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Posted: 1/9/2015 9:37:23 AM EST
[Last Edit: 1/14/2015 2:41:17 PM EST by SAE]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZoHEVYbIq4

Looks like a breakthrough for the exclusion of God is just right around the corner!!
About time!
Link Posted: 1/9/2015 9:39:30 AM EST
Isn't this at least a few years old?

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Well, yall are welcome to explain to God why you don't need him when you stand before Him... I for one ain't taking the chance!

- Clint
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Right with you brother.

I don't know why atheists need to stamp out religion.
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Do you have something along these lines of scientific study which are much more recent?
Jim
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Originally Posted By macman37:


Right with you brother.

I don't know why atheists need to stamp out religion.
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Originally Posted By Alaskacajun:
Well, yall are welcome to explain to God why you don't need him when you stand before Him... I for one ain't taking the chance!

- Clint


Right with you brother.

I don't know why atheists need to stamp out religion.


Not to put too fine a point on it, but atheists are not necessarily anti-theists.
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Originally Posted By SAE:


Do you have something along these lines of scientific study which are much more recent?
Jim
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Originally Posted By Squatch:
Isn't this at least a few years old?



Do you have something along these lines of scientific study which are much more recent?
Jim


Really?

I can say confidently that EVERY scientific study ever conducted in the history of mankind has failed to provide evidence for the existence of God.

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Amen.
Link Posted: 1/9/2015 9:51:35 AM EST
Wasn't he getting his Pedo on with Bill Clinton at the sex slave house?
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Originally Posted By macman37:


Right with you brother.

I don't know why atheists need to stamp out religion.
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Originally Posted By macman37:
Originally Posted By Alaskacajun:
Well, yall are welcome to explain to God why you don't need him when you stand before Him... I for one ain't taking the chance!

- Clint


Right with you brother.

I don't know why atheists need to stamp out religion.



I can only speak for myself, but the only thing that I'd like to see stamped out is the need to be concerned about what someone else believes.

I think it's Bama's sigline ...... you do your thing and I'll do mine.
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Who, Stephen Hawking?
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Originally Posted By Alaskacajun:
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so your belief is only because you might suffer for not believing?

doesn't sound like genuine belief and worshipping with a glad heart to me.
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Originally Posted By Squatch:


Not to put too fine a point on it, but atheists are not necessarily anti-theists.
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Originally Posted By Squatch:
Originally Posted By macman37:
Originally Posted By Alaskacajun:
Well, yall are welcome to explain to God why you don't need him when you stand before Him... I for one ain't taking the chance!

- Clint


Right with you brother.

I don't know why atheists need to stamp out religion.


Not to put too fine a point on it, but atheists are not necessarily anti-theists.


Evangelical atheists and theocratic atheists are just two modern permutations of secular antiintellectualism.

It has very little to do with atheism; that's just a convenient excuse.


Man has always desired to control what other people think. It's never changed, and it never will.
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He says that science and the "Big Bang" can explain the creation of the universe. And who exactly made the matter for the Big Bang? For someone so "smart" he is exceptionally stupid.
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so your belief is only because you might suffer for not believing?
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Originally Posted By maggiethecat:
Originally Posted By Alaskacajun:
Well, yall are welcome to explain to God why you don't need him when you stand before Him... I for one ain't taking the chance!

- Clint


so your belief is only because you might suffer for not believing?


Could you explain this in a little more detail please?
Thanks.
Link Posted: 1/9/2015 9:56:40 AM EST
OP aren't you the mod in the religion subforum?

Feels like you're trolling.
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Could you explain this in a little more detail please?
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Originally Posted By maggiethecat:
Originally Posted By Alaskacajun:
Well, yall are welcome to explain to God why you don't need him when you stand before Him... I for one ain't taking the chance!

- Clint


so your belief is only because you might suffer for not believing?


Could you explain this in a little more detail please?
Thanks.

I can hear the thumping already
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Originally Posted By James23:



I can only speak for myself, but the only thing that I'd like to see stamped out is the need to be concerned about what someone else believes.

I think it's Bama's sigline ...... you do your thing and I'll do mine.
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Originally Posted By James23:
Originally Posted By macman37:
Originally Posted By Alaskacajun:
Well, yall are welcome to explain to God why you don't need him when you stand before Him... I for one ain't taking the chance!

- Clint


Right with you brother.

I don't know why atheists need to stamp out religion.



I can only speak for myself, but the only thing that I'd like to see stamped out is the need to be concerned about what someone else believes.

I think it's Bama's sigline ...... you do your thing and I'll do mine.


Oh I'm not, but we are in an opinion forum on a majority opinion site, so it's fair to opine on such matters.
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Originally Posted By cubezombie:
OP aren't you the mod in the religion subforum?

Feels like you're trolling.
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I've never been a Mod.
And I don't post over there anymore!
You?
Link Posted: 1/9/2015 9:59:32 AM EST
If for the inevitable shitstorm


I'm a Christian and I'm proud of my beliefs.

I don't look down or treat others differently if they don't believe the same as me. I also do not try to change their beliefs.

So I don't know why people have to try to say that I'm wrong, act intellectually superior to me, or try to convince me that I'm wrong because they don't believe in God.
Link Posted: 1/9/2015 10:01:45 AM EST
Originally Posted By SAE:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZoHEVYbIq4

Looks like a breakthrough for the exclusion of God is just right around the corner!!
About time!
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How many breakthroughs that were "just around the corner" never happened. LMAO
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Originally Posted By SAE:

I've never been a Mod.
And I don't post over there anymore!
You?
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Originally Posted By cubezombie:
OP aren't you the mod in the religion subforum?

Feels like you're trolling.

I've never been a Mod.
And I don't post over there anymore!
You?


Interesting. Why don't you post there anymore?
Link Posted: 1/9/2015 10:03:21 AM EST
Let's dump him out of his chair and see who he prays to.
Link Posted: 1/9/2015 10:03:35 AM EST
[Last Edit: 1/9/2015 10:07:36 AM EST by juslearnin]
GOD: "No need for Stephen Hawking... "


Do you think his ALS has been the underlying cause for his hatred of God?



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Really?

I can say confidently that EVERY scientific study ever conducted in the history of mankind has failed to provide evidence for the existence of God.

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Originally Posted By SAE:
Originally Posted By Squatch:
Isn't this at least a few years old?



Do you have something along these lines of scientific study which are much more recent?
Jim


Really?

I can say confidently that EVERY scientific study ever conducted in the history of mankind has failed to provide evidence for the existence of God.



(Agnostic here)
Hmm, well any that are popular and published anyway. I seem to recall one a while back about randomness vs. order with chaos theory etc that was pretty convincing for a 'higher intelligence'
Personally, I think atheists are short sighted for not thinking that a society exists (like ourselves in a thousand or so years) that have overcome disease and mortality, with such intelligence of the physical laws of the universe that they can create suns, worlds, etc.
If you dont' die and can create stuff, aren't you a "God" ?
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"No need" <> "Doesn't exist"

And..... Is Mr. Hawking actually claiming to have proved a negative?




He should stick to physics.
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Originally Posted By macman37:


Right with you brother.

I don't know why atheists need to stamp out religion.
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Originally Posted By Alaskacajun:
Well, yall are welcome to explain to God why you don't need him when you stand before Him... I for one ain't taking the chance!

- Clint


Right with you brother.

I don't know why atheists need to stamp out religion.


Why does a drunk our a junkie only hang with drunk junkies?

They don't want to be judged by straight folk and viewed as , LOSSERS.
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Originally Posted By SilverSlinger:
He says that science and the "Big Bang" can explain the creation of the universe. And who exactly made the matter for the Big Bang? For someone so "smart" he is exceptionally stupid.
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so, you are saying that a deity, "GOD" created "the matter for the big bang"?

edit for my follow up question: is it possible the "matter for the big bang" always existed?

you cant say god always existed without allowing the possibility that something else always existed also. unless you are saying god self ceated. in which case i'd like to see your reasoning on that.
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Meh, that's his keyboard commando opinion.
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Originally Posted By macman37:


Oh I'm not, but we are in an opinion forum on a majority opinion site, so it's fair to opine on such matters.
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Originally Posted By James23:
Originally Posted By macman37:
Originally Posted By Alaskacajun:
Well, yall are welcome to explain to God why you don't need him when you stand before Him... I for one ain't taking the chance!

- Clint


Right with you brother.

I don't know why atheists need to stamp out religion.



I can only speak for myself, but the only thing that I'd like to see stamped out is the need to be concerned about what someone else believes.

I think it's Bama's sigline ...... you do your thing and I'll do mine.


Oh I'm not, but we are in an opinion forum on a majority opinion site, so it's fair to opine on such matters.



Of course, as we do regularly in the spirit of simple discussion and debate.

My comment was general in general terms.
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Interesting. Why don't you post there anymore?
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Originally Posted By cubezombie:
OP aren't you the mod in the religion subforum?

Feels like you're trolling.

I've never been a Mod.
And I don't post over there anymore!
You?


Interesting. Why don't you post there anymore?


Apparently banned for my non-Christian views in the end.
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Originally Posted By macman37:


Right with you brother.

I don't know why atheists need to stamp out religion.
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Originally Posted By macman37:
Originally Posted By Alaskacajun:
Well, yall are welcome to explain to God why you don't need him when you stand before Him... I for one ain't taking the chance!

- Clint


Right with you brother.

I don't know why atheists need to stamp out religion.

As has been said many times, atheists don't, anti-theists seem to want to though.


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Originally Posted By maggiethecat:


so your belief is only because you might suffer for not believing?

doesn't sound like genuine belief and worshipping with a glad heart to me.
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Originally Posted By maggiethecat:
Originally Posted By Alaskacajun:
Well, yall are welcome to explain to God why you don't need him when you stand before Him... I for one ain't taking the chance!

- Clint


so your belief is only because you might suffer for not believing?

doesn't sound like genuine belief and worshipping with a glad heart to me.


It was when I was a kid... I walked away from "believing" because it was too hard living by the Law... Then I discovered Jesus, and Grace... And now I'm just thankful for what He did for me on the cross, and am able to live my life free of the condemnation that I used to feel all the time trying to do it on my own!

- Clint
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Stephen Hawking isn't going to be standing in front of anyone.
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Hawking: "God did not create the universe."
God: "Enjoy your chair"
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OK, he has a right to his opinion.
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Could you explain this in a little more detail please?
Thanks.
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Originally Posted By maggiethecat:
Originally Posted By Alaskacajun:
Well, yall are welcome to explain to God why you don't need him when you stand before Him... I for one ain't taking the chance!

- Clint


so your belief is only because you might suffer for not believing?


Could you explain this in a little more detail please?
Thanks.


Sure. From the wording, it appears that AlaskaCajun isnt willing to risk explaining to God why Alaskacajun didnt need god. The use of the word risk implies that of the possible consequences, at least one negative exists. It looks to me like Alaskacajun only believes in God due to the possible ramifications.

names used to avoid confusions with "he" and "him"

I'm am NOT saying that is the case, just odd wording to me.
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Originally Posted By macman37:


Right with you brother.

I don't know why atheists need to stamp out religion.
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Originally Posted By macman37:
Originally Posted By Alaskacajun:
Well, yall are welcome to explain to God why you don't need him when you stand before Him... I for one ain't taking the chance!

- Clint


Right with you brother.

I don't know why atheists need to stamp out religion.


They see others receiving great peace and comfort from their faith, while they themselves, are left out, so they want to prevent others from having what they do not themselves have.
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Anybody, much less a man of science, that arrogantly discards the existence of anything, out of arrogance or incomplete research, can't be trusted to flip pancakes or any other honest endeavor.

The word "Irrefutable" comes to mind.

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Really?

I can say confidently that EVERY scientific study ever conducted in the history of mankind has failed to provide evidence for the existence of God.

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Originally Posted By SAE:
Originally Posted By Squatch:
Isn't this at least a few years old?



Do you have something along these lines of scientific study which are much more recent?
Jim


Really?

I can say confidently that EVERY scientific study ever conducted in the history of mankind has failed to provide evidence for the existence of God.



Man using science to prove God? "Science" has been tweeked or manipulated since the dawn of time to try to persuade thinking on way or another, you my friend are looking in the wrong places.

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He says that science and the "Big Bang" can explain the creation of the universe. And who exactly made the matter for the Big Bang? For someone so "smart" he is exceptionally stupid.
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If the matter for the big bang had to be created by "someone", than who created that someone? If you believe, that the "someone" always existed, why can't the matter also have always existed?
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Really?

I can say confidently that EVERY scientific study ever conducted in the history of mankind has failed to provide evidence for the existence of God.


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Originally Posted By SAE:
Originally Posted By Squatch:
Isn't this at least a few years old?



Do you have something along these lines of scientific study which are much more recent?
Jim


Really?

I can say confidently that EVERY scientific study ever conducted in the history of mankind has failed to provide evidence for the existence of God.




People confidently say all sorts of things without actually knowing what they are talking about.

Some of them are even confused about the differences in the meanings of the words "proof" and "evidence".


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So who made God then?
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All these universe books ever really say is in a whole bunch of words is "no one knows".

They are entertaining and I do not pretend to be an expert on the subject, but I have read several and am competent enough to understand the principle hypothesis in them.

I haven't scratched a higher being off my list.
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LOL
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We can create matter just fine in a collider. No reason not to think the universe was created in a similar way by a higher being.

But then who created him and his collider? Ah, the tough question that science cannot answer.

The big bang is an elegant theory about the beginning but it fails to answer what was before the beginning... and it never will.
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So who made God then?
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Originally Posted By SilverSlinger:
He says that science and the "Big Bang" can explain the creation of the universe. And who exactly made the matter for the Big Bang? For someone so "smart" he is exceptionally stupid.


So who made God then?



The book Universe From Nothing explains is as nothing existed so it was the right recipe for something. Which makes sense except when you put time against it. No one can really say what was before.
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Sure. From the wording, it appears that AlaskaCajun isnt willing to risk explaining to God why Alaskacajun didnt need god. The use of the word risk implies that of the possible consequences, at least one negative exists. It looks to me like Alaskacajun only believes in God due to the possible ramifications.

names used to avoid confusions with "he" and "him"

I'm am NOT saying that is the case, just odd wording to me.
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Originally Posted By Alaskacajun:
Well, yall are welcome to explain to God why you don't need him when you stand before Him... I for one ain't taking the chance!

- Clint


so your belief is only because you might suffer for not believing?


Could you explain this in a little more detail please?
Thanks.


Sure. From the wording, it appears that AlaskaCajun isnt willing to risk explaining to God why Alaskacajun didnt need god. The use of the word risk implies that of the possible consequences, at least one negative exists. It looks to me like Alaskacajun only believes in God due to the possible ramifications.

names used to avoid confusions with "he" and "him"

I'm am NOT saying that is the case, just odd wording to me.


A lot of GD believes God is kind of a jerk. As represented in posts such as:

Originally Posted By MikeSearson:
Hawking: "God did not create the universe."
God: "Enjoy your chair"


Nice guy.

Perhaps they're creating God in their own image. Who knows.
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Exactly correct.

The problem, IMO, is when people conclude "no one knows, therefore God."
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If the matter for the big bang had to be created by "someone", than who created that someone? If you believe, that the "someone" always existed, why can't the matter also have always existed?
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Originally Posted By SilverSlinger:
He says that science and the "Big Bang" can explain the creation of the universe. And who exactly made the matter for the Big Bang? For someone so "smart" he is exceptionally stupid.


If the matter for the big bang had to be created by "someone", than who created that someone? If you believe, that the "someone" always existed, why can't the matter also have always existed?



exactly what I've been saying for years. most answer with "just because"

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