[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Life for pot? (Page 1 of 3)
Posted: 6/2/2005 7:45:59 PM EDT
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Our small town paper had an article about a 42 year old who has arrested for having 20 pounds of pot in his house. this could be his third convictin. The states attorney is going after a life sentence under the states 3 strike rule. Do you think this is wrong or right? I think this is insane. I HATE pot, I don't use it , nor do am I defending a dealer. But life for pot, come on. |
| If convicted, he wouldn't really be getting life for pot possession with intent to distribute, but for having a 3rd felony conviction - a career criminal, really. Enhanced sentence based on his overall criminal record, not just pot possession with intent to distribute. |
20 pounds is more than personal consumption. he was going to sell it, that makes him a drug trafficker or a dealer. |
+1 20lbs of pot No telling what other mischief he's been up too. Besides his life sentence will no doubt be reduced to a few years for good behavior and the prison systems propencity to realease non-violent criminals to make room for the violent ones. |
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Look until pot is made legal, (if ever) 20 pounds proves intent to distribute which is not some simple 'personal use' beef. Plus having two previous felonies showes he is an habitual offender and not inclined to play by the rules. Seems to me he had two other 'chances' to show he was going to get 'with the program' and go straight. IMHO, three felonies is like baseball, three strikes and your out........  Like they say life is hard, and it's harder if your stupid!!! Criminal to Southern Judge: "I can't do 20 to life!!! I'll die in there!!!" Judge to Criminal:"Well then son, just do what you can, just do what you can".........  Don't do the crime if you can't do the time........ 
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You are not framing the question correctly, IMHO. He is not getting life for pot possession with intent to distribute. He is getting life for having 3 felonies. Better to frame the question this way: Should a person be given a life sentence for possession of 20 pounds of pot with intent to distribute? (no, IMHO). Or, Should a person be given a life sentence after a third felony conviction? (maybe, IMHO) |
wow, nice one. And the DARE program claims another sheeple. Drugs are neither bad nor good. They're just drugs. Reminds me a little of guns. If ammo was illegal and he had 20 lbs of it, would you care? I for one believe in freedom- freedom is given unless someone does something stupid and hurts someone else- then it's taken away. Drugs shouldn't be illegal, hurting someone with drugs should be, however. Despite what DARE says, there actually are a lot of responsible, recreational drug users. |
No one said they were good nor bad, dumbass. However, it is a CRIME to have and/or use them. 
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Calm your ass down. Incase you didn't know, personal attacks are not allowed here. The point is, it shouldn't be a crime to simply posess something. It's called freedom. There are a lot of parallels to be drawn from gun control and drug control. |
 I probably wouldn't get a life sentance but, if they ever searched my domicile it would probably make National News. "Police found over 30 firearms including AK-47's, M-16's, Assault Shotguns, Semi-Automatic Handguns and High Power Tactical Sniper Rifles (all non-NFA, most locked up in a sturdy safe) along with, more than 100,000 rounds of ammunition and a large cache of (EeeeeVul) hi-capacity magazines. May the guy was just putting some stuff away for a rainy day. Or not so much.
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It wasnt a personal attack, an acute observation. It shouldnt be a crime to possess things? So it's ok to possess stolen goods? seriously, gtfo. Possession is oh, 4oz. Maybe 8oz. Not TWENTY FREAKING POUNDS. |
Really... It should not be a crime to "simply possess something". Really... Child porn? Anthrax? Really… “It's called freedom”. No it is called drug trafficking. |
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Nitpick all you want. You're saying that drugs are as bad as child porn. Its common sense that child porn is wrong. Why do you care if someone wants to get high? It's not hurting you or anyone else. Child porn does, however. Thats completely different. What I should have said "It shouldn't be a crime to simply possess something if it doesnt hurt anyone" Your shitty comparison to child porn doesn't prove that drugs cause harm to innocent people- and thats my point. Do you really think that drugs being illegal has stopped someone from becoming a drug abuser? |
Nitpick? Not me. You said it not me. I will simply quote what you said.
You made no qualification then just pontifications… Apparently you mean what you say only until called on the hyperbole it is. My comparison was not sh*tty… just your reasoning or lack there of. Now you are doing a clasic backstroke. And yes I certainly believe that drugs being illegal has stopped MILLIONS from becoming a drug abusers? |
I'm sorry, this thread isn't about "guns". It's about "drugs". If you could kindly keep out your "what if's" for another thread, that'd be great, mk? Thanksss...... |
So now, drugs just became "Marijuana"? So it's ok had it been Cocaine? Or Meth? It's not hurting someone if they OD on Coke? Or Meth???  Wow man......just wow...... |
Child porn hurts people?! Who does it hurt? The child? Does it scar them mentally if they have no idea what is going on?
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Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly said the gunfire erupted at 7:40 p.m. after Caprice and his partner, both in uniform, spotted Redden buying a small amount of marijuana on Grafton St. and Pitkin Ave. in Brownsville. When the cops tried to pull him over, Redden sped off, cops said. The officers chased Redden's gold Ford Escort for 9 blocks as the suspect ran several red lights before pulling over at Dumont Ave. near Chester St. As Caprice got out of the marked cruiser, Redden began firing at him from the driver's seat, cops said. Redden briefly got out of his car and continued to fire at Caprice, Kelly said. Construction worker Sadon Loc, 20, who lives in the nearby Marcus Garvey Houses, was on Chester St. when the gunfire erupted. "There were shots, first four, then maybe nine," Loc said. "The cop was lying in the street. He was lying on the ground with his gun still in his hand. He was swimming in his own blood." |
obviously another dumb ass that hasn't worked ER on a weekends. there is the 2A for the right to bear arms, there isn't an Amendment to toke, read the Federalist Papers and come back with some insight. wganz ¶ |
You really think that was THAT funny? And yes, child porn DOES hurt people. It violates them. Even if THEY don't know it. You have to be joking. |
So the ONLY reason we should be able to own firearms is because the 2A? Freedom has nothing to do with it? |
If someone ODs on a drug, it being illegal didn't deter them, did it? |
Nitpick, OK. So apparently common-sense rules supreme here. So it's good when common sense says that child porn is bad... ..but gullibility or ignorance ("DARE program claims another sheeple") when common sense says that drugs are bad? Please. |
Drugs sitting there isn't exactly bad. Its what you do with them. Child porn sitting there IS bad. It's not what you do with it, it's bad period. |