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Posted: 6/22/2011 1:10:10 PM EDT
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Fucking bullshit.
When is enough enough??? |
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Posted: 6/22/2011 1:11:05 PM EDT
[#2]
Do you have to pay up on the spot?
I generally don't have ID on me when I'm swimming. "Yes, officer, the name is Farquhar Q. McGillicudy." 
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Posted: 6/22/2011 1:11:46 PM EDT
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what, no helmets?
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Posted: 6/22/2011 1:12:12 PM EDT
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I'm moderately in favor of this. I don't like them ticketing people but if you guys lived in Washington you would see that like every week during the summer months someone drowns or has to call 911.
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Posted: 6/22/2011 1:12:21 PM EDT
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Do you have to pay up on the spot? I generally don't have ID on my when I'm swimming. "Yes, officer, the name is Farquhar Q. McGillicudy." Hugh G. Rection! |
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Posted: 6/22/2011 1:12:37 PM EDT
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Quoted: Voting "yes" were Councilmembers Larry Phillips, Joe McDermott, Bob Ferguson, Julia Patterson and Larry Gossett. Voting "no" were Lambert, Reagan Dunn, Pete von Reichbauer and Jane Hague. http://www.seattlepi.com/local/article/King-Co-requires-life-vests-for-swimmers-1432255.php I hope that Larry Phillips, Joe McDermott, Bob Ferguson, Julia Patterson and Larry Gossett lose their next election and never hold elected office again in their lives. |
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Posted: 6/22/2011 1:13:03 PM EDT
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Quoted: I'm moderately in favor of this. I don't like them ticketing people but if you guys lived in Washington you would see that like every week during the summer months someone drowns or has to call 911. ^ Part of the problem. |
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Posted: 6/22/2011 1:13:11 PM EDT
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I'm moderately in favor of this. I don't like them ticketing people but if you guys lived in Washington you would see that like every week during the summer months someone drowns or has to call 911. Then let them drown. People need to take responsibility for themselves. |
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Posted: 6/22/2011 1:14:05 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: I'm moderately in favor of this. I don't like them ticketing people but if you guys lived in Washington you would see that like every week during the summer months someone drowns or has to call 911. ^ Part of the problem. Yep. |
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Posted: 6/22/2011 1:14:50 PM EDT
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I'm moderately in favor of this. I don't like them ticketing people but if you guys lived in Washington you would see that like every week during the summer months someone drowns or has to call 911. Then let them drown. People need to take responsibility for themselves. Exactly. |
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Posted: 6/22/2011 1:15:16 PM EDT
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A bunch of high schoolers just got into danger when they floated down the Green River in innertubes and kids inflatable toys. They hit a log jam and were sucked under/through it. They got real close to drowning.
http://www.komonews.com/news/local/124318599.html |
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Posted: 6/22/2011 1:16:00 PM EDT
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Quoted: A bunch of high schoolers just got into danger when they floated down the Green River in innertubes and kids inflatable toys. They hit a log jam and were sucked under/through it. They got real close to drowning. http://www.komonews.com/news/local/124318599.html Darwin loses again? |
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Posted: 6/22/2011 1:16:30 PM EDT
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I wonder if the cooler holding my beer counts as a life preserver?
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Posted: 6/22/2011 1:16:58 PM EDT
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Quoted: I'm moderately in favor of this. I don't like them ticketing people but if you guys lived in Washington you would see that like every week during the summer months someone drowns or has to call 911. And that is somehow different than everywhere else since the beginning of time and summer itself? How have we possibly made it this far as humans without the aide of our loving nannies?  |
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Posted: 6/22/2011 1:17:10 PM EDT
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I'm moderately in favor of this. I don't like them ticketing people but if you guys lived in Washington you would see that like every week during the summer months someone drowns or has to call 911. +1 The water around here is fed mostly from glacier run off so it's cold as hell, even on the hottest summer days. While people won't look quite as "cool" for your facebook photos, the pleasantness of not having dead bodies in the water is worth it IMHO.
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Posted: 6/22/2011 1:17:19 PM EDT
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I'm moderately in favor of this. I don't like them ticketing people but if you guys lived in Washington you would see that like every week during the summer months someone drowns or has to call 911. so? |
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Posted: 6/22/2011 1:17:40 PM EDT
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A bunch of high schoolers just got into danger when they floated down the Green River in innertubes and kids inflatable toys. They hit a log jam and were sucked under/through it. They got real close to drowning. http://www.komonews.com/news/local/124318599.html so? |
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Posted: 6/22/2011 1:18:12 PM EDT
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I'm moderately in favor of this. I don't like them ticketing people but if you guys lived in Washington you would see that like every week during the summer months someone drowns or has to call 911. So what's your point? 
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Posted: 6/22/2011 1:18:23 PM EDT
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Some governing bodies behave like the Brady Bunch would if you asked them 'what guns should be legal?' They have no clue what they are talking about and will use the opportunity to flex their legislative muscles.
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Posted: 6/22/2011 1:18:35 PM EDT
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A bunch of high schoolers just got into danger when they floated down the Green River in innertubes and kids inflatable toys. They hit a log jam and were sucked under/through it. They got real close to drowning. http://www.komonews.com/news/local/124318599.html Meh. I went through lions mouth on the green river on my head. Used to go swimming in that river all the time. |
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Posted: 6/22/2011 1:18:37 PM EDT
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I'm moderately in favor of this. I don't like them ticketing people but if you guys lived in Washington you would see that like every week during the summer months someone drowns or has to call 911. Every day, someone dies in car wrecks. We can prevent this by banning travel in cars. |
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Posted: 6/22/2011 1:18:59 PM EDT
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No more triathlons in king county
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Posted: 6/22/2011 1:20:02 PM EDT
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I'm moderately in favor of this. I don't like them ticketing people but if you guys lived in Washington you would see that like every week during the summer months someone drowns or has to call 911. +1 The water around here is fed mostly from glacier run off so it's cold as hell, even on the hottest summer days. While people won't look quite as "cool" for your facebook photos, the pleasantness of not having dead bodies in the water is worth it IMHO. Please don't leave your house. Something could happen and you could die. Oh wait, you could die at home to. WTF ya gonna do, nanny state lover? |
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Posted: 6/22/2011 1:20:57 PM EDT
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I find it how some of you internet badass's can say "darwin wins" or who cares. Perhaps you should volunteer yourself to call the parents of the kids that die every year. I guarantee you once you see a mother and father react to the news that their son or daughter has died you would think differently. Ask me how I know tough guy.
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Posted: 6/22/2011 1:21:53 PM EDT
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Please remember. This is Martin Luther King County.
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Posted: 6/22/2011 1:23:34 PM EDT
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Quoted: I find it how some of you internet badass's can say "darwin wins" or who cares. Perhaps you should volunteer yourself to call the parents of the kids that die every year. I guarantee you once you see a mother and father react to the news that their son or daughter has died you would think differently. Ask me how I know tough guy. My cousin drowned some years back, and a life vest would have saved him. I still don't support the law, and I don't let emotive thinking form my opinions. You do. |
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Posted: 6/22/2011 1:23:35 PM EDT
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And people are going to continue to drown on a regular basis, even with their life preserver.
Bone headed lawmakers. |
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Posted: 6/22/2011 1:23:42 PM EDT
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I'm moderately in favor of this. I don't like them ticketing people but if you guys lived in Washington you would see that like every week during the summer months someone drowns or has to call 911. person responsibility how does it work, personal responsibility doesn't make you a jerk personal responsibility turns your frown upside down, personal responsibility gives you pause while you drown (helps if you sing it) |
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Posted: 6/22/2011 1:24:34 PM EDT
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I find it how some of you internet badass's can say "darwin wins" or who cares. Perhaps you should volunteer yourself to call the parents of the kids that die every year. I guarantee you once you see a mother and father react to the news that their son or daughter has died you would think differently. Ask me how I know tough guy. Welcome to GD. We have 87 times more tough guys per square inch than the internet average. |
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Posted: 6/22/2011 1:25:16 PM EDT
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Do you have to pay up on the spot? I generally don't have ID on my when I'm swimming. "Yes, officer, the name is Farquhar Q. McGillicudy." Hugh G. Rection! Chuck U. Farley |
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Posted: 6/22/2011 1:25:43 PM EDT
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No more triathlons in king county Thats what I was thinking. But if its a USAT you have lifeguards close by so maybe. But pratice sucks tho. |
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Posted: 6/22/2011 1:27:39 PM EDT
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I'm moderately in favor of this. I don't like them ticketing people but if you guys lived in Washington you would see that like every week during the summer months someone drowns or has to call 911. ^ Part of the problem. I'm more inclined to believe voters like him ARE the problem. You don't get nanny state politicions unless you have voters who need their mama to wipe their butt. On an related note, HOW THE HECK do you swim with a flotation device on?
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Posted: 6/22/2011 1:27:52 PM EDT
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Fuck, if they were serious about it being "for everyone's safety", they'd ban booze of any form on the water. *
*don't get me wrong, I love floating the Salt with a beer in my hand, watching the idiots flash titties (god bless their enhanced hearts), but then there are the drunken males vying for the attention of the titty flashers. Many of whom do things like backflip off a cliff into shallow water. Or worse. backflip off a 30 foot cliff and land on 3 people, killing 1 (3months pregnant IIRC). And then these same mouthbreathers will jump behind the wheel after a day of sun and booze...making more work for EMS. Protip-if your 10 year old cannot swim, do not take him/her to the river on the 4th of July. By the time you notice your kid isn't right next to you, it's too late. Also, don't leave them in the car because you don't want them to drown. |
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Posted: 6/22/2011 1:28:05 PM EDT
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All the best floating is outside of King county anyways. . .
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Posted: 6/22/2011 1:30:22 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: I'm moderately in favor of this. I don't like them ticketing people but if you guys lived in Washington you would see that like every week during the summer months someone drowns or has to call 911. +1 The water around here is fed mostly from glacier run off so it's cold as hell, even on the hottest summer days. While people won't look quite as "cool" for your facebook photos, the pleasantness of not having dead bodies in the water is worth it IMHO. Quoted: I find it how some of you internet badass's can say "darwin wins" or who cares. Perhaps you should volunteer yourself to call the parents of the kids that die every year. I guarantee you once you see a mother and father react to the news that their son or daughter has died you would think differently. Ask me how I know tough guy. I think you two are in the wrong place. I swam in rivers as a kid, rivers where someone would drown every once in a while. I swam all day, often to the point that I could not swim any longer - but I did not drown because I was familiar with the river, my limitations, and was not prone to panic. How you know is inconsequential. I'm sure it sucks, as a parent, to learn that your kid is dead for any reason - but I still let my kid ride her bike on public streets and swim in rivers, lakes and oceans. What's next? Water wings for everyone at the pool? Fuck those council members and anyone, like the two of you, that would support such overbearing government intrusion into personal decisions. |
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Posted: 6/22/2011 1:30:47 PM EDT
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I find it how some of you internet badass's can say "darwin wins" or who cares. Perhaps you should volunteer yourself to call the parents of the kids that die every year. I guarantee you once you see a mother and father react to the news that their son or daughter has died you would think differently. Ask me how I know tough guy. i've been a first responder on several DOA wrecks. you know what was a constant in every single one of them? none, not a single one, was wearing a helmet or contained in a 5 point harness under a full roll cage. go fucking toot your horn for those, too... |
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Posted: 6/22/2011 1:30:59 PM EDT
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I find it how some of you internet badass's can say "darwin wins" or who cares. Perhaps you should volunteer yourself to call the parents of the kids that die every year. I guarantee you once you see a mother and father react to the news that their son or daughter has died you would think differently. Ask me how I know tough guy. google "baby drowns in bath tub" 
No bathroom should be without one. |
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Posted: 6/22/2011 1:31:35 PM EDT
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This law will most likely not be enforced. I would rather see local fire departments doing a PR campaign raising awareness for children drowning, since it is the 2nd leading cause of unintentional death among children int he state.
Some of you saying that I favor a "nanny state" let me ask you one question. Who do you think pays for all the equipment that the local fire department needs to perform rescue operations like this? Tax payers. Since this is a regular occurrence in Washington state wouldn't it make some sense to try and curb the problem instead of spending thousands of dollars every week to fish these victims out. Each one of these rescues they usually have a few boats / helicopter / police / search and rescue / few engine companies / aid car / medic unit . |
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Posted: 6/22/2011 1:33:39 PM EDT
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A bunch of high schoolers just got into danger when they floated down the Green River in innertubes and kids inflatable toys. They hit a log jam and were sucked under/through it. They got real close to drowning. http://www.komonews.com/news/local/124318599.html I would have been interested in seeing the results had they been wearing PFDs. I dont hink it would have been as pretty. |
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Posted: 6/22/2011 1:34:48 PM EDT
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Quoted: This law will most likely not be enforced. I would rather see local fire departments doing a PR campaign raising awareness for children drowning, since it is the 2nd leading cause of unintentional death among children int he state. Some of you saying that I favor a "nanny state" let me ask you one question. Who do you think pays for all the equipment that the local fire department needs to perform rescue operations like this? Tax payers. Since this is a regular occurrence in Washington state wouldn't it make some sense to try and curb the problem instead of spending thousands of dollars every week to fish these victims out. Each one of these rescues they usually have a few boats / helicopter / police / search and rescue / few engine companies / aid car / medic unit . So the local fire & police tend to over-react and that makes this a good idea? Most of the drownings I'm familiar with wouldn't have required more than two guys in a canoe to recover the body. Those police & fire people are just trying to justify their bloated budgets with responses like that. Send the local police boat out to collect the body and be done with it. |
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Posted: 6/22/2011 1:35:52 PM EDT
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I find it how some of you internet badass's can say "darwin wins" or who cares. Perhaps you should volunteer yourself to call the parents of the kids that die every year. I guarantee you once you see a mother and father react to the news that their son or daughter has died you would think differently. Ask me how I know tough guy. Why should I call the kids parents? It's not my problem. Maybe mom and dad should have taken better care of them. |
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Posted: 6/22/2011 1:36:25 PM EDT
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This law will most likely not be enforced. I would rather see local fire departments doing a PR campaign raising awareness for children drowning, since it is the 2nd leading cause of unintentional death among children int he state. Some of you saying that I favor a "nanny state" let me ask you one question. Who do you think pays for all the equipment that the local fire department needs to perform rescue operations like this? Tax payers. Since this is a regular occurrence in Washington state wouldn't it make some sense to try and curb the problem instead of spending thousands of dollars every week to fish these victims out. Each one of these rescues they usually have a few boats / helicopter / police / search and rescue / few engine companies / aid car / medic unit . so floaties, much like eliminating the "gunshow loophole" is gonna fix everything? |
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Posted: 6/22/2011 1:40:48 PM EDT
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Quoted: Please remember. This is Martin Luther King County. http://www.seattlepi.com/mediaManager/?controllerName=image&action=get&id=674624&width=628&height=471 Didn't used to be. It was originally named for William Rufus King. It was one of that <insert profanity of choice>'s Gregoire first moves to approve the name change. It was payback for all the ballot stuffing that took place in Seattle to get her elected. Seattle is the San Francisco of the PNW for those of you not familiar with it. Not quite as bad but very close. |
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Posted: 6/22/2011 1:41:21 PM EDT
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I find it how some of you internet badass's can say "darwin wins" or who cares. Perhaps you should volunteer yourself to call the parents of the kids that die every year. I guarantee you once you see a mother and father react to the news that their son or daughter has died you would think differently. Ask me how I know tough guy. Boo fucking hoo. Do you actually think you are the only one ever to be involved in a tragedy? Get over yourself. Also, post a list of activities that you participate in that others have been killed participating in so I know what to ban for your safety. 
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Posted: 6/22/2011 1:41:42 PM EDT
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I find it how some of you internet badass's can say "darwin wins" or who cares. Perhaps you should volunteer yourself to call the parents of the kids that die every year. I guarantee you once you see a mother and father react to the news that their son or daughter has died you would think differently. Ask me how I know tough guy. Why should I call the kids parents? It's not my problem. Maybe mom and dad should have taken better care of them. Sounds logical and humane! Lol you guys win I guess the solution to this issue is just to not give a fuck and worry about myself. If i kid drowns....ohhh well not my fucking problem the parents can go scoop the body out if they want. not my problem. I'm not saying this new law is going to do anything other then increase awareness. |
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Posted: 6/22/2011 1:42:09 PM EDT
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Why not a fine for going in the water? Keeping people out of the water will save lives.
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Posted: 6/22/2011 1:43:09 PM EDT
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I'm moderately in favor of this. I don't like them ticketing people but if you guys lived in Washington you would see that like every week during the summer months someone drowns or has to call 911. Every day, someone dies in car wrecks. We can prevent this by banning travel in cars. This! |
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Posted: 6/22/2011 1:50:58 PM EDT
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Quoted: I'm moderately in favor of this. I don't like them ticketing people but if you guys lived in Washington you would see that like every week during the summer months someone drowns or has to call 911. Authorities say there were 17 drowning deaths on major county rivers between 2005 and 2009. Unless summer only last one month on the planet you live on, you need to stop lying. |
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Posted: 6/22/2011 1:51:38 PM EDT
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All the best floating is outside of King county anyways. . . +1 
Whenever I float Green River, I just worry about bloated hooker corpses popping up
As to the allegation i'm an nanny state lover, no, I am not. I've seen all kinds of hilariously dumb shit go down on rivers here, and I've never. ever. seen a law enforcement official of any kind on duty near the water ways. Except for the cops that stake out the popular pickup points to write traffic tickets, of course. Given that this rule will give first time violators just a warning, the practical effect is simply more people will be aware of that that this year the rivers in WA will be extra cold, and extra strong. A couple of years back I went to the public hearing at Seattle City Council to talk smack to Mayor Greg Nickel's face (Nickels pussied out when he heard I was coming )when Seattle tried to ban concealed carry in city parks. I understand the slippery slope argument in regards to encroachment on "freedom", but ya'll should really save your energy and outrage for stuff that maters. As a public health matter, i'm failing to muster up any outrage on this story.
I'll save this thread so I can jump back in all outraged and pissed off after I get a ticket 
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Posted: 6/22/2011 1:53:11 PM EDT
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Lawyers...worse than unions
 I think...
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