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Posted: 8/24/2005 3:48:34 AM EDT
Nothing new here. Article about beating your wife IAW the koran. The irony is the author purports to be a moderate.


I find it unacceptable when some people twist the meaning of a particular verse in the Holy Qur’an — especially the one which permits a husband to beat his disobedient wife. Those who do the twisting must understand that the permission is only given under certain circumstances and that the beating is intended as a remedy for specific situations. It is unfortunate that some well-known and respected Muslim scholars have either willingly or unwillingly joined a campaign seeking to distort the meaning of that particular verse.

In many cases, they have given a different meaning from the one actually intended. The verse — number 34 in Surah IV — reads as follows: “Men are the protectors and maintainers of women because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore, righteous women are devotedly obedient and guard in (the husband’s) absence what Allah would have them guard. And to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first) and (then) refuse to share their beds (and last) beat them (lightly), but if they return to obedience, seek not against them means of annoyance.”

It is quite obvious here that Islam adopts a gradual approach starting with verbal admonishment of the wife, then seeks a period of refraining from conjugal relations and, finally, if the husband finds the situation very serious, he may strike his disobedient wife.

Some scholars have even suggested that the punishment (beating) cited here is not of the physical nature and that what the husband is required to do is stay away from the disobedient wife. In short, they say the husband should leave the house and go to another place. This is not what is actually intended in the verse.

The beating which is only prescribed in the case of disobedient wives is intended to serve as a remedy in an unusual situation. If the husband feels the wife is behaving in a disobedient and rebellious manner, he is required to rectify her attitude — first by kind words, then gentle persuasion and reasoning. Beating as a last resort must never be understood to entail using a stick or any other instrument that would cause pain or injury.

A rebellious woman who is not moved by kind works, persuasion and admonition is a woman of no feeling and must therefore be punished by beating. Psychiatrists tell us of people, including women, for whom a cure lies in beating.

The controversy over the beating of disloyal and rebellious women is part of the campaign against Islam. If beating disobedient wives was advocated by Western scientists, it would have been widely supported by the same people who criticize Islam and special centers would have been set up all over the world to train husbands on how to beat their wives.

Our scholars should focus on explaining to people, especially the young, the real teachings of Islam in order to avoid causing uncertainty and confusion.
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 3:51:51 AM EDT
I guess cutting their clits off is a good way to control them too.
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 4:06:33 AM EDT
There is no such thing as a moderate Islamist.
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 4:32:12 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Jack19:
There is no such thing as a moderate Islamist.

The scary thing is , by ROP standards, this is moderate.
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 4:38:45 AM EDT
paging glockguy40
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 4:45:57 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Seamaster:

Originally Posted By Jack19:
There is no such thing as a moderate Islamist.

The scary thing is , by ROP standards, this is moderate.

Exactly, their moderate position is 1) talk to wife gently 2) reason with her 3) beat her (but not with a stick b/c that would be extreme).
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 5:06:37 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 5:12:59 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Aimless:

Originally Posted By Jack19:
There is no such thing as a moderate Islamist.

Apparently there is also no such thing as a moderate Houstonian --> ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=382181

Link Posted: 8/24/2005 6:30:21 AM EDT
The US Military should sweep into Muslim countries and "liberate" their women's bellydancing potential.
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