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Posted: 9/10/2004 1:01:25 PM EDT
I posted this at http://www.gunco.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1870

and http://www2.swiftvets.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=8732

I do this for those that have not read the book or will not. Maybe someone will go buy it after you read my take. Flame me if you will, but I think it's important.

Admin: Move this or delete if I have put it in the wrong place.

My analysis,

Unless you've been living in a hole or coma you have probably heard of the Swift Boat vets for truth and their book "Unfit for Command"

I read the book in the last 2 days as I felt it was important to know why 250 or so vets would stand up and send Kerry a letter as they did. I wanted to know what the media isn't saying about the book. Too often in the interviews with the vets it's too short and they only focus on the fact he wrote himself up for medals even though the vets are trying to get to the 1971 senate testimony that angers so many.

Well, I read the book and I'm hopping mad right now! This man (Kerry) has to big one of the biggest self promoting Communist pieces of shit to ever come down the pike. I say this with no reservation either as I do believe these men would not stand on their message if they didn't mean it due to the fact that they are risking their reputations.

I will sum up what I learned that the media is not covering for you guys that cannot buy the book or don't like to read.

1. Kerry was anti-war before he went and seemed to go only make a name and promote himself for later on.

2. He was a lousy officer and many of the other boat commanders refused to go on missions with him due to this. He was shuffled from one unit to another because of these things too.

3. He disobeyed orders often and admits in his book "Tour of duty" that he took his boat to Saigon for fun after a patrol which was off limits.

4. He once almost got his crew in bad stuff because he went up the wrong canal while looking for the way to the Bob Hope USO show he was not supposed to go to. The canal was a known VC ambush area.

5. He often fired on Vietnamese without warning in free fire zones even when he wasn't being threatened.

6. He falsified after action reports and often ran when his boat was fired upon.

7. He wrote himself up for medals even after his CO said no.

8. He lied about his big sliver star incident and who the real heroes of that day were.

9. He was asked to leave after the he had 3 purple hearts and could by his fellow officers.

10. His purple hearts were all cuts and bruises (not what real purple hearts are given for) and he never spent a day in the hospital for any of them. Some were self inflicted also.

11. He testified that he saw attocities which he did not except the ones he committed. He killed cattle and burned a village without any orders and shocked his peers while on a patrol.

12. Many of the men in VVAW were frauds and found to be frauds back then by the media. His testimony was said to be spur of the moment, but it turns out he had a pro speech writer and Ted Kennedy was his big supporter.

13. Some of the men in VVAW were also in the Communist party and worked with Communist.

14. The KGB officer who was in charge of anti-American activities at the time has said that Kerry's testimony is straight out of the handbook they had published to help Communist here in American. The KGB officer said they wanted to capitalize on the attrocity stuff to make the war unpopular. He said he never met Kerry, but he did know some of the radicals that Kerry knew and worked with.

15. He went to Paris to talk with North Viet Nam leaders while he was still a Naval officer. (Treason)

16. He was at the KC meeting of the VVAW where they discussed assassinating senators who were pro war and taking over the capitol uses techniques learned from special forces in Nam.

17. POW's say that they heard his testimony and saw his pictures while in cutody of the North Viet Nam army. They were tortured even more because of his activism.

18. He has consistantly worked against bills and resolutions that are not in Vietnam's favor while in the senate.

19. He has used his service to get elected throughout all his campaigns and he did not throw away his medals away as he was supposed to have done.

20. When he found that being a counter culture hippy type wouldn't get him elected he decided to embrace his war hero status.

21. Because of Kerry the POW's were declared all dead in the 80's by a senate resolution. Something very unpopular with vets and familys of POW's.

22. Clinton used Kerry to help normalize relations with VietNam after Clinton was elected by taking away the barriers of trade and the human rights resolutions.

I could go on here with more, but I think these are major points that show the man is a self serving hypocrite that even for a politician is high.

The number one thing I took away from the book is this:

In my own opinion this man is a Communist operator or sympathizer if there ever was one. One gets a sense from the book that he either doesn't care about people who are or were oppressed by Communism or he is truley a Commie.

If only 50% of what these guys say is true then he is still dangerous and should not be Presidaent. It's very upsetting to think that these people can pull the wool over people in this day and age. I'm sicked by it.

Please take my review as opinion since one needs to read the book themselves for a complete picture and analysis.
Link Posted: 9/10/2004 8:56:08 PM EDT
Big Bump
Link Posted: 9/10/2004 9:02:39 PM EDT
Thanks for posting the claims made against him one by one.

Link Posted: 9/11/2004 5:08:27 AM EDT
BTT...thanks for posting. Thought about reading this one, but my book line is already too long on prospective reads.

Link Posted: 9/11/2004 6:16:49 AM EDT
hanoi john must be stopped!!
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 6:20:46 AM EDT
Thank you.
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 6:21:10 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/11/2004 6:22:16 AM EDT by pale_pony]
His candidacy in this election is an insult to every veteran who ever served in any war fought for the US since colonization.

I'd rather have voted for a draft dodger like Klinton than a self-serving traitor like Skerry.
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 6:22:04 AM EDT

This guy is like a real life Manchurian candidate.

Link Posted: 9/11/2004 6:22:31 AM EDT

Originally Posted By pale_pony:
His candidacy in this election is an insult to every veteran who ever served in any war fought for the US since colonization.

Congratulations on posting the understatement of the year....

You don't want to know what I think of Kerry after having read UTC.....
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 6:25:36 AM EDT
Thanks for the review.
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 6:28:10 AM EDT
Good review. I'm halfway through the book now and everything I've read is in line with what you've written. Here is a particularly damning quote from page 76:

A joke circulated among Swiftees was that Kerry left Vietnam early not because he received three Purple Hearts, but because he had recorded enough film of himself to take home for his planned political campaigns.
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 6:45:12 AM EDT
what a first class POS!
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 6:46:59 AM EDT
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