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Posted: 1/26/2014 3:45:12 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/26/2014 3:46:06 AM EDT by cobra-ak]


He walked into the Saint Barnabas Hospital emergency room complaining of a rash — and never made it out.

Instead, 30-year-old John Verrier was found dead in the waiting room eight hours after he arrived.

“He was found stiff, blue and cold,” a hospital worker told Eyewitness News. “He was there for a while.”


Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/bronx/man-30-dies-8-hour-wait-bronx-emergency-room-article-1.1591629#ixzz2rVYX99jT



There’s no policy in place to check the waiting room to see if people waiting to be seen are still there or still alive,” said the ER worker.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/bronx/man-30-dies-8-hour-wait-bronx-emergency-room-article-1.1591629#ixzz2rVYvYZNg

The Story
Link Posted: 1/26/2014 3:47:12 AM EDT
Is it more work or less work, for the ER staff, if your patient just dies in the waiting room?
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Link Posted: 1/26/2014 3:52:10 AM EDT
ERs are extremely overloaded right now.  Ours apparantly had three women miscarry in the waiting room in one weekend because they couldn't be seen.  They are admitting patients to the hallway on the medical surgical floors just to get people out of the ER so they can see people.  That's right, not even admitted to a room.  To a hallway, where people and visitors are just all walking around.

People are going to continue to die.  EMTALA is the root cause.

Link Posted: 1/26/2014 3:52:35 AM EDT


Patient Zero. And so it begins...


Link Posted: 1/26/2014 3:53:36 AM EDT
Man dies while waiting his turn, does not answer when called so they figure he left.

Meh, I don't see a problem here.
Link Posted: 1/26/2014 3:53:38 AM EDT
Would have died anyways in a third world country. Good thing there was at least a hospital. Wonder if there is more to the story? Probably.
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Originally Posted By Justa_TXguy:
ERs are extremely overloaded right now.  Ours apparantly had three women miscarry in the waiting room in one weekend because they couldn't be seen.  They are admitting patients to the hallway on the medical surgical floors just to get people out of the ER so they can see people.  That's right, not even admitted to a room.  To a hallway, where people and visitors are just all walking around.

People are going to continue to die.  EMTALA is the root cause.

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That's been SOP here in NY for as long as I can remember.


Link Posted: 1/26/2014 3:57:12 AM EDT
Since this guy looks like a thug, I'm gonna figure it's his fault. Somehow.
Link Posted: 1/26/2014 3:57:33 AM EDT
Just a warm up for single payer!
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Originally Posted By 46and2:
Since this guy looks like a thug, I'm gonna figure it's his fault. Somehow.
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Probably caught something from a batch of bad ink.

Link Posted: 1/26/2014 4:00:55 AM EDT
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That's been SOP here in NY for as long as I can remember.


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Originally Posted By Mech2007:
Originally Posted By Justa_TXguy:
ERs are extremely overloaded right now.  Ours apparantly had three women miscarry in the waiting room in one weekend because they couldn't be seen.  They are admitting patients to the hallway on the medical surgical floors just to get people out of the ER so they can see people.  That's right, not even admitted to a room.  To a hallway, where people and visitors are just all walking around.

People are going to continue to die.  EMTALA is the root cause.




That's been SOP here in NY for as long as I can remember.




I can see that at the county hospitals, but that's not us.  New for us.

We just started it.  I haven't figured out what the nurses are going to do when someone says they have to drop a deuce.  There are no bathrooms except in patient rooms.  What about if someone starts vomiting blood everywhere like Poltergeist?  There is nothing you can do.  

What is one of them codes?  You code them in the hall in front of everyone I suppose.  

No idea.  Glad I stay in ICU.
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Originally Posted By skid2041:

Would have died anyways in a third world country. Good thing there was at least a hospital. Wonder if there is more to the story? Probably.
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LOLWUT?



What good is a hospital if they don't even make an attempt at fixing you up? I can die in a chair sitting at home, no need to go to the hospital for that.
Link Posted: 1/26/2014 4:05:35 AM EDT
Comes in with a rash then dies later?
Didn't I see that in the movie "Contagion"??
Link Posted: 1/26/2014 4:08:03 AM EDT
My buddy went in for a pain in his foot AND NEVER CAME OUT. Scary
Link Posted: 1/26/2014 4:09:27 AM EDT
I wonder how long it took them to get him into the morgue?
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Originally Posted By TheRX7Project:

LOLWUT?

What good is a hospital if they don't even make an attempt at fixing you up? I can die in a chair sitting at home, no need to go to the hospital for that.
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Originally Posted By skid2041:
Would have died anyways in a third world country. Good thing there was at least a hospital. Wonder if there is more to the story? Probably.

LOLWUT?

What good is a hospital if they don't even make an attempt at fixing you up? I can die in a chair sitting at home, no need to go to the hospital for that.


"I have a rash" is pretty low priority in an ER room. "I can't breathe" tend to work better.

Now, ask yourself how many people in that ER had true life threatening problems and how many were there to try to score drugs, free minor medical care, or were just to stupid, cheap, or lazy to go to a urgent care facility for non life threatening problems.

Every time I have walked into an ER, I'd say maybe 1 in 10 people  had an issue where an ER visit was the correct thing to do, the rest had absolutely no immediate or urgent medical reason that couldn't be treated by a plain Dr office.
Link Posted: 1/26/2014 4:11:18 AM EDT
Pity if he died from something he picked up at the hospital whilst in queue.

 
 
 
Link Posted: 1/26/2014 4:12:33 AM EDT
From the looks of him, I'm guessing he wasn't about to discover the cure for cancer. I'm also guessing his "rash" had something to do with a bad personal choice or lifestyle.
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Originally Posted By KingRat:
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That would have been awfully fact acting.

The only thing that usually kills someone quickly in a NYC ER is when someone contracts a sudden case of lead poisoning when their homie decides to continue the disagreement that got them there in the first place.


Link Posted: 1/26/2014 4:17:51 AM EDT
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Is a rash something you go to the ER for? It's not for me.

How about your primary care physician?

I wonder what the Cause of death was.

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Link Posted: 1/26/2014 4:19:49 AM EDT
So guy goes in at 1000 at night by himself I guess, family didn't miss him until the hospital calls them after 6 in the am?
now they are distraught & want money....
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Originally Posted By Justice23:
Is a rash something you go to the ER for? It's not for me.

How about your primary care physician?

I wonder what the Cause of death was.

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You're not used to life in the big city. You go to the ER for all your ailments so the gubmint can pick up the tab.

Link Posted: 1/26/2014 4:24:03 AM EDT
"struggled with drug addiction"

Oh, well.
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Originally Posted By fxntime:
"I have a rash" is pretty low priority in an ER room. "I can't breathe" tend to work better.



Now, ask yourself how many people in that ER had true life threatening problems and how many were there to try to score drugs, free minor medical care, or were just to stupid, cheap, or lazy to go to a urgent care facility for non life threatening problems.



Every time I have walked into an ER, I'd say maybe 1 in 10 people had an issue where an ER visit was the correct thing to do, the rest had absolutely no immediate or urgent medical reason that couldn't be treated by a plain Dr office.
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Originally Posted By TheRX7Project:



Originally Posted By skid2041:

Would have died anyways in a third world country. Good thing there was at least a hospital. Wonder if there is more to the story? Probably.


LOLWUT?



What good is a hospital if they don't even make an attempt at fixing you up? I can die in a chair sitting at home, no need to go to the hospital for that.




"I have a rash" is pretty low priority in an ER room. "I can't breathe" tend to work better.



Now, ask yourself how many people in that ER had true life threatening problems and how many were there to try to score drugs, free minor medical care, or were just to stupid, cheap, or lazy to go to a urgent care facility for non life threatening problems.



Every time I have walked into an ER, I'd say maybe 1 in 10 people had an issue where an ER visit was the correct thing to do, the rest had absolutely no immediate or urgent medical reason that couldn't be treated by a plain Dr office.


While I'm not disagreeing, I do wonder how many people die at ERs every year while waiting to be seen for something "low priority".
Link Posted: 1/26/2014 4:26:42 AM EDT
I'm sorry that guy died, but in my experience a chinstrap beard is about a 98% reliable douchebag indicator.
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Originally Posted By Lost-Drive-In:
"struggled with drug addiction"

Oh, well.
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Bad batch of Heroin
Link Posted: 1/26/2014 4:28:18 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By xylo:
Is it more work or less work, for the ER staff, if your patient just dies in the waiting room?
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More paper work, less patient contact.
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Originally Posted By Jarhead_22:
I'm sorry that guy died, but in my experience a chinstrap beard is about a 98% reliable douchebag indicator.
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That and the telltale neck ink
Link Posted: 1/26/2014 4:29:33 AM EDT

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Originally Posted By Kihn:
More paper work, less patient contact.

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Originally Posted By xylo:

Is it more work or less work, for the ER staff, if your patient just dies in the waiting room?




More paper work, less patient contact.

Depends on how dead they are when you find them.

 
Link Posted: 1/26/2014 4:30:43 AM EDT


Keep living in NY.  It is a Liberal shithole.  I escaped from NY/NJ 14 years ago.  Just the fact I don't pay state income tax
paid for my boat.(and then some)


Hospitals near me in FL have billboards with live wait times for the ER.  It is usually somewhere between 6 and 45 minutes.


Oh, yeah, who brought said homeboy to the ER?  He should have voted for Romney and he'd be alive.
Link Posted: 1/26/2014 4:31:12 AM EDT
They just cut loose 30 odd hospital workers in my area with Obama Care stated as the reason. The butt-hurt in the letters to the editor from the local Dems was amazing.
Link Posted: 1/26/2014 4:33:13 AM EDT
I head away from the city when I need medical attention. Wait times are nil and getting an appointment at a doctors office is painless.
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Originally Posted By ZootTX:
Depends on how dead they are when you find them.  
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Originally Posted By ZootTX:
Originally Posted By Kihn:
Originally Posted By xylo:
Is it more work or less work, for the ER staff, if your patient just dies in the waiting room?


More paper work, less patient contact.
Depends on how dead they are when you find them.  


True dat. Possibly salvageable, gets moved to the front of the line.
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Originally Posted By cobra-ak:
My buddy went in for a pain in his foot AND NEVER CAME OUT. Scary
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Dude.  Same thing happened to my grandmother.

She went into a nursing home, and she died.



True story.

Link Posted: 1/26/2014 4:34:33 AM EDT
Well thank goodness for the Affordable Care Act?
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Patient Zero. And so it begins...


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PMAG POPPING!
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Better call Saul!

Pain, suffering and loss of companionship FTW!!!

Yippee!....I mean,...I'm sooooo sad.

<sniff>  write me a check.


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Originally Posted By KingRat:
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You talk real purdy
Link Posted: 1/26/2014 4:50:09 AM EDT
The sad thing is, those must be the most flattering pictures they could find of this fine citizen. What must the rejected images depict?
Link Posted: 1/26/2014 4:50:18 AM EDT
Did they find him in a bathroom stall with a needle in his arm?

Heroin will do that.

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Link Posted: 1/26/2014 4:51:03 AM EDT
Rash+ rapid death might be this:

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Rash+ rapid death might be this:

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Meningitis?
Link Posted: 1/26/2014 5:00:30 AM EDT
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DAY ONE
Link Posted: 1/26/2014 5:02:34 AM EDT
what the heel are those spots on his arms????????
Link Posted: 1/26/2014 5:06:18 AM EDT
Last trip my wife made to a local ER due to an auto accident see spent the entire 5 hrs in the hallway, thanks Brandon regional.
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Rash + quick death = bacterial meningitis until proven otherwise if I had to guess.

I'd hope our ER would not have such a long wait time, but then again, how soon did he die and when did they call for him?  Maybe his mental status was altered much earlier and he didn't respond to them calling for him - so unless the waiting area is video monitored and they go to review it, we might never know what happened.
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what the heel are those spots on his arms????????
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Likely some sort of fatal rash.
Link Posted: 1/26/2014 5:10:20 AM EDT
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Meningitis?
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Originally Posted By fxntime:
Meningitis?

And there is a vaccine for it.    Teens usually get a second shot of it just before leaving for college.  Although the neck tat makes me think the departed might not have taken that route.

Hospital officials insisted Verrier, who had struggled with drug addiction, was checked numerous times.

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Typical Bronx street mope, I'd love to see his list of priors...

ETA

Is Abuelita a man???



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Likely some sort of fatal rash.
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what the heel are those spots on his arms????????


Likely some sort of fatal rash.


Probably started as bumps on his balls and worked its way up.
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