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Posted: 4/23/2016 9:22:37 PM EDT
I found this while helping my dad clean his basement, how are Makarovs for ccw?
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Link Posted: 4/23/2016 9:23:22 PM EDT
Iffy safety
Iffy caliber


Maybe as a drop gun
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Link Posted: 4/23/2016 9:24:47 PM EDT
So many better choices, but it would work.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 9:25:50 PM EDT
Killed plenty of Nazis
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Originally Posted By Star_Scream:
Iffy safety
Iffy caliber

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You can certainly question the caliber, but what's wrong with the safety? It has a de-cocker. You don't even need to use the safety as it's DA/SA, but you can have the added option of having a safety.

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Originally Posted By CarbineDad:
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Pretty sure it was invented after WWII.

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Link Posted: 4/23/2016 9:27:40 PM EDT
I still have a P-64 I AIWB when I need the smallest possible gun. I don't feel under gunned with it, but I know the first shot is useless, as I carry it decocked with the safety on.

Its not a whole lot smaller than a G43 though, and Im thinking of upgrading, and leaving the P-64 in one of my vehicles.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 9:29:11 PM EDT
It's perfectly serviceable.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 9:29:40 PM EDT
If that's what you've got, that's what you've got.

Hornady Critical Duty
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 9:30:26 PM EDT
Sights are kinda tiny, and the caliber ain't so hot, but they're extremely accurate and tough as hell.

Hornady makes the best ammo for them that I know of.

I have an East German Makarov that I occasionally carry in the summertime, and it's a very comfortable carry piece with a good holster. I like the early Alien Gear hybrid IWB with the leather backing plate.

If you're not planning on having a huge firefight every time you go out, the Makarov will do fine for everyday carry.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 9:30:44 PM EDT
Better than a 45 at home.
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Your history is non accurate.
Your enthusiasm is refreshing.
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Only in prison camps.
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Originally Posted By CarbineDad:
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Wat?

Its kind of heavy for a .380ish but it will work fine. Run what you brung.

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Originally Posted By Power2thePeople:
If that's what you've got, that's what you've got.

Hornady Critical Duty
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I also have a Glock 21 and a Ruger P97 but the size and weight keep me from carrying as often I should.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 9:37:03 PM EDT
Commie Walther PP

Bretty Gud except few good HP for 9mmMak.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 9:38:55 PM EDT
Goes good with Buffalo Bore ammo for SD.
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I also have a Glock 21 and a Ruger P97 but the size and weight keep me from carrying as often I should.
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Originally Posted By SweepTheLeg:
Originally Posted By Power2thePeople:
If that's what you've got, that's what you've got.

Hornady Critical Duty


I also have a Glock 21 and a Ruger P97 but the size and weight keep me from carrying as often I should.


If you would carry the Mak more religiously than the other two, I would say carry the Mak.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 9:43:11 PM EDT
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If you're going to carry it then you will need this at some point. The factory sight doesn't last long hence this was invented. Bought one when I was into Makarovs. Well built.
http://www.gunpartswarehouse.com/pistol-parts/makarov-pistol/ij-70-fixed-rear-sight.html
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You can certainly question the caliber, but what's wrong with the safety? It has a de-cocker. You don't even need to use the safety as it's DA/SA, but you can have the added option of having a safety.

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Originally Posted By Star_Scream:
Iffy safety
Iffy caliber

Maybe as a drop gun


You can certainly question the caliber, but what's wrong with the safety? It has a de-cocker. You don't even need to use the safety as it's DA/SA, but you can have the added option of having a safety.

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Don't they slamfire or have a higher incidence of slam firing?
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 9:48:19 PM EDT
It's fine, but a little heavy for the mag capacity. Like carrying a 1911 weight wise.

I do frequently carry a CZ-82 in the same 9x18 caliber.

Yours appears to be Russian, with adjustable sights. Nice.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 9:49:38 PM EDT
Fuck no. OMG...why would you even think for a minute that this gun is okay for CCW!?
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 9:49:59 PM EDT
I bought a couple mak's way back in the day and have put a shit ton of ammo through the one, I trust it to work as it should, my only concern about using it for defense would availability of quality defensive ammo.
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Don't they slamfire or have a higher incidence of slam firing?
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Originally Posted By Star_Scream:
Iffy safety
Iffy caliber

Maybe as a drop gun


You can certainly question the caliber, but what's wrong with the safety? It has a de-cocker. You don't even need to use the safety as it's DA/SA, but you can have the added option of having a safety.

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Don't they slamfire or have a higher incidence of slam firing?


They are pretty safe. I ride the hammer down slowly when using the decocker on mine. Just in case.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 9:50:57 PM EDT
GTG CCW

It's a very reliable firearm
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 9:56:20 PM EDT
Thanks for all the replies, looks like a mix of good/bad. I guess the first thing I should do is go see if I can shoot the thing accurately.
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Originally Posted By hawktheslayer:
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Why not?
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 9:59:28 PM EDT
They can be really accurate and they ARE very reliable. Dare I say, glock like reliable.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 10:00:08 PM EDT
If you're shooting political dissidents in the back of the head I guess it might work.
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I carry one with me on my motorcycle.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 10:02:38 PM EDT
Solid piece...probably better to sell it and buy a modern 9mm. The values are creeping up slowly.
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Originally Posted By merdenom5:
They can be really accurate and they ARE very reliable. Dare I say, glock like reliable.
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+1.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 10:07:19 PM EDT
I've carried mine before, like others have said they are heavy but as long as it goes bang each time you pull the trigger then carry it.

It's not the best option but it's better then a sharp stick and I wouldn't want to be shot by one.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 10:10:48 PM EDT
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I have one and I've carried it before. It's a fine weapon and fits my hand very well, though there are 9mm's that weight the same/less and are the same size. The ammo is as good or better than .380 and very cheap.

If you want to carry it I'd swap the super-snaggy and questionably stable adjustable rear sight and get a fixed one here: http://www.gunpartswarehouse.com/pistol-parts/makarov-pistol/ij-70-fixed-rear-sight.html. You may need to shim it a bit with thin brass shining stock or whatever else you prefer to use. Mine tends to shoot a bit high out of the box without a thin shim under the sight. Also be sure to loctite the sight screw or it'll play cosmonaut in the middle of a range session.

Also consider the FAB "PM-G" grip that gives you a one-hand/drop-free magazine release, usually found on ebay for around $40.

ETA: Also get rid of the lanyard ring on the grip. It'll dig into you something fierce when against your body. Get a grip without it or cut it off the one you have.

ETA2: And change out that useless recoil spring, and get a 19lb or 21lb replacement from Wolff. The factory spring is under-powered and leads to unneeded battering of the slide/frame. I have a 21lb in mine and it recoils almost like a 22lr, and it never fails to cycle or feed.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 10:11:50 PM EDT
Heavy by modern standards.

Dead nuts reliable.

I am a big MAK fan, but I would rather carry a S&W Shield or a Glock 29.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IAEbbhRJNYw
Here is a Mak torture test.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 10:14:52 PM EDT
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It'd work fine up close. just dont plan on doing any sort of fast reload

Get some practice with that safety though and make sure your makarov is one of the good ones (Makarovs by no means are created equal)
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Originally Posted By HeavyMetal:
That's too collectable to turn into a CCW.
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The IJ-70 is the ugly bastard stepchild of the Makarov world. You'd have a hard time selling it for $250 (I would know, I've sold a few and currently own one I got for $200 about 2 years ago in LNIB condition). It's certainly not a collectable. But they are well-built albeit crudely machined and finished compared to other Makarovs. It will serve fine as a CCW.
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Don't they slamfire or have a higher incidence of slam firing?
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Originally Posted By Star_Scream:
Iffy safety
Iffy caliber

Maybe as a drop gun


You can certainly question the caliber, but what's wrong with the safety? It has a de-cocker. You don't even need to use the safety as it's DA/SA, but you can have the added option of having a safety.

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Don't they slamfire or have a higher incidence of slam firing?
You're probably thinking of the CZ-52 which had a bad decocker design. The Makarov isn't capable of firing on decock unless someone shaves several mm of metal off both of two separate protrusions on the back of the safety.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 10:19:46 PM EDT
damn it, now i want one again..
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 10:21:06 PM EDT
Carried my mine many times.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 10:23:27 PM EDT
If its all you've got, sure, run what ya brung. Modern, affordable platforms are better suited for modern CC but as a stash/backup gun that is free from your dads basement, totally decent.
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Originally Posted By Star_Scream:
Iffy safety
Iffy caliber

Maybe as a drop gun


You can certainly question the caliber, but what's wrong with the safety? It has a de-cocker. You don't even need to use the safety as it's DA/SA, but you can have the added option of having a safety.

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Don't they slamfire or have a higher incidence of slam firing?


As with SKS's, the firing pin channel should be cleaned of cosmoline, but it otherwise is no more prone to slam fires than other pistols. I did a search and actually found an old post of mine in this thread below. It is a rock solid pistol design but, as noted, there are better options for CCW. I prefer 9mm Luger and much higher capacity.

https://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=5&f=46&t=72038


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Originally Posted By demoMouse:
It'd work fine up close. just dont plan on doing any sort of fast reload

Get some practice with that safety though and make sure your makarov is one of the good ones (Makarovs by no means are created equal)
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I don't think there is much difference between the manufacturers other than cosmetic. The East Germans are beautiful pistols, but the Chinese one's as mechanically sound.

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Link Posted: 4/23/2016 10:29:28 PM EDT
I qualified with the same model Makarov back in the mid 90's as an off duty gun (paid $165.00 for it brand new at a local dealer). Shot a perfect score on the standard qualification course. Accurate, with a good American made HP load a little better than the .380. It would make a good car gun (if legal where you live) as worse case scenario, if stolen, you would not be out a more expensive gun.
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I don't think there is much difference between the manufacturers other than cosmetic. The East Germans are beautiful pistols, but the Chinese one's as mechanically sound.

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It'd work fine up close. just dont plan on doing any sort of fast reload

Get some practice with that safety though and make sure your makarov is one of the good ones (Makarovs by no means are created equal)


I don't think there is much difference between the manufacturers other than cosmetic. The East Germans are beautiful pistols, but the Chinese one's as mechanically sound.

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His is an IJ-70, the export model intended for the US civilian market. They weren't finished as nicely and show more machining marks, but they are as reliable and durable as any other Makarov.
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I agree. There are (IMHO) "better handguns." But, it'll do.

Aloha, Mark
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 10:32:15 PM EDT
There are so many better options I can't imagine why anyone would intentionally carry one. A range toy or for collecting? Sure. For serious? Dumb.
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