Posted: 11/15/2011 9:37:42 AM EDT
| I bought a lock pick gun just for something to play around with, I have tried to use it on a master lock with no success. Can anybody give me any tips or point me in the right direction on learning about these? I watched some videos on them but they make it look so easy, |
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Do you understand the theory of how they and locks work? There is definitely a "feel" to it. I'm not great at it and there are some locks that are considerably easier than others. The old man that taught me had a very aggressive, almost violent action. He didn't use a gun. Is your gun electric or manual? You have to constantly adjust the (very light) pressure on your turn bar. It has to be just tight enough to allow the pins to click into place but not too tight to allow the other ones to "catch up". Some locks are damn near impossible. There are some with opposing pins and some where the pins have "feet" that go into a jagged groove in the center of the key. (I believe BMW has a key like this). Master locks can be tough if you have one where the last groove really covers up the pins and you're going at them at a pretty good angle. Try a cheap door knob lock, first. |
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Do you understand the theory of how they and locks work?
There is definitely a "feel" to it. I'm not great at it and there are some locks that are considerably easier than others. The old man that taught me had a very aggressive, almost violent action. He didn't use a gun. Is your gun electric or manual? You have to constantly adjust the (very light) pressure on your turn bar. It has to be just tight enough to allow the pins to click into place but not too tight to allow the other ones to "catch up". Some locks are damn near impossible. There are some with opposing pins and some where the pins have "feet" that go into a jagged groove in the center of the key. (I believe BMW has a key like this). Master locks can be tough if you have one where the last groove really covers up the pins and you're going at them at a pretty good angle. Try a cheap door knob lock, first. Thanks for the great info. |
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Fuck the guns,
Get a simple set of rakes and figure out how to do it one pin at a time. Sit around and watch tv with every lock you can get your hands on. It won't take long to figure out how easy it is to pick 90% of the locks out there. Master locks take 5-15 seconds with little skill. Once you start on the ones with security pins and other anti picking thingys it starts to get fun. After you know what your doing making you own rakes out of spring steel and hack saw blades will speed things up. |
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Quoted: I bought a lock pick gun just for something to play around with, I have tried to use it on a master lock with no success. Can anybody give me any tips or point me in the right direction on learning about these? I watched some videos on them but they make it look so easy, In my opinion they are a last ditch tool for when you have failed to properly pick a lock and need to throw a hail mary. Lockpicking is a hobby of mine. |
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I made a pick & tension bar out of the metal blade from a windshield wiper blade after seeing someone do it online.
I can pick the desk locks here at work and TSA locks( it's what I had handy) with it all day long and was able to pick a Brinks pad lock one time 
I thought about buying me a pick set |
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Quoted: What would be a good affordable pick set(without gun) to start out with? Any well known manuals or instructional books? Pro-lock makes a fine set. Look on Amazon, they are cheap. Download the "MIT guide to lockpicking" if you can find it. Then, go buy or scavenge a few padlocks and a few *cheap* deadbolts (nothing pick resistant like a Schlage), mount the deadbolts on a 2x4 and you can sit on your couch and practice, that is how I learned. Its a VERY handy hobby, I have saved the day for myself and a few of my friends now just by being able to get through a cheap lock. |
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DOWNLOAD THIS: That is THE book on lockpicking, it will tell you everything you need to know that can possibly be learned from a document. |
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DOWNLOAD THIS: That is THE book on lockpicking, it will tell you everything you need to know that can possibly be learned from a document. THIS is what I need thanks! |
The gun can be effective, if used properly. To learn the technique follow the others suggestions, and get a starter kit with pics/ rakes, and tension bar. After the basics, the electric, or manual pick gun will be easier, but like many other things, take baby steps, and learn proper technique. There are a few principles, which will help you out. You can get a cheap pic/ booklet set for $30 or so, but better quality and more thorough books will cost a little more, but are well worth it. I have used a gun many times for security "audits" to gain access to to otherwise secure areas that are so important, that only a $10 lock was used
Good luck, and check local laws before carrying them out of your house, they can be considered a "burglary tool" in some places, which may result in an unwanted misdemeanor or felony that you will need to lawyer up for. So be careful, laws vary greatly from region to region. Good Luck OP -PC- |
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Fuck the guns, Get a simple set of rakes and figure out how to do it one pin at a time. Sit around and watch tv with every lock you can get your hands on. It won't take long to figure out how easy it is to pick 90% of the locks out there. Master locks take 5-15 seconds with little skill. Once you start on the ones with security pins and other anti picking thingys it starts to get fun. After you know what your doing making you own rakes out of spring steel and hack saw blades will speed things up. In my very limited lockpick tinkering, I have found master locks to be surprisingly easy too. Had a buddy who was training to be a locksmith turn me loose with his picks. Took me about 5 minutes to do the first one, a matter of seconds after that. ETA: Possession of picks is a no no where I live so I never got into it as a hobby. |
