlist before everyone else who signed long contracts. Your first re-enlistment you "normally" get to pick you duty station / move closer to home, etc (unless things have changed). |
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Posted: 2/14/2017 1:42:37 AM EDT
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Are you fucking dumb? 11B is for dumb fucks who do not want a career or a trade. Get a trade. This may come as a shocker, some people want to do stuff they can't do in the .civ world. eta: Carpenter before and after the .mil here |
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Posted: 2/14/2017 1:48:19 AM EDT
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I want a combat job. Either Infantry or Combat Engineer. I didn't know about the bonus either. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You can get the Option 40 with 25 other MOS. It's definitely something to shoot for, but if you take it, and get a big fat fucking bonus (15-35k right now w/seasonal bonus and quick ship) you had better make it. If you dont graduate RASP, you are now needs of the Army. You also lose your bonus, because you didnt conplete your end of the contract, which was to graduate RASP and be selected into the 75th. Just sayin man, I pulled an 88M for a guy, with 40 Opt, for 35k last week. If it were me going through it again, and you still want the 40 Opt, get 92R. Parachute Rigger comes with a 20k, plus another 5 kicker for 40 Opt, and you jump like a motherfucker. All the Riggers in my area are all MFF qualified and have more than 100 jumps each. I want a combat job. Either Infantry or Combat Engineer. I didn't know about the bonus either. You will do more of what an 11B does and what a 12B does in one enlistment with an Option 40 contract than either of them will do in a career. Make sure you're in exceptional shape, not a fat turd. I saw guys with Ranger contracts in 30th AG that I looked at and knew there was no way they would pass Day 0 of RIP. Ranger Regiment is a totally different world than the rest of the Army. It is worth doing whatever it takes to get in, if that means dedicating every moment from now until then to doing it. If you haven't been preparing already though, you might be at a disadvantage, because a lot of different dudes who really want to be there come with an extremely competitive spirit, and are not dummies. |
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Posted: 2/14/2017 1:50:21 AM EDT
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Are you fucking dumb? 11B is for dumb fucks who do not want a career or a trade. No offense to your infantry pukes, but come on. First ones to get involuntarily separated when there is a draw down. Ask my nephew. Get a trade. If only there were a program whereby a GI could obtain an education and or skilled training after serving the country, for free. |
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Posted: 2/14/2017 2:01:16 AM EDT
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11B
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Posted: 2/14/2017 2:01:52 AM EDT
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Are you fucking dumb? 11B is for dumb fucks who do not want a career or a trade. No offense to your infantry pukes, but come on. First ones to get involuntarily separated when there is a draw down. Ask my nephew. Get a trade. When I was in, 11 series had the highest average GT scores of all the MOSs that didn't have GT requirements. The reason was that a lot of smart guys who survived a rebellious or adventurous childhood, still wanted more, or they came from families with a sense of patriotism and service. From what I'm hearing now, there are a lot of tards across the military, which is a reflection of society as a whole, with certain physical and some mental screening process. You will learn and experience leadership opportunities as an 11B that you will never see in most of the rest of the Army, endure hardships that make pogue 1SGs and career officers cringe at and search for safe spaces, while you grin and drive on past their weakness. Those kinds of leaders are needed in life after you get out, and you will have tons of college money to help you transition into the civilian world, where your discipline and determination will be unmatched by the obese betas that surround you. Women will flock to your physique, the scent of testosterone overcoming their societal conditioning towards the illusion of superiority over you, especially when they see that you can actually do a real man's work. Combined with a finely-honed mind that is adept at avoiding BS, and has an attenuated series of various comedic styles learned from years of dealing with morons in the officer and senior NCO corps, your wit and quick thinking will amuse and inspire the hordes of wandering souls, looking for someone with the scars of closely-won victory. ...or you can sign up to be a pogue, your choice. |
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Posted: 2/14/2017 2:02:03 AM EDT
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Also want to get an Option 40 on my contract. |
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Posted: 2/14/2017 2:03:43 AM EDT
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If you go 11B, you learn mad janitor skills for when you get out. |
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Posted: 2/14/2017 8:01:19 AM EDT
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Are you fucking dumb? 11B is for dumb fucks who do not want a career or a trade. No offense to your infantry pukes, but come on. First ones to get involuntarily separated when there is a draw down. Ask my nephew. Get a trade. |
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Posted: 2/14/2017 8:04:33 AM EDT
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And since infantry obviously so dumb that would make my friend who is a programmer and got a 110 GT on the ASVAB a dumbass.
A 0341 in the Marine Corps, Mortarman. |
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Posted: 2/14/2017 8:04:43 AM EDT
[#39]
0311
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Posted: 2/14/2017 8:12:05 AM EDT
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You could go 31B and see combat and get blown up and hurt just as much. It get's old after awhile and your body can only handle so much.
 If I were to do it again, it would have to be a desk-ish job like 25D.
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Posted: 2/14/2017 8:13:08 AM EDT
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You could go 31B and see combat and get blown up and hurt just as much. It get's old after awhile and your body can only handle so much. If I were to do it again, it would have to be a desk-ish job like 25D. |
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Posted: 2/14/2017 8:16:35 AM EDT
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Go 11x and let the Army choose for you.
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Posted: 2/14/2017 8:16:40 AM EDT
[#43]
The Army is the best thing that ever happened to me and I hated almost every minute of it. With that out of the way:
2 schools of thought here: "If you are going to do it then really go do it; 11B and nothing else" or "Choose a job that will help you later on". Sounds like you are leaning towards option 1 (can you run?). I can't tell you what to choose but I wouldn't go for the longest contract term either. Get a short contract and maybe you can re-class at the turn. If you like the job then re-enlist for a duty station in Europe. |
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Posted: 2/14/2017 8:19:12 AM EDT
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Are you fucking dumb? 11B is for dumb fucks who do not want a career or a trade. No offense to your infantry pukes, but come on. First ones to get involuntarily separated when there is a draw down. Ask my nephew. Get a trade. Are you fucking dumb? You seem to think you matter. The ONLY reason anything exists in the military is to support the Infantry. No infantry, no Army, no military. OP, do what you want to do. |
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Posted: 2/14/2017 8:19:56 AM EDT
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US Army Infantry
Everything else is just support |
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Posted: 2/14/2017 8:28:04 AM EDT
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Alright, where to start. Current 11b here, been in 5 years. I wanted nothing more than to do my time and get out of the army. Currently have 2 months left in the Army and am realizing well shit what the fuck am I going to do when I get out? Can get a couple decent paying jobs, but they are dead ends with no room for progression.
Yes there is pride in the Infantry. Yes I made the best friends I'll ever have in my life. Yes I had some really great times. Yes I had the absolute shittiest times ever. Would I do it all over again? Not too sure. Right now I am looking at reclassing to get something that will help me in the civilian world. But with my current situation there are only a couple other MOS that are open to me. As for option 40, your success rate would be much much higher in a POG mos than 11b if regiment is where you want to be. As for infantryman being dumb, its simply not the case. I have been to multiple any MOS schools and the 11Bs consistently had the highest GT scores. That being said there are exceptions to every rule, as I have met some real dumb mother fuckers in the infantry. If you have any specific questions feel free to PM me and I'd be happy to help, no matter what your decision. |
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Posted: 2/14/2017 8:36:06 AM EDT
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go 15U chinook mechanic, then go 160th. get to go to airborne school, SERE school, you're a mechanic, and you get to crew a 33 million dollar sports car. I wish I would've done that. and not to mention you can get your A+P mechanic license while you're in.
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Posted: 2/14/2017 8:46:02 AM EDT
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Do some research on route clearance. Imagine taking your foot off the gas of a vehicle and letting it roll. Now imagine that is too fast and you have to ride the brake and slow that roll down some.
Now imagine doing that for 12 hours a day for a year. In conclusion, out of the two, I would say 11B. |
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Posted: 2/14/2017 8:50:36 AM EDT
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Do some research on route clearance. Imagine taking your foot off the gas of a vehicle and letting it roll. Now imagine that is too fast and you have to ride the brake and slow that roll down some. Now imagine doing that for 12 hours a day for a year. In conclusion, out of the two, I would say 11B. They blew up bridges in Savig Private Ryan. 
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Posted: 2/14/2017 8:54:29 AM EDT
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Consider 19D (Cavalry Scout) all the fun of an 11B, with spurs and a Stetson.
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