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Posted: 10/12/2009 8:16:50 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/12/2009 11:08:05 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/12/2009 12:15:31 PM EST
I really don't know what to say...as strong a conservative and gun enthusiast/activist i am, I can't image quitting ministry....and i've had some hard times in ministry....heck I started carrying b/c my life (and that of my pregnant wife) was threatened by a church member (deacon) at one time...been fired for not allowing homosexuality in a church....but quitting the ministry and giving up my credentials and lisence to persue gun activism....never
Link Posted: 10/12/2009 2:58:53 PM EST
Yeah, but you aren't him. I don't imagine ministry is populated only by people who chose it because it actually was their calling. Maybe this guy is one of those. Or maybe ministry was a stepping stone to this. Who knows?

And you know what they say about saying "never," don't you?
Link Posted: 10/13/2009 5:58:40 AM EST
lol...yea....But I was at that Rally, I really admire the guy, he quoted Whitfield, and took the teeth out of the media, it was really good. I was impressed––-just a little disappointing now is all...
Link Posted: 10/16/2009 3:38:41 AM EST
Sometimes the sheep are scared of the sheepdogs b/c they look too much like the wolves...
Link Posted: 10/17/2009 10:55:41 PM EST
Originally Posted By PreachermanMATT:
I really don't know what to say...as strong a conservative and gun enthusiast/activist i am, I can't image quitting ministry....and i've had some hard times in ministry....heck I started carrying b/c my life (and that of my pregnant wife) was threatened by a church member (deacon) at one time...been fired for not allowing homosexuality in a church....but quitting the ministry and giving up my credentials and lisence to persue gun activism....never


You were fired because you wouldn't let guys have sex with each other in a church?
Link Posted: 10/18/2009 9:00:22 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/18/2009 9:21:03 AM EST

Originally Posted By PreachermanMATT:
I really don't know what to say...as strong a conservative and gun enthusiast/activist i am, I can't image quitting ministry....and i've had some hard times in ministry....heck I started carrying b/c my life (and that of my pregnant wife) was threatened by a church member (deacon) at one time...been fired for not allowing homosexuality in a church....but quitting the ministry and giving up my credentials and lisence to persue gun activism....never

With respect, I think you may be projecting too much of your persona onto him.

I appreciate your steadfastness, but his change in ministry does not mean an end to his ministry. Sounds like he still plans to minister to people through his church security efforts, but not as a Senior Pastor any more.


Link Posted: 10/18/2009 12:09:27 PM EST

Originally Posted By DrMark:

Originally Posted By PreachermanMATT:
I really don't know what to say...as strong a conservative and gun enthusiast/activist i am, I can't image quitting ministry....and i've had some hard times in ministry....heck I started carrying b/c my life (and that of my pregnant wife) was threatened by a church member (deacon) at one time...been fired for not allowing homosexuality in a church....but quitting the ministry and giving up my credentials and lisence to persue gun activism....never

With respect, I think you may be projecting too much of your persona onto him.

I appreciate your steadfastness, but his change in ministry does not mean an end to his ministry. Sounds like he still plans to minister to people through his church security efforts, but not as a Senior Pastor any more.



per the link he resign his ministerial creds with his denomination...
Link Posted: 10/21/2009 9:15:06 AM EST
Maybe he just couldn't preach the truth in a 501C3 church...

Link Posted: 11/3/2009 10:28:06 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/3/2009 10:28:47 AM EST by DTAK]
There is too much mixing of God and Guns. These two are not inherintly joined at the hip. I became so sick of the mixture as I sat in the NRA annual rally this past year in Pheonix. I felt like I was listening to Imams.

The Bible seems to be, well, not too clear on the topic. What is clear is that Jesus said his Kingdom is not of this world or else his servants would fight. What is clear is things would be a lot different if Stephen whipped out a short sword and slashed a few Pharisees instead of dying a faithful Martyr.

What is clear is the the physical life (i.e. guns etc) and the spiritual life are not equivilant. The NRA rally made the second amendment seem like the 11th commandment. I have a problem w/ that.
Link Posted: 11/4/2009 12:58:01 PM EST
Concern I have is that he's joined up with a rabbi that teaches improper tactics to other churches. I think ultimately that will hurt his credibility more than anything.

I agree with his intentions. Sometimes, a person needs a change. He isn't giving up his roots as he is still holding onto his chaplain position with his local LE.

I just wish that if he was going to start an organization, they wouldn't do it with bad instruction.
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