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Posted: 5/20/2005 6:35:56 AM EDT
Is the federal or state government able to seize illegal immigrants assets, such as money, vehicles, etc.? Just like drug dealers illegal assets are taken when they are arrested.

By coming here illegally, any profit made here could be argued as being the fruits an illegal enterprise. Take their assets to be distributed to the state and federal agencies that combat or give unpaid (government) services to illegal immigration (Border Patrol, Hospitals, Public Schools, etc).

Thoughts?



Link Posted: 5/21/2005 1:15:34 AM EDT
Between you, me and the fence post, did you ever see an illegal immigrant with much in the way of assets? Those guys that hang around the Home Depot in clothes they got at a church clothes closet? Those guys?
Link Posted: 5/21/2005 4:54:07 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Dance:
Is the federal or state government able to seize illegal immigrants assets, such as money, vehicles, etc.? Just like drug dealers illegal assets are taken when they are arrested.

By coming here illegally, any profit made here could be argued as being the fruits an illegal enterprise. Take their assets to be distributed to the state and federal agencies that combat or give unpaid (government) services to illegal immigration (Border Patrol, Hospitals, Public Schools, etc).

Thoughts?






better still seize the assets of employers who knowing they are illegals still employ them.
Link Posted: 5/21/2005 4:58:05 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Fourays2:

better still seize the assets of employers who knowing they are illegals still employ them.



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American employers know they are in DEEP doo-doo if they hire me under the table, why is it different for a wetback?

Dave
Link Posted: 5/21/2005 5:21:27 AM EDT
Asset Forfeiture laws generally only apply to the proceeds from certain felonies, particularly drug-smuggling cases. The forensic accounting investigations necessary to develop enough evidence to seize assets from real estate, bank accounts and other tangible property involved in serious organized crime are lengthy and complicated and generally only worth the effort if major assets are involved. They also do not apply to most illegal immigrants, as they typically do not own real estate, expensive cars or maintain large accessible bank accounts, and there is typically no statuatory authority for state or local officials to seize those assets, even if they existed.

For example, most forfeitures of cash from drug dealers typically do not start until you hit about the 10K mark, because the expense of conducting the investigations, developing evidence to support that the money was invloved in drug transactions, and legal bills (even .gov lawyers cost money) make it "not worth the effort." Despite the typical Internet myth that LE can seize cash simply and routinely, it actually does take a fair amount of investigative work, proof of criminal activity and some solid evidence before LE can take money, cars or other assets from suspected criminals. There is not authority for LE to do so when the only offense is illegal entry into the US.

I will add that many illegal immigrants dealy primarily in cash (they do not trust banks and have difficulty opening accounts) and it is routine to arrest these folks for more run-of-the-mill offenses like Public Intoxication on a Friday night and find that they are carrying a couple grand in cash because they just got paid.
Link Posted: 5/21/2005 6:38:37 AM EDT
Thanks for the info natez. I figured most don't have real estate, yet they have vehicles and cash money on them. Fining the industries that employ them would work better, yet there should be some loss from their personal gain of coming here illegally.
Link Posted: 5/21/2005 7:01:17 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Fourays2:
better still seize the assets of employers who knowing they are illegals still employ them.



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