The modern progressive liberal stance on Israel is that they hate the Zionists scum for picking on the poor Palestinians.

Why do the progressives of the West in Europe and North America hate Israel so much?  It all comes down to self loathing and the irrational leftist hatred of the right to self defense.  They see a mostly white and very successful country surrounded by poor brown people, and using their liberal logic, conclude that those successful whites must have obtained their success by oppressing the poor brown people surrounding them in some way.  Never mind the surrounding people's penchant for ignorance and dangerous medieval dogma.  Israel obviously has a very strong military and has used it quite successfully to defend themselves in the past and currently.  Well the left's stance on Trayvon Martin and Castle Doctrine and Stand Your Ground laws betray their opinions on the natural right of self defense.  They believe that defending yourself with lethal force makes you a caveman unfit for civilized society, never mind the civility of those attacking you.  The modern liberals' world view is one of naivety, myopia, self loathing, and willful ignorance, leading to some truly bizarre conclusions.

The hate the Arab world has towards Israel can be explained through simple demagoguery.  Much of the Arab world is filled with an angry populace living in squalid conditions, with limited employment opportunities, and under a despotic government.  Those despotic governments obviously would prefer to not have that same anger directed at them.  So what do they do?  Why call upon the world's oldest scapegoat of course, the Jews.  Generations of Palestinians and other Arabs have been taught from birth to believe that those nasty Zionist Jews are responsible for all their troubles in life instead of their own medieval culture or incompetent leaders.  The Arab world then takes up the false position of supporting the Palestinians against the Zionist usurpers, even though the average Arab state hardly does much at all to really improve the situation for those living in the Palestinian territories.

The Israeli Jews, like countless numbers of their ancestors, find themselves on the receiving end of an unfortunate hatred-of-convenience that shows no sign in letting up anytime soon.

Liberals are effectively dumb as a box of rocks.  Their opinions will almost always be wrong.

Stupid sub-humans believe stupid, incorrect things.

Why, as an American, do you feel an unhealthy and unnatural need to defend Israel?

As good as any other explanation I guess.  I really haven't had any exposure to really "Jewish" people ––the kinds that actually practice what they preach.  One of the few times was working with a little anxious kid in a private Jewish School.  I was observing him in class, a religion class, and the teacher was talking about how much smarter and wiley the Jewish woman was (I think during the Babylonian captivity), Sarah (hell I don'y know)––and how stupid their captors were.  I could help but think "shit, if the Jews were so fucking smart, why weren't the Babylonians their slaves?"      

But tell us how you feel...

israel seems to more closely reflect western ideals. that is why is support them.

The foreign policy portion of George Washington's Farewell Address:









Yeah, TL:DR, the Sooners are playing the Mountaineers.

Read the Bible.

Jews are God's people and hated

David and Goliath, role reversal

Urbanite Jews in the West are generally raging leftists.

except in this case david and his cohorts have been trolling goliath for decades

Israel is a socialist country.

Thank you for being first, as the 2nd post is directly related to your subject matter.





 

So is the US.

So the socialists hate the Jews again, huh?

Where have I heard this before and how did it play out??

You're in good company, socialists. Stay classy now.

We are not nearly as socialist as Israel

Nice try though

I still remember the Liberty. I am not against them, but not for them either.

You're getting there.

"Pin The Blame On The Jews."

"Socialists" isn't the first thing most historians would label the Nazis.  It's an extreme oversimplification to equate Nazism to socialism.  "Socialist" was in the name, but that doesn't mean anything.

Actually it does. Socialism was an integral part of Nazi ideology.

The difference between National Socialism and regular Socialism is that the latter is internationalist while the Nazis are the opposite.

This thread is already off the rails...

Have Jewish people done anything personally wrong to any of y'all?

There's a good percentage of Arfcom that dislikes Jews as well.  I hope someone status a Catholic thread soon, all these Jewish threads are getting boring.

The hate for Israel is a religious issue for the muslims, they tend to spread lots of propaganda against Israel all over the world, and the stupid fools believe most of the islamic lies and propaganda.
The main question should be how much of threat islam is to the world, including it's own followers, and how to deal with it. That is the root of the problem, and if unchecked it WILL lead to WWIII.

My cousin stole my copy of Zelda when I was 9.

What's all ths freedom stuff anyway?

hhhmmmmm.....Jews...muzzies.....Jews....muzzies.  I am going with the Jews.

That's not even the worst of it, he left me a bullshit copy of Double Dragon, that didn't even work, in the Zelda case.

The izzys give us some of our best Mid East intel (as long as it suits them of course!).

As for the Arab hate, it ain't just demagoguery, there's the fact the izzys chased the pals out of Palestine and kicked their asses in just about every war.

Did ya make sure to blow in the cartridge?

And did the trick where I  pushed it in to console and then pull out a bit so that it "clicked" when I pushed out down.

Well...did what ya could


Now let's get back to our original program
Locked in for all Jew haters...

They're stealing all the awards for disease cures, hard science, Nobel Prizes, etc from hardworking Palestinians and other deserving people throughout the world.

That would merely be a reflection of the fact that those who do have probably already moved there.

That and the massive numbers of Muslim hooligans you seem to have now.

They Value Freedom and have the balls to do what it takes to defend themselves

Sadly they put the USA to shame in that aspect

Only if you believe in "Palestinians."

My goddamn wife is always leaving the cap off the toothpaste tube. Really burns my ass.





 

Of course; that's why they are in London.

White and Brown people? That's your explanation?

That is why they are there and not in Israel.  DUH!!



 

not at all, but they haven't done jack shit for me either except collect a portion of my tax dollars yearly then ask for more money and donations.

Three reasons

1. They are Christians/Gods people

2. They are not Hadjis

3. It pisses off Liberals

The day we turn our back on Israel is the day our country is more doomed than it already is.

Free

I don't hate Israel but having been there and having seen how the Palestinians are treated over there much like the blacks here were treated in the '50s, I understand why the Palestinians can be angry at them.    

Glad I only visited and don't live there.

This thread has inspired me to break out one of my favorite old T-shirts. Think I'll wear this tomorrow.

This.

There is absolutely no need for the US to be involved in the security of Israel.

We don't need that kind of interventionism.