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Posted: 9/18/2005 1:12:34 PM EDT
Does anyone else remember a dem talking bad about ANY protesters before this?

Mexican Independence Day parade becomes immigration protest
9/18/2005
News 8 Austin Staff
www.news8austin.com/content/your_news/default.asp?ArID=145722
Temperatures and tempers flared at a parade in downtown Austin on Saturday afternoon.

The Mexican Independence Day parade is an annual event sponsored by Texas United Latino Artists.

But this year, protestors made the parade less about independence and more about immigration. Hundreds showed up to march.

Some groups also protested the Minuteman Project, a civilian organization whose members patrol the United States' border and report illegal immigration to authorities.

"You see, it's a free country. We have the right to say what feel and what we think, but there is a step were it goes beyond saying what we feel and taking guns in our hands and going to the border and intimidating people. That's what we're saying. We will not allow this," Julieta Garibay, who opposes the Minutemen, said.

About 50 people who called themselves Texans for Freedom countered the protest and voiced their support for the Minutemen.

"The Minutemen are doing what our government refuses to do, what they've not been allowed to do. We need to close the borders. If there's a war on terrorism, why are our borders open? If our government is not going to close the borders, that leaves it up to us - the civilians - to do what our government refuses to do," Minuteman supporter Steve Skidmore said.

Department of Public Safety troopers had to separate shouting matches between the two groups, but no arrests were reported.

U.S. Rep. Lloyd Doggett, D-Texas, was also a part of the parade down Congress to the Capitol. He avoided the Texans for Freedom crowd, but later compared the Minutemen’s efforts to the KKK at the rally.

"Some say these Minutemen are new to Texas. That's not really true. It's just that years ago
they used to wear white sheets," he said.


Doggett also said U.S. border patrol officers are capable of securing the borders of the country, and amateur vigilantes who ignore civil rights only hamper law enforcement efforts.
Link Posted: 9/18/2005 1:28:56 PM EDT
Sounds like Dogget is a crap sandwich.
Link Posted: 9/18/2005 1:49:16 PM EDT
I feel bad for the parade organizers
but, I am glad we have another indication
that the rest of the country has noticed the
damage that the illegals are doing to the US
Link Posted: 9/18/2005 1:54:14 PM EDT
FUCK dogget.

He is a typical lifetime elected lib like his hero teddy k. Poor dumb fuckers in his district don't know how to vote for anyone else.
Link Posted: 9/18/2005 1:57:44 PM EDT
Alex Jones lead the counter march.
Link Posted: 9/18/2005 2:00:17 PM EDT

Originally Posted By lippo:
Alex Jones lead the counter march.



which one?

they had the parade
the pro-border control protest
and the anti-pro-border control protest
Link Posted: 9/18/2005 2:05:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/18/2005 2:05:26 PM EDT by Spade]




Doggett also said U.S. border patrol officers are capable of securing the borders of the country, and amateur vigilantes who ignore civil rights only hamper law enforcement efforts.




Apparently he doesn't talk to USBP guys.

Because they say they aren't capable of securing the border. And that it's politicians, not "vigilantes" that hamper them.
Link Posted: 9/18/2005 2:08:22 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Spade:



Doggett also said U.S. border patrol officers are capable of securing the borders of the country, and amateur vigilantes who ignore civil rights only hamper law enforcement efforts.



Apparently he doesn't talk to USBP guys.

Because they say they aren't capable of securing the border. And that it's politicians, not "vigilantes" that hamper them.



It almost sounds like he is quoting bush

our "leaders" seem to be experiencing some confusion over the illegal entry into our country
by foreign invaders and their use of forged\fraudulent documents to conceal their crimes........
Link Posted: 9/18/2005 2:37:04 PM EDT
Looks like the illegals in CA have managed to shut down one of the Minutemen patrols
I wonder if the "counterdemonstrator" that knocked down an innocent bystander was an illegal

Minuteman-Style Border Patrol Is Over in No Time
Organizers call off the event after a scuffle with protesters and a lower turnout than expected. Counterdemonstrators declare victory.

September 18, 2005
By Anna Gorman and Richard Marosi, Times Staff Writers
www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-minutemen18sep18,1,136974.story?coll=la-headlines-california&ctrack=1&cset=true

SAN DIEGO — After touting their plans for months, organizers called off their Minuteman-style patrol of the California-Mexico border this weekend after a minor scuffle with counterdemonstrators and a far lower turnout than expected.

Friends of the Border Patrol, a Chino-based group, had said that hundreds of volunteers, some armed, would patrol the border along a 100-mile stretch from the coast to Imperial County, modeling their effort in part after April's Minuteman Project in Arizona.

Their intention, they said, was to monitor — not apprehend — illegal immigrants and report their presence to the U.S. Border Patrol.

But on Saturday, organizer Andy Ramirez called it off, citing a fear of violence.

He said about 40 volunteers had showed up and, of them, 20 had registered for training at a nearby hotel.

"I can't send them out if somebody is going to try to harm them," Ramirez said.

Pushing and shoving broke out early Saturday after about 20 counterdemonstrators marched into the Scottish Rites Center in San Diego, where Border Watch volunteers had come to register for training, according to witnesses and police. One counterdemonstrator was cited for battery after he allegedly knocked down someone unaffiliated with either group.

Declaring victory, hundreds of counterdemonstrators Saturday evening marched through the streets of Calexico, Calif., with some saying citizen patrols were losing momentum and that they had chased out the few would-be patrollers who bothered to show up.

"It's a disaster," said Enrique Morones, president of the Border Angels, one of the immigrant rights groups that participated in the counter-protest. "The novelty of the minutemen has worn off."

Morones said the low turnout reflected poor organization and the fact that people aren't willing to volunteer for a group of "racist vigilantes."

But Ramirez said the patrollers may regroup and try again next weekend.

The gathering began Friday, when Ramirez and eight others held a news conference at the rusted border fence across from Tijuana.

Even then, they were drowned out by a mariachi band and about 30 jeering counterdemonstrators waving Mexican flags and chanting in Spanish for the "caza migrantes" — migrant hunters — to go home.

The effort was the third in California in the past three months that failed to draw a significant number of volunteers. In Arizona, by contrast, organizers hailed the Minuteman Project as a success because the turnout was greater, media coverage was heavy and illegal crossings, according to the Border Patrol, dropped.

Minuteman-like groups are pressuring federal lawmakers to change immigration laws and bolster enforcement along the border. Border Watch had planned to send the volunteers, including former police officers and Border Patrol agents, to homes and ranches near the border, where they would call the Border Patrol if they spotted border crossers.

"This issue of border security has grown into a national emergency," said Ramirez, who calls his group the "ultimate Neighborhood Watch."

Arizona is the main corridor for illegal immigration into the U.S.; hundreds of thousands are apprehended annually. Illegal activity along California's border has declined significantly in recent years.

Still, the illegal border traffic rankles many on the U.S. side, especially those living in the rugged backcountry east of San Diego.

Donna and Ed Tisdale, who live on a 400-acre ranch about a mile from the border, said they had planned to let Friends of the Border Patrol use their home as an observation post. Illegal migrants and drug smugglers cross their ranch regularly, and the U.S. Border Patrol doesn't have enough agents to stop the flow, said Donna Tisdale.

"This is organized crime at work in our neighborhood. We're desperate for help," she said, adding that the volunteer group would have provided more "eyes and ears in the area."

Tim Whitney, 50, a Chula Vista construction worker who attended the training session, said he was disappointed with the low turnout. "I was hoping for something more, for more Americans."
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