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Posted: 3/13/2006 1:52:42 PM EDT
500K serial number range, HAS to have been rebuilt as all parked. Excellent condition to include the stock, no chips or cracks just dark. Ladder type sights, beautiful bore that is almost pristene, Remington manufactured, no import stamp. Most parts have and E stamped in them and the flaming bomb. 30/06 caliber. Leather USGI sling.

Are these pretty accurate rifles? What should one of these be priced at? I can get it for around $600 but is that to much? Bolt locks up nice and tight, and the only parking wear is a bit on the bolt and some on the ears of the front sight.

Also a 1903 for sale with the mag cut off button in nice shape.

Thanks all.
Link Posted: 3/13/2006 1:55:41 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/13/2006 1:58:50 PM EDT
The 1917 is a very good rifle. I think $600 is about $100 too high. But you never pay too much for a good rifle, you only pay too much too soon. It is a better rifle than the 03 and the 03A3.

I had a Model of 1917. Sold it and have regretted it ever since.

The 03 may be a good buy, too. I am glad I don't have to make your decision for you.
Link Posted: 3/13/2006 2:04:47 PM EDT
It definitely is a solid beast, seems to be more rugged them a 03.
Have lots of old USGI 1911s, some Garands, a carbine and M14s [M1As but all GI except the receiver] Don't know anything about the "1917" but its a tough looking old bird.
Link Posted: 3/13/2006 2:46:26 PM EDT
For a rebuild, that's too high. You didn't mention the bbl so I'll presume it's been replaced as well.

$500 max.
Link Posted: 3/13/2006 2:47:02 PM EDT
What's the story on the 03?
Link Posted: 3/13/2006 3:36:29 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Dracster:
What's the story on the 03?



Don't know that much about the 03, but it was in nice shape, had a 1943 stamped on it so I would assune it was rebuilt in 43? It was in very nice shape also. Both were on consignment, I believe they were from the same persons collection.
Link Posted: 3/13/2006 3:38:40 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Dracster:
For a rebuild, that's too high. You didn't mention the bbl so I'll presume it's been replaced as well.

$500 max.



BBL had an E stamped on it just like the other parts. Flaming bomb don't know if it was replaced or not but the parking was an exact match.
Link Posted: 3/13/2006 4:05:39 PM EDT
I wouldn't pay more than $400 for that rifle as described.
Link Posted: 3/13/2006 4:28:36 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ken_mays:
I wouldn't pay more than $400 for that rifle as described.



That was my first thought, between 4 and 500. Don't find to many around here that have not been dinked with, "sporter" stock, and all the rest. The few I have seen have little to no rifling left in the bore and they are pretty swiss cheesed out also.
Link Posted: 3/13/2006 4:32:51 PM EDT
How's the bore?

If you want to shoot it, that's most important.
Link Posted: 3/13/2006 4:37:42 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Old_Painless:
How's the bore?

If you want to shoot it, that's most important.



The bore is just about perfect as is the crown. Very sharp and crisp rifling, no pitting whatsoever.
Link Posted: 3/13/2006 4:41:23 PM EDT

Originally Posted By fxntime:

Originally Posted By Old_Painless:
How's the bore?

If you want to shoot it, that's most important.



The bore is just about perfect as is the crown. Very sharp and crisp rifling, no pitting whatsoever.



Then that price is not unreasonable.
Link Posted: 3/13/2006 4:44:17 PM EDT
Are you all torn over +/- $100 or so?
Then ask your self why you want it?
If you have been dieing to add a 1917 to your collection, then find the one that fits your description of what you want, and fuck all to the price.

If your just trying to find 'a good deal', you'll probably just sell it again sooner than later anyway.

IMHO.

Link Posted: 3/13/2006 4:45:29 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Old_Painless:

Originally Posted By fxntime:

Originally Posted By Old_Painless:
How's the bore?

If you want to shoot it, that's most important.



The bore is just about perfect as is the crown. Very sharp and crisp rifling, no pitting whatsoever.



Then that price is not unreasonable.



All the one'e I have seen before always had weak bores, I see lots of 03 BBLs for sale still in the packaging but not 1917 one's. Course, I might not be looking in the right places.

Are they pretty accurate rifles?
Link Posted: 3/13/2006 4:56:58 PM EDT

Originally Posted By fxntime:
All the one'e I have seen before always had weak bores, I see lots of 03 BBLs for sale still in the packaging but not 1917 one's. Course, I might not be looking in the right places.

Are they pretty accurate rifles?



Yes, they can be great shooters.

Here's a link to mine: www.theboxotruth.com/docs/edu5.htm
Link Posted: 3/13/2006 5:18:04 PM EDT
Thank you all. I'll make an offer on it tomorrow or wendsday.

Link Posted: 3/13/2006 5:18:51 PM EDT
Not a spectacular price, but if it were REALLY nice and I REALLY wanted it, I'd probably go for it.

Keep in mind that the CMP currently has none of these in anything resembling good condition and they're only getting more scarce. They will only go up in value. The 'good' ones will only go up faster.

Current CMP status:
M1917 Enfield Rack Grade
$350-Sold out - not accepting orders at this time

M1917 Enfield Service Grade
SOLD OUT-Not Accepting Orders at this time

M1917 Enfield Poor Grade
$250

R011X M1917 Enfield Salvage Grade $95 SOLD OUT
R011BR M1917 Enfield Stripped Barrel Receiver $50

Here's my M1917 Eddystone. I did pay $600 for her, but she is still in the arsenal wrap it was put into after refurb. I only gave that much because I never saw one still in the wrap.




Link Posted: 3/13/2006 6:27:33 PM EDT
Yeah, it's hard to find 1917s in good condition. Most of the ones I've seen have been in fair to poor, or the other extreme.
Link Posted: 3/14/2006 5:03:20 AM EDT

Originally Posted By fxntime:

Originally Posted By Dracster:
For a rebuild, that's too high. You didn't mention the bbl so I'll presume it's been replaced as well.

$500 max.



BBL had an E stamped on it just like the other parts. Flaming bomb don't know if it was replaced or not but the parking was an exact match.



An Eddystone bbl on a Remington reciever is a replacement.

Still $500 max. The closer to $400 the better.
Link Posted: 3/14/2006 5:57:24 AM EDT
I paid 500 for a post WWII rebuild with a crispy Wimcheater baoynet,sold by the DCM in the early 1950's as couple of years ago. It was supposed to be too much. But I have a crisp WWII era 1917 in near perfect condition with a perfect bayonet. IMHO it was worth every penny. Condition is what sets it apart, you can pay less and get a lot less gun. Try and get it for 500 first, all the same.
Link Posted: 3/14/2006 6:10:44 AM EDT
Prices on '17's have been climbing for the last 6 years or so. The 'E' marked parts are Eddystone, which is very common for an arsenal rebuild. The bore condition is a big plus, although I've found that dark bores can shoot just fine as well. $600 might be steep by $50-100, depends on how bad you want it.
Link Posted: 3/14/2006 6:21:54 AM EDT
BUY BUY BUY IT!!!

1917's in unfucked with condition are getting harder to find...
Most 1917's are rebuilds...I paid around 500 for mine a few years ago...
5-600 is not unreasonable...

Now you gotta buy it's brother..the P-14 in .303 British..

Also get thee a Parker Hale PH5B rear sight to go with it...
Runs about $100 or more...IF you can find it, and it IS well worth it...


Link Posted: 3/14/2006 6:50:27 AM EDT
The 1917 is capable of outstanding accuracy and is renowned for it receiver strength.

Sounds about $100 high from your description.
Link Posted: 3/14/2006 6:56:37 AM EDT
Man this thread brings back memories. I bought a well used but in very good shape Eddystone in 1967 for $30. Shot it and hunted with it for around 10 years and sold it to a guy who just had to have it for $100.

I guess my crystal ball has always been a little fogged up

NMSight
Link Posted: 3/14/2006 7:11:46 AM EDT
Sad thing with many of these rifles is they were "sportorized". To me that's like Andy Warhol updating a Rockwell painting.

My father bought one like this about 5-6 years ago for $150. He's not a collector so he loves it because its accurate and it has a decent set of lyman sights. It'll look like the original once I get my hands on it.

Link Posted: 3/14/2006 7:18:31 AM EDT

Originally Posted By fxntime:
500K serial number range, HAS to have been rebuilt as all parked. Excellent condition to include the stock, no chips or cracks just dark. Ladder type sights, beautiful bore that is almost pristene, Remington manufactured, no import stamp. Most parts have and E stamped in them and the flaming bomb. 30/06 caliber. Leather USGI sling.

Are these pretty accurate rifles? What should one of these be priced at? I can get it for around $600 but is that to much? Bolt locks up nice and tight, and the only parking wear is a bit on the bolt and some on the ears of the front sight.

Also a 1903 for sale with the mag cut off button in nice shape.

Thanks all.



Great rifles, $600 isn't a bad price. Seen them cheaper, seen them a LOT higher.
Link Posted: 3/14/2006 10:07:16 AM EDT
I picked up a pristine 5-digit Eddystone in 1999 or 2000 from Clay at Impact arms. Original dark blue finish and barrel, nice crisp inspection marks on the stock, and a well used original WT and B 1918 dated leather sling. The only non-Eddystone part is the stock which is a Winchester.

Traded a CMP garand for it so it cost me about $420. Clay also had a sweet 1917 winchester bayonet that came with it but he had promised it to somebody else. He got it from the estate of a guy who had purchased it from the old ODCMP. I think the owner had shot it just a few times and then it went into the closet or gunrack.
Link Posted: 3/14/2006 10:29:02 AM EDT
Here is a link to a good M1917 article at the CMP...

www.odcmp.com/Clubs/RifleApp.pdf

Link Posted: 3/15/2006 1:51:08 PM EDT
Did some more checking on it today and made an offer. Has a Remington 1918 dated BBL on it, the bolt handle has a X on the handle. Is a 1918 dated BBL correct for a 500,000 range serial numbered gun? It is every bit as good as I thought and I like the ladder sight along with the close range sight.

Best he said he would do is $600 OTD to include tax. So thats about $565 before.

As for the 1903, thats a 1903A3 in the 4million range with a 1943 date on it. That still has the matte blue finish on the BBL but the receiver has been parked so I am guessing that the BBL has been replaced at some time.
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 2:04:10 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Hamel:
Sad thing with many of these rifles is they were "sportorized". To me that's like Andy Warhol updating a Rockwell painting.



Ya its a lot like hanging all that crap on an AR15!!
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