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Posted: 12/26/2008 7:59:20 AM EST
My property taxes will be going up this year I'm sure. So I can feel their pain.

Work hard, plan right, and get punished by being forced to pay for those who won't better themselves. Get ready for it, the Messiah will soon be reaching deeply in to our pockets to fund the "Underprivileged" here.


Labour planning secret tax on 'nice houses'
Millions of middle-class home owners living in desirable neighbourhoods are facing higher council tax bills after the next election following a secret Government exercise to assess the "niceness" of different areas.

By Robert Winnett, Deputy Political Editor
Last Updated: 11:33AM GMT 26 Dec 2008

Cities are being divided up under the new tax plans, with desirable neighbourhoods being charged higher rates. Tories plan to publish a dossier on the system today.
Tax inspectors have divided England into 10,000 new "localities" with each neighbourhood ranked on the socio-economic class of its residents and environmental factors such as crime and traffic levels.

The inspectors have even purchased demographic data disclosing how many company executives, pensioners or students live in particular streets, The Daily Telegraph has learned.

This has been collated on a secret database which is being used to assess the desirability of neighbourhoods to help determine council tax bills if Labour wins power again at the next election.

The Conservatives have branded the proposal "a nice neighbourhood tax" which will penalise middle class families struggling to cope with the economic downturn. It is feared the revaluation will quickly be implemented if Labour wins the next election to help fund the growing deficit in Britain's public finances.

A revaluation of council tax bills is considered politically explosive and has already been delayed once amid widespread fears that it would be used to increase taxes.

Each of the 22 million properties in England is currently placed into one of eight council tax bands, depending on its value. These valuations are based on property prices of the early 1990s, long before the property market boom. Council tax bills for each band are then set by individual local authorities.

Although house prices have dipped during the recession, even the most pessimistic forecasts has them returning only to the levels of 2004 before they start to rise again.

A revaluation was due to be conducted in 2007, but was postponed until after the next election over fears that millions of families would see a significant hike in their bills. The average annual council tax bill is already almost £1,400 a year and a recent study suggested most town hall leaders were expecting above inflation increases next year.

The information seen by The Daily Telegraph however, suggests middle class home owners could be facing even more punitive council tax rises if Labour wins a fourth term.

Under the new scheme, each "locality" has been assigned a six-digit ID – known within Whitehall as a "value significant code".

The size and type of every property is then entered into the database along with its new "locality code". Each local authority is understood to have ranked the desirability of each locality within its area. This ranking is then used to help determine a property's new council tax banding.

The typical local authority has been divided into 28 different localities, with each locality covering an area of about five square miles. The new database can also be easily updated making it far more easy to conduct regular council tax revaluations.

Ministers have refused to reveal which neighbourhoods form the new localities or how they are ranked – claiming the information is "commercially sensitive". John Healey, the Local Government minister said it is "not appropriate to place this in the public domain".

The existence of the secret database has however, been uncovered by the Conservatives following a series of detailed Parliamentary questions and Freedom of Information law requests.

The Tories have obtained details of the scheme from presentations made by Government officials to interested foreign tax authorities at overseas seminars. These include maps which reveal how cities are being divided up under the new tax plans. The Tories are planning to publish a dossier on the system today.

The database is the culmination of more than six years work being conducted by the Valuation Office Agency, an arm of HM Revenue and Customs.

Last night, Eric Pickles, the Shadow Local Government Secretary, said: "The cat is out of the bag that Gordon Brown's tax inspectors are preparing for a council tax revaluation after the general election. Labour Ministers have developed a 21st century Domesday Book – carving up England's towns and villages into anonymous 'localities' for taxation.

"Family homes in middle England which enjoy lower rates of crime, less traffic or a friendly community now face the prospect of another tax bombshell. Given the chance, there is nothing that Gordon Brown will not tax."

The secret database is markedly different from the last council tax valuation when surveyors and estate agents conducted "drive-by" valuations on individual properties.

Pressure groups last night called on the Government to release full details of the new system so that home owners are able to assess the implications for their properties.

Susie Squire, Campaign Manager at the TaxPayers' Alliance said: "What has the government got to hide? It is only fair for them to be open with taxpayers about any impending increases or reclassifications.

"Council tax has already increased by 50% over the last ten years, and any further tax hikes would be a disgrace, particularly as ordinary people continue to struggle in the credit crunch. Many pensioners and others who have owned their property over a long period may find themselves suddenly footing an unexpectedly large bill, through no fault or action of their own. It's time council tax came down, for everyone."

A spokesman for the Communities and Local Government said that there were currently no plans to change the council tax system.

"We have repeatedly made clear there will be no council tax revaluation during the lifetime of this Parliament and would not expect to consider it during the current three-year settlement for local government, even after that there would need to be clear benefits," he said.

"The Valuation Office Agency is responsible for the valuation of homes for council tax purposes and has a duty to maintain an accurate council tax valuation list. The VOA's powers have not changed since the introduction of council tax, by the previous Government, in 1993."
Link Posted: 12/26/2008 12:10:07 PM EST
unfriggenbelieveable!!! I'll bet there will be an increase in not so nice areas.
Link Posted: 12/26/2008 12:20:22 PM EST
That will teach you for doing good

That will never happen here

Oh wait, What does this say in my check?

20% for what?

And what the hell is this?

Link Posted: 12/26/2008 12:22:00 PM EST
They are making their bed. Let them sleep in it.
Link Posted: 12/26/2008 12:36:16 PM EST
It'll be coming here, boys.

Somebody's gotta pay for the bailouts.
Link Posted: 12/26/2008 12:39:37 PM EST
Just call it the white person tax and be done with it.
Link Posted: 12/26/2008 12:41:34 PM EST
Communism, making everyone equally miserable.
Link Posted: 12/26/2008 12:45:16 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/26/2008 12:45:42 PM EST by nightstalker]
It's the Window Tax, redux from 1696. Meet the old boss, same as the new boss. Freakish copy of 300 year old attack on prosperity.


The tax was introduced under the Act of Making Good the Deficiency of the Clipped Money in 1696 under King William III[1] and was designed to impose tax relative to the prosperity of the taxpayer, but without the controversy that then surrounded the idea of income tax. At that time, many people in Britain opposed income tax, on principle, because they believed that the disclosure of personal income represented an unacceptable government intrusion into private matters, and a potential threat to personal liberty.[citation needed] In fact the first British income tax was not introduced until the late 18th century and the issue remained intensely controversial well into the 19th century.
Link Posted: 12/26/2008 12:50:23 PM EST
I hate to say it but the ball is already rolling here and will continue to get worse until the backs of the middle class are broken. A couple of towns over from me they've implemented a "rain tax". Depending upon the square footage of your roof and driveway determines how much you pay for the rain tax in addition to your normal property taxes.

As crazy as all of that sounds do you think there were people protesting at town hall? Do you think there were demonstrations? Nope, the people of that town, which is a very blue collar town, just rolled over for it.

I want my America back.
Link Posted: 12/26/2008 12:55:46 PM EST
So much for being "represented" by your government.

This is the kind of crap govt can do to the people after they disarm them.

Just wait, it will get steadily worse there.

What if all the productive people pulled a John Galt and just let the non productve ones starve?
Link Posted: 12/26/2008 12:58:00 PM EST
Originally Posted By A_Free_Man:
So much for being "represented" by your government.

This is the kind of crap govt can do to the people after they disarm them.

Just wait, it will get steadily worse there.

What if all the productive people pulled a John Galt and just let the non productve ones starve?

I'm sure a majority or significant minority of the people in the anecdote from the post above your's owned firearms, and they didn't do anything. Not that a violent response would be appropriate in that situation.
Link Posted: 12/26/2008 1:04:31 PM EST
Gotta love how our governments keep punishing us for being responsible and successful, but the lazy and those who consistently fail keep getting free shit at our expense.
Link Posted: 12/26/2008 1:04:37 PM EST
Labour's quest to fuck up the country as much as they can before they're voted out of office in 2010 continues apace.
Link Posted: 12/26/2008 1:08:21 PM EST
Who is John Galt?
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