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Posted: 8/25/2004 12:15:50 PM EST
I decided to put some additional life insurance on myself recently and had to have one of the minor physical exams included where some blood was drawn. The underwriter called me to tell me that I'd been approved, but wasn't eligible for the BEST rate because my cholesterol is TOO LOW (28 HDL, 128 LDL, 156 overall). And yeah, I eat lots of fried shit and plenty of gut bombs.

Is there anything bad from LOW cholesterol?
Link Posted: 8/25/2004 12:17:59 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/25/2004 12:24:23 PM EST by wedge1082]
Let's go and swap some of our blood togeter. That should even both of us out.

edit to add - New blood brother.
Link Posted: 8/25/2004 12:18:29 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/25/2004 12:20:22 PM EST
Your HDL is too low, this is the part of cholesterol that protects your arteries and keeps them clear.

www.americanheart.org/presenter.jhtml?identifier=183
Link Posted: 8/25/2004 12:24:09 PM EST

Originally Posted By hapjack:
Your HDL is too low, this is the part of cholesterol that protects your arteries and keeps them clear.

www.americanheart.org/presenter.jhtml?identifier=183


Yeah, but my LDL is pretty damned low, too. The American Heart Association says I need to be concerned with the LDL level over everything else.
Link Posted: 8/25/2004 12:25:02 PM EST
Try eating a stick of butter on the way to work in the morning.
Link Posted: 8/25/2004 12:28:19 PM EST

Originally Posted By gardenWeasel:
Try eating a stick of butter on the way to work in the morning.



Homer: "Now butter that bacon, boy!"
Bart: "But dad, my heart hurts."
Homer: "Butter it!" (shaking fist in air)
Link Posted: 8/25/2004 12:30:21 PM EST
Cholesterol ratio
Total blood cholesterol is the most common measurement of blood cholesterol. It's the number you normally receive as test results. Cholesterol is measured in milligrams per deciliter of blood (mg/dL). Knowing your total blood cholesterol level is an important first step in determining your risk for heart disease. However, a critical second step is knowing your HDL or "good" cholesterol level.

Some physicians and cholesterol technicians use the ratio of total cholesterol to HDL cholesterol in place of the total blood cholesterol. The American Heart Association recommends that the absolute numbers for total blood cholesterol and HDL cholesterol levels be used. They're more useful to the physician than the cholesterol ratio in determining the appropriate treatment for patients.

The ratio is obtained by dividing the HDL cholesterol level into the total cholesterol. For example, if a person has a total cholesterol of 200 mg/dL and an HDL cholesterol level of 50 mg/dL, the ratio would be stated as 4:1. The goal is to keep the ratio below 5:1; the optimum ratio is 3.5:1.



156 - 28 = 5.5 for a ratio of 5.5 :1
Link Posted: 8/25/2004 12:31:03 PM EST

Originally Posted By Just_Some_Guy:

Yeah, but my LDL is pretty damned low, too. The American Heart Association says I need to be concerned with the LDL level over everything else.



yeah tell that to my friend's dead marathon running father. without the good cholestoral the smallest bit of bad can create a clog very easily and kill you dead.
Link Posted: 8/25/2004 12:38:34 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/25/2004 12:45:30 PM EST by EagleArmsHBAR]
Your ratio of HDL to Total is too high. The ratio is total/hdl.
ratio should be 4.1 or less for super ins rating and 4.1-4.6 for mid rating and 4.6 and up for standard rating
Link Posted: 8/25/2004 2:55:24 PM EST
CHRIST!!! I guess I'd be out, at my last physical, my cholesterol was 89!!! Yeah 89 not 890. WTF!!! Too low, I've never heard of such a thing.
Link Posted: 8/25/2004 3:00:09 PM EST
My total was 117 last week.
Link Posted: 8/25/2004 3:29:14 PM EST
Okay, so what's a good way of increasing my HDL?
Link Posted: 8/25/2004 8:29:54 PM EST

Originally Posted By Just_Some_Guy:
Okay, so what's a good way of increasing my HDL?


YMMV, but exercise works for me.
Link Posted: 8/26/2004 6:04:14 AM EST

Originally Posted By Mordak:
CHRIST!!! I guess I'd be out, at my last physical, my cholesterol was 89!!! Yeah 89 not 890. WTF!!! Too low, I've never heard of such a thing.



Your total cholesterol is 89? Are you sure?
Link Posted: 8/26/2004 6:46:49 AM EST
Sounds pretty damn good to me, JSG. Sure nothing to worry about.

Excercise....
don't smoke
wear your seatbelt
multivitamin daily

Enjoy life

Link Posted: 8/26/2004 6:56:27 AM EST
the reason is obvious...Its so they can blame you untimely passing on SOMETHING and charge you double until you do. They will probably put you in a high risk group.
Link Posted: 8/26/2004 7:00:11 AM EST

Originally Posted By rkbar15:

Originally Posted By Mordak:CHRIST!!! I guess I'd be out, at my last physical, my cholesterol was 89!!! Yeah 89 not 890. WTF!!! Too low, I've never heard of such a thing.


Your total cholesterol is 89? Are you sure?




why not? In the last 3 years, mine has varied from 90-100 and it's been lower in the past.
Link Posted: 8/26/2004 7:07:13 AM EST

Originally Posted By gardenWeasel:
Try eating a stick of butter on the way to work in the morning.



[Homer]Butter your bacon, boy![/Homer]
Link Posted: 8/26/2004 7:09:08 AM EST

Originally Posted By cduarte:

Originally Posted By rkbar15:

Originally Posted By Mordak:CHRIST!!! I guess I'd be out, at my last physical, my cholesterol was 89!!! Yeah 89 not 890. WTF!!! Too low, I've never heard of such a thing.


Your total cholesterol is 89? Are you sure?




why not? In the last 3 years, mine has varied from 90-100 and it's been lower in the past.



A total cholesterol lower then 100 is unusually low. What is your breakdown of TC, HDL, LDL and triglycerides. The TC really means very little. There are several ratios that are useful in defining risk for CAD.
Link Posted: 8/26/2004 7:10:44 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/26/2004 7:15:01 AM EST by billclo]

Originally Posted By Just_Some_Guy:
Okay, so what's a good way of increasing my HDL?



I have this very same problem. Total cholesterol of 173, but HDL was 34. Should be at least 40, preferably over 50.

As for improving it, I did some Google searches, and found that I need to do the following:

Much more exercise
Lose some weight (10-15 lbs)
avoid partially hydrogenated oils (very hard to do, by the way)
use olive/canola oil in food/cooking
eat black walnuts
avoid smoking
INCREASE alcohol intake to 1 or 2 drinks a day (may have other health effects though)
get more fiber in your diet

Read here, or Goodle "reducing HDL levels" heartdisease.about.com/cs/cholesterol/a/raiseHDL.htm

Good luck.
Link Posted: 8/26/2004 4:18:25 PM EST

Originally Posted By rkbar15:

Originally Posted By cduarte:

Originally Posted By rkbar15:

Originally Posted By Mordak:CHRIST!!! I guess I'd be out, at my last physical, my cholesterol was 89!!! Yeah 89 not 890. WTF!!! Too low, I've never heard of such a thing.


Your total cholesterol is 89? Are you sure?




why not? In the last 3 years, mine has varied from 90-100 and it's been lower in the past.



A total cholesterol lower then 100 is unusually low. What is your breakdown of TC, HDL, LDL and triglycerides. The TC really means very little. There are several ratios that are useful in defining risk for CAD.



I'll have to ask my doc for specifics, but according to him my ratios are very healthy. I do remember that when I got home from Africa in late '93, it was ~70 or so, and still with proper ratios. It's my understanding that it's a genetic trait, which I most likely inherited from my maternal grandfather.
Link Posted: 8/26/2004 4:31:57 PM EST

YMMV, but exercise works for me.

Not for me. After getting back into doing a pretty hard work-out twice a week again, my HDL dropped from 16 to 12. My total HDL+LDL is now only 60!z
Link Posted: 8/26/2004 4:49:22 PM EST
I haven't looked into alcohol alone, but red wine in particular has been shown to raise HDL.
Exercise too.
tony
Link Posted: 8/26/2004 5:03:39 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/26/2004 5:03:57 PM EST by MaverickMkii]

Originally Posted By 199:

Originally Posted By Just_Some_Guy:
Okay, so what's a good way of increasing my HDL?


YMMV, but exercise works for me.



+1 (especially running)
Link Posted: 8/26/2004 5:15:05 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/27/2004 2:13:38 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/27/2004 2:14:06 AM EST by Mordak]

Originally Posted By rkbar15:

Originally Posted By cduarte:

Originally Posted By rkbar15:

Originally Posted By Mordak:CHRIST!!! I guess I'd be out, at my last physical, my cholesterol was 89!!! Yeah 89 not 890. WTF!!! Too low, I've never heard of such a thing.


Your total cholesterol is 89? Are you sure?




why not? In the last 3 years, mine has varied from 90-100 and it's been lower in the past.



A total cholesterol lower then 100 is unusually low. What is your breakdown of TC, HDL, LDL and triglycerides. The TC really means very little. There are several ratios that are useful in defining risk for CAD.



The only other number I remember without digging my results up was the triglycerides and that was 85. I'm not sure if my Doctor actually broke down the others individually. My triglycerides used to be about 285 and I had and extra 50 lbs. on me then. After losing the weight, that's when I saw a big drop in my triglyceride number.
Link Posted: 8/27/2004 4:15:06 AM EST

Originally Posted By Just_Some_Guy:
Okay, so what's a good way of increasing my HDL?



I was told to increase the use of Olive Oil in cooking and eat more nuts (like cashews).
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