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Posted: 9/20/2004 12:10:22 PM EST
The gay sushi thread made me hungry so I made a sandwich. While assembling this manly masterpiece I noticed that there was a big spot of black mold on the roll. I just tore it off and continued on my merry way. Great sandwich!

Got to thinking. Is bread mold bad for you?
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 12:12:27 PM EST
Nah! People used to eat it all the time during the middle ages, and they turned out OK.



Oh wait...

Nevermind.

Link Posted: 9/20/2004 12:13:53 PM EST
wouldn't think so isn't penicillin basically mold
If you have a rash some place private that goes away this week ya know it was the bread
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 12:15:06 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/20/2004 12:15:37 PM EST by operatorerror]
Yeah, I once read about people eating moldy grain and hallucinating. Ergot, I think was the name of the compound. Caused quite a problem in some towns.

Like mass murder.
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 12:18:11 PM EST
thats only on rye bread...
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 12:20:28 PM EST

Originally Posted By operatorerror:
Yeah, I once read about people eating moldy grain and hallucinating.



I thought it was mushrooms.
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 12:21:08 PM EST

Originally Posted By Witch_Doctor:

Originally Posted By operatorerror:
Yeah, I once read about people eating moldy grain and hallucinating.



I thought it was mushrooms.



They were growing on the bread.
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 12:24:23 PM EST
Rye? Ergot? Man, that explains alot of what I was seeing after my last Rueben.
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 12:24:58 PM EST
I've heard that mold on bread is as harmless as penicillin.....which is to say....it's harmless unless you're allergic
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 12:26:24 PM EST
AS long as the cheese was moldy also your ok.
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 12:33:27 PM EST

Originally Posted By operatorerror:
Yeah, I once read about people eating moldy grain and hallucinating. Ergot, I think was the name of the compound. Caused quite a problem in some towns.

Like mass murder.



Ergotamine Tartarate, IIRC. Grows on rye and causes hallucinations. We busted a bunch of hippies in Stillwater about 15 years ago who were making the stuff in house over at 8th & Hester. They started off with what amounted to a "sour dough" recipe and then infected the "starter" with psillicybin mushroom spores. They sold the stuff canned in Kerr mason jars just like home preserves. The stuff looked and smelled like something that was growing in the back of your refrigerator. We didn't even know what the stuff was until someone from OBNDD recognized it and identified it. It was supposed to have about the same high as mushrooms but in a concentrated form with twice the kick.

The agent from OBNDD said that the stuff also occurred naturally and was documented as early as 500 BC when a village's grain stores would become moldy and the whole damn village would have visions. They called it St Elmo's Fire or some other nonsense as the primitive villagers thought that it was God talking to all of them at once.
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 12:35:55 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 12:37:57 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 12:42:48 PM EST
Generally speaking, if you can stomach it, you can stomach it. Shouldn't kill you too bad. Please post tomorrow and let us know. Do NOT post pics if it's bad, particularly if the badness involves the pooper.
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 12:44:15 PM EST
bread good, moldy bread not so good. Ergot precursor chemical to LSD
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 12:52:10 PM EST
Pale Pony...are you in Stillwater now? The wife and I are from there. Went to high school and college there. Her brother retired from The Stillwater Fire Department 2 years ago, and now works for the Payne County Sherriffs office. Most of our family and old friends are in the Stillwater area...Andrew
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 1:00:14 PM EST
I was born and grew up in Stillwater. Both of my folks taught at OSU for years.

Small world...
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 1:12:26 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/20/2004 1:13:42 PM EST by pale_pony]

Originally Posted By andrew:
Pale Pony...are you in Stillwater now? The wife and I are from there. Went to high school and college there. Her brother retired from The Stillwater Fire Department 2 years ago, and now works for the Payne County Sherriffs office. Most of our family and old friends are in the Stillwater area...Andrew



I left there beack in 1987, a long time ago, back before their DA went to prison

I hear 'ol Carl Hiner is still a blowin' and a goin' over at the sheriff's office!

edited to add: I could sure do with a REAL Hideaway Pizza
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 1:14:43 PM EST
wow.

A reunion hijack.

LOL!
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 1:18:48 PM EST

Originally Posted By operatorerror:
Yeah, I once read about people eating moldy grain and hallucinating. Ergot, I think was the name of the compound. Caused quite a problem in some towns.

Like mass murder.



The guy who discovered LSD was investigating the chemical properties of ergot and absorbed some through his skin.
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 3:15:48 PM EST
Hideaway Pizza Rules the Universe, thats for sure!!
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 3:50:28 PM EST

Originally Posted By captainpooby:

Originally Posted By operatorerror:
Yeah, I once read about people eating moldy grain and hallucinating. Ergot, I think was the name of the compound. Caused quite a problem in some towns.

Like mass murder.



The guy who discovered LSD was investigating the chemical properties of ergot and absorbed some through his skin.



Hes a witch!
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 6:58:06 PM EST
Need some sour cream on that sandwich?



Link Posted: 9/20/2004 6:59:31 PM EST

Originally Posted By Phil_in_Seattle:
Need some sour cream on that sandwich?

pic5.picturetrail.com/VOL77/858902/5228703/67364786.jpg




Looks kinda like camo.
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 7:58:58 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/20/2004 8:00:41 PM EST by Ustulina]
Not to be a goof, but you are mixing up ergot poisoning with psilocybin mushrooms. They are not the same fungi.

Ergotin is produced by Claviceps purpurea, which grows on damp rye.

Psilocybin mushrooms are Agarics that are "coprophilous," that is they grow on shit.

If your hippies were trying to grow Psilocybe on "sourdough" they may have gotten fungus, but it likely wasn't 'shrooms. You can grow them on wood chips, but I think bread dough is unlikely, though one never knows with fungi...

Yes, they both can cause hallucinations, but I would say that Claviceps is probably more potent in this regard.

Also, bread mold is generally a Penicillium, which is again different.

While Penicilliums are not terribly hazardous, certain species of Aspergillus are very
nasty and can produce potent carcinogens.

My advice-- if it's funky, thow it out. Basically with fungi, you just never know. Food is cheap. Your liver is not.


Link Posted: 9/20/2004 8:01:40 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/20/2004 8:01:57 PM EST by Lockedon]

Originally Posted By Phil_in_Seattle:
Need some sour cream on that sandwich?

pic5.picturetrail.com/VOL77/858902/5228703/67364786.jpg





ARRGGG you bastard, thanks alot for grossing the shit out of me for the next week
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 8:32:57 PM EST

Originally Posted By Lockedon:

Originally Posted By Phil_in_Seattle:
Need some sour cream on that sandwich?

pic5.picturetrail.com/VOL77/858902/5228703/67364786.jpg





ARRGGG you bastard, thanks alot for grossing the shit out of me for the next week




Now imagine how it smelled! That was worse than it looks!

Link Posted: 9/20/2004 8:35:53 PM EST
I have eaten and I know several people who have eaten moldy food, we are all still alive.
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 8:40:39 PM EST
one day while really hungry i remembered we had pumpernikel bread so i was like that sounds goood
so i pick up the half loaf we had left and took a big bite out of it ughhhhhhhhhhhh
the mold had blended in with the dark bread camouflaged by the blackness of the bread
not something i care for to happen again the entire inside was mold
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