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Posted: 8/30/2004 5:50:58 PM EST
It will be one of the two. Either will probably wipe the floor with her.
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 5:52:35 PM EST
Guliani, guaranteed.
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 5:53:07 PM EST
A guy on TV said this today, and I believe it.

McCain's biggest obstacle is winning the Republican delegates, not the general election.

Rudy can win the delegates easier, and therefore, will probably be the candidate.

Link Posted: 8/30/2004 5:59:12 PM EST
Bill Frist v. hitlary 08
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 6:01:00 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 6:06:23 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 6:10:11 PM EST
Craig/Rice '08 Yeah baby
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 6:11:53 PM EST
.308 BTHP vs. hillary. whoops, did i type that?
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 6:14:43 PM EST
Larry Craig/Bill Frist. Please not Giuliani (anti) or McCain (RINO).
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 6:17:31 PM EST
Neither. Americans have historically chosen thier President, Republican or Democrat, from the Governorships.
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 6:20:26 PM EST

Originally Posted By Aimless:

Originally Posted By -Absolut-:
Guliani, guaranteed.

Nah, too "New York" and too much anti-catholic bias



Giuliani is a Catholic.
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 6:21:55 PM EST
What about Jeb??
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 6:23:35 PM EST

Originally Posted By Ghost-Shooter:
Craig/Rice '08 Yeah baby



Reverse the order and you have just locked up the Republican Party's dominance for the next decade.

Condoleeza Rice is one smart, tough, ballsy conservative. The fact that she's a woman and black will leave the liberals, particularly the black race pimps completely freaked out.

The average, hardworking black Aemrican will wake up from his Dumbocrat-induced stupor and realize that conservatives DO believe in, and practice, Dr. King's creed in both word and action.

Then the world will be ours!
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 6:23:58 PM EST

Originally Posted By Jm03:
What about Jeb??



Are you serious?
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 6:26:11 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 6:27:34 PM EST

Originally Posted By Jm03:
What about Jeb??



That is the man being backed by the powers to be...look for him to make a serious run.
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 6:33:53 PM EST

Originally Posted By HeavyMetal:
Why not Jeb? He is even more conservative than Dubya and a much better speaker.

Jeb is a good man.

i agree, but it won't happen, not right behind his brother at least.
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 6:33:58 PM EST
The possibility of either Guliani or McCain ever becoming President is more frightening than anything I could imagine! They are both gun grabbers and they are both liberals! With Hitlery, you have an honest representation of what you are getting, with Rudy or Johnny Mac you have a dishonest representation of the same basic idealogy.

Jeb and Cheney are the only conservative pro-gun choices for 2008.
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 6:39:03 PM EST

Originally Posted By -Absolut-:

Originally Posted By HeavyMetal:
Why not Jeb? He is even more conservative than Dubya and a much better speaker.

Jeb is a good man.

i agree, but it won't happen, not right behind his brother at least.



I don't think any of you guys have lived in Florida. He ass kisses the Hispanic vote way too much for me. Cuba would probably become a U.S. state if he got in office.
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 6:40:34 PM EST

Originally Posted By DigDug:
Condi Rice Vs Hillary. Condi would be great.



Yep. Condi would be an excellent candidate.

Conservative values - not to mention that she would cut into the core black / female vote that Hillary would need to get elected.
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 6:46:33 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 6:50:02 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/30/2004 6:50:29 PM EST by Va_Dinger]

Originally Posted By HeavyMetal:

Originally Posted By Va_Dinger:

Originally Posted By -Absolut-:

Originally Posted By HeavyMetal:
Why not Jeb? He is even more conservative than Dubya and a much better speaker.

Jeb is a good man.

i agree, but it won't happen, not right behind his brother at least.



I don't think any of you guys have lived in Florida. He ass kisses the Hispanic vote way too much for me. Cuba would probably become a U.S. state if he got in office.



So who would your perfect presidential candidate be?

Hillary?



Do you honestly believe the Democratic party is stupid enough to make Hillary there candidate for president? Get serious!
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 6:52:28 PM EST

Originally Posted By Johnny_Reno:

Originally Posted By DigDug:
Condi Rice Vs Hillary. Condi would be great.



Yep. Condi would be an excellent candidate.

Conservative values - not to mention that she would cut into the core black / female vote that Hillary would need to get elected.



No she won't. Every black person I know doesn't consider Condi black.

Remember the Alamo, and God Bless Texas...
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 6:54:24 PM EST

Originally Posted By kill-9:
Larry Craig/Bill Frist. Please not Giuliani (anti) or McCain (RINO).




+1
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 7:00:42 PM EST

Originally Posted By Va_Dinger:

Originally Posted By HeavyMetal:

Originally Posted By Va_Dinger:

Originally Posted By -Absolut-:

Originally Posted By HeavyMetal:
Why not Jeb? He is even more conservative than Dubya and a much better speaker.

Jeb is a good man.

i agree, but it won't happen, not right behind his brother at least.



I don't think any of you guys have lived in Florida. He ass kisses the Hispanic vote way too much for me. Cuba would probably become a U.S. state if he got in office.



So who would your perfect presidential candidate be?

Hillary?



Do you honestly believe the Democratic party is stupid enough to make Hillary there candidate for president? Get serious!

yes, they absolutely are. guaranteed for '08
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 7:06:47 PM EST
I like Rudy Giuliani , He did a good job as the Mayor of NYC . Of course I wasn’t happy when dropped out of the senate race against Hillary , but at the time he was dumping his wife for his girlfriend and fighting prostate cancer . So I let it slide

His stance on gun control is questionable , some say that it was pressure from his office that made NYC , CCW permits go from difficult to impossible for the average person to acquire .

Other then that he is one of the few politicians that consistently does what he says he's going to do .
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 7:09:49 PM EST

Originally Posted By chrome1:
I like Rudy Giuliani , He did a good job as the Mayor of NYC . Of course I wasn’t happy when dropped out of the senate race against Hillary , but at the time he was dumping his wife for his girlfriend and fighting prostate cancer . So I let it slide



The man is a slimeball. The LAST thing we need is another liberal in the White House chasing after skirts...


His stance on gun control is questionable , some say that it was pressure from his office that made NYC , CCW permits go from difficult to impossible for the average person to acquire .


...especially a gun grabber!
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 7:25:44 PM EST
Guliani
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 7:28:47 PM EST

Originally Posted By GodBlessTexas:

Originally Posted By Johnny_Reno:

Originally Posted By DigDug:
Condi Rice Vs Hillary. Condi would be great.



Yep. Condi would be an excellent candidate.

Conservative values - not to mention that she would cut into the core black / female vote that Hillary would need to get elected.



No she won't. Every black person I know doesn't consider Condi black.



Yes she will. She will make the Black numbers in the Republican vote triple minimum, maybe more.

BTW- OJ is the only Black in American history ever considered "not Black", and that wasnt by Black folks.



Link Posted: 8/30/2004 7:36:07 PM EST

Originally Posted By ar15bubba:
It will be one of the two. Either will probably wipe the floor with her.



Might as well be Hillary vs Hillary then - the LP folks here would finally be right about 'no difference'.

Fortunately, the candidate is chosen by the TRUE BELIEVERS who will not put a RINO up for President (I hope)...

GULIANI MUST NOT MAKE IT INTO NATIONAL POLITICS. EVEN TO GET HILLARY OUT OF THE SENATE. AND SOMEONE NEEDS TO END MCCAIN'S CARRER...

Personally, I'm hoping for a figure from the current administration to run...
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 8:14:23 PM EST

Originally Posted By -Absolut-:

Originally Posted By Va_Dinger:

Originally Posted By HeavyMetal:

Originally Posted By Va_Dinger:

Originally Posted By -Absolut-:

Originally Posted By HeavyMetal:
Why not Jeb? He is even more conservative than Dubya and a much better speaker.

Jeb is a good man.

i agree, but it won't happen, not right behind his brother at least.



I don't think any of you guys have lived in Florida. He ass kisses the Hispanic vote way too much for me. Cuba would probably become a U.S. state if he got in office.



So who would your perfect presidential candidate be?

Hillary?



Do you honestly believe the Democratic party is stupid enough to make Hillary there candidate for president? Get serious!

yes, they absolutely are. guaranteed for '08



For President?
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 11:20:33 PM EST

Originally Posted By Va_Dinger:

Originally Posted By Jm03:
What about Jeb??



Are you serious?

Are you, EVER? Silly child.


Forget McCain, pissed too many people off over the years. Guiliani or Frist.
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 11:42:52 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/30/2004 11:44:00 PM EST by ARDunstan]
Jeb goes after the Cuban vote because they are mostly
conservative. They have seen what socialism and communism can and has done.
There is however, a liberal hispanic minority that can screw things
up real bad down here in Miami.
Jeb needs the conservative Cubans. They are crucial.
Dade, Broward, and Palm Beach counties, are democratic, and the conservative
Cubans are pretty much the only force that can counteract that.
I've lived here most of my life and I can say that it has slowly
gotten worse down here.
The mayor of Dade county, whos is of Cuban descent, actually had the gall to
ask for an exemption to the State constitution regarding the regulation of firearms.
Translated: Ban them all in Dade Co.
Thats how bad Miami/Dade is.
We really do need all the help we can get.
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 11:44:11 PM EST
I would not vote for any of them.

McCain has allied himself with Americans for Gun Safety.

Hillary is...well, she's a Clinton.

Rudy just has an attitude that I don't care for.
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 11:46:45 PM EST
Rudy may well actually win the nomination for 2008.
He survived 911. That has weight.
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 11:49:07 PM EST

Originally Posted By rayra:

Originally Posted By Va_Dinger:

Originally Posted By Jm03:
What about Jeb??



Are you serious?

Are you, EVER? Silly child.





You are a complete moron.
Link Posted: 8/31/2004 10:44:13 AM EST
WTF?
Did people suddenly forget how McCain has worked against our 2nd Amendment rights?

Link Posted: 8/31/2004 11:11:15 AM EST
As I posted in a different thread, I'd support Hillary versus McCAin or Rudy in '08. Before I evoke the wrath of the ARFCOM army, let me lay out my line of thinking. With Hillary you have a common political enemy, someone to unite the party against her. No matter what she proposes she's going to have a tough row to hoe just to overcome the Clinton-Democrat affilation. With a RINO like Rudy or McCain, they have the party whip and mean to generate support from the GOP. Since the issues that matter to me are the same issue that Hillary and the RINO's have in common, I'm more inclined to opt for sure gridlock than the possibility of progressive issues being passed.
Link Posted: 8/31/2004 11:36:01 AM EST
Neither.
Do I need to remind the GOP why we're Repbulicans?
Giuliani is proving useful (for the moment), but I don't want him influencing the GOP platform.
Gun control, fag rights, abortion. No thanks.
Link Posted: 8/31/2004 11:41:04 AM EST
The only reason I would like to see Hitlery get voted in is because I truly believe that she would not only be the first woman president of the U.S., but also the first assassinated woman president in the U.S. I simply can't see someone like her getting through a full term without picking her off. Unless she had an even bigger idiot as her V.P., then it would have to be a double effort.
Link Posted: 8/31/2004 11:42:12 AM EST
I just have a question, what the hell is a RINO?
Link Posted: 8/31/2004 11:43:41 AM EST
McCain Is a JOke as a Republican.I dont know all the specifics of Rudy,but he does seem tohave some Charisma about him.

My comment about Jeb is Serious.He won last election by a landslide.They say he is very popular down there.You know he would carry FL,Texas and most of the South West.Maybe all the Minorities in my home state of IL (Chicago) would vote for him to and he could carry IL as well.

Makes sense to me
Link Posted: 8/31/2004 11:44:38 AM EST

Originally Posted By jaqattack02:
I just have a question, what the hell is a RINO?



Republican In Name Only

Link Posted: 8/31/2004 11:45:43 AM EST
Condi or Ollie North
Link Posted: 8/31/2004 11:46:34 AM EST
Hopefully that vile sow will eat so much that she becomes physically enmeshed in her couch.

Ugh. Foul beast.

Link Posted: 8/31/2004 11:49:18 AM EST

Originally Posted By sloth:
As I posted in a different thread, I'd support Hillary versus McCAin or Rudy in '08. Before I evoke the wrath of the ARFCOM army, let me lay out my line of thinking. With Hillary you have a common political enemy, someone to unite the party against her. No matter what she proposes she's going to have a tough row to hoe just to overcome the Clinton-Democrat affilation. With a RINO like Rudy or McCain, they have the party whip and mean to generate support from the GOP. Since the issues that matter to me are the same issue that Hillary and the RINO's have in common, I'm more inclined to opt for sure gridlock than the possibility of progressive issues being passed.




Unfortunately +1. McCain and Giuliani would allow our chains to be applied lightly, at least Hitlary would try to break us to the plow and maybe cause some people to wake up.
Link Posted: 8/31/2004 12:23:31 PM EST
Condi and Arnold
Link Posted: 8/31/2004 12:24:56 PM EST
Condi.

Let's see the Dems REALLY play twister while attacking a black woman!
Link Posted: 8/31/2004 12:31:18 PM EST

Originally Posted By -Absolut-:
Guliani, guaranteed.


I fear you are right. Then the real Repulican Party will have officially went down the crapper.
Link Posted: 8/31/2004 12:36:37 PM EST

Originally Posted By EagleArmsHBAR:
Condi or Ollie North



I would take Ollie in a Heart Beat!!
Link Posted: 8/31/2004 2:42:30 PM EST
McCain, Giulani or Hitlery, no real difference as far as effect. I'd vote Libertarian. And, when SHTF, do what I want. Yes, as one earlier poster said, might just be better if Hitlery were elected. Let it all happen clearly.
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