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Posted: 4/9/2006 8:58:42 AM EDT
In Canada there is this process where a “referendum” can be held to get everyone to vote and pass a particular law, proposal or something.

I am somewhat knowledgeable about American politics but having only been here a while I don’t know all the ins and outs.

Is there some kind of a procedure where there can be a vote and the people can just say, “No…you’re out of control and the bullshit stops here”?
Link Posted: 4/9/2006 9:01:07 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/9/2006 9:02:42 AM EDT by raven]
No, there is nothing like that. It's all done through representative election system, or revolution by force. There is only one nation-wide election, for the presidency. Otherwise it is state-by-state.

Link Posted: 4/9/2006 9:12:34 AM EDT

Originally Posted By raven:
No, there is nothing like that. It's all done through representative election system, or revolution by force. There is only one nation-wide election, for the presidency. Otherwise it is state-by-state.




I guess that's kind of a way of saying, "No…you’re out of control and the bullshit stops here”...sort of the American version of a Canadian referendum.
Link Posted: 4/9/2006 9:24:41 AM EDT

Originally Posted By IAMLEGEND:

Originally Posted By raven:
No, there is nothing like that. It's all done through representative election system, or revolution by force. There is only one nation-wide election, for the presidency. Otherwise it is state-by-state.




I guess that's kind of a way of saying, "No…you’re out of control and the bullshit stops here”...sort of the American version of a Canadian referendum.



You have that, we have the 2nd amendment. You have to remember our charter was drafted by revolutionaries.
Link Posted: 4/9/2006 9:28:03 AM EDT

Originally Posted By raven:

Originally Posted By IAMLEGEND:

Originally Posted By raven:
No, there is nothing like that. It's all done through representative election system, or revolution by force. There is only one nation-wide election, for the presidency. Otherwise it is state-by-state.




I guess that's kind of a way of saying, "No…you’re out of control and the bullshit stops here”...sort of the American version of a Canadian referendum.



You have that, we have the 2nd amendment. You have to remember our charter was drafted by revolutionaries.



Well, to be fair, there was the Upper Canada Rebellion. It’s just that there weren’t enough Patriots at the time…like here now (which isn't to say I advocate revolution, but I mean even patriotic in the way they vote and what they will stand for).
But, that aside, I did come here because I strongly agree with the founding principles.
Link Posted: 4/9/2006 10:23:32 AM EDT
Constitutional Amendment anyone?!?!?!?
Link Posted: 4/9/2006 10:25:08 AM EDT
but if there are enough state level referendums, it would certainly gain the attention of the national gov't.
Link Posted: 4/9/2006 10:42:42 AM EDT

Originally Posted By AmericanPatriot1776:
Constitutional Amendment anyone?!?!?!?




Are you old enough to remember when they tried this with the equal rights amendment?

What a bunch of bullshit.

We just need to voice our opinion loud enough and long enough that our politicians grow a pair and actually pass a law that actually deals with this. Just don't hold your breath.
Link Posted: 4/9/2006 11:41:50 AM EDT
Issue-based national referendums are nothing more than prettied-up mob rule.

Thank God our Founding Fathers created a representative republic and not a parlimentary system.

The two party system is our salvation.
Link Posted: 4/9/2006 12:09:31 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Will-Rogers:
Issue-based national referendums are nothing more than prettied-up mob rule.

Thank God our Founding Fathers created a representative republic and not a parlimentary system.

The two party system is our salvation.



The Founding Fathers did not create that abomination.
Link Posted: 4/9/2006 12:18:14 PM EDT
They may not have created the 2P system, but it is the natural extension of our RepRep system.

The parlimentary system allows for many parties and forces the creation of coalition governments. The result is knee-jerk legislation and governments that come and go at irregular intervals.

There is nothing about the ParSys that is good.
Link Posted: 4/9/2006 12:38:10 PM EDT

Originally Posted By AmericanPatriot1776:
Constitutional Amendment anyone?!?!?!?



We don't need one. What they are doing is already illegal. Keep your powder dry.
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