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Posted: 4/18/2015 12:42:54 AM EDT

Girl shooting it was ok, but we had to push the round out. Mag blew out the bottom and covered her hand in burnt powder. Wondering what people think happened. She was a pretty new shooter only a couple of trips to the range.






Blazer aluminum.



















































Edit: changed title to Kb! rather then squib....











 

 
Link Posted: 4/18/2015 12:48:26 AM EDT
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can you take full 360 pics of the bullet and a pic of the feed ramp?
Link Posted: 4/18/2015 12:49:29 AM EDT
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Damn.
Link Posted: 4/18/2015 12:51:17 AM EDT
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Well, at least the weapon receiver did its job even if it is trashed.
Link Posted: 4/18/2015 12:57:36 AM EDT
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Nope sorry. Not my gun. They are gonna send it back to CZ with the ammo box. It was the first round she loaded to fire.

 
Link Posted: 4/18/2015 12:59:28 AM EDT
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bet you would never see that with the old Scorpion! damn all plastic guns!
Link Posted: 4/18/2015 1:00:43 AM EDT
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wolf?
Link Posted: 4/18/2015 1:01:06 AM EDT
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That's the second one of those to blow up like that on this forum.

Scary.

The last guy got his replaced by CZ at no cost.

Link Posted: 4/18/2015 1:01:17 AM EDT
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Kind of looks like the bullet set back and the rear of the case exploded on firing.
Link Posted: 4/18/2015 1:03:12 AM EDT
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DAAAYUM!  I see bullet setback, and maybe an extractor claw gouge, but I don't know how it could fire out of battery, and how the casing blew out the ass end.  Did you find the rim anywhere?  Primer cup?  Range rental gun?  Please explain to they lady that what happened is EXTREMELY rare, and she should get back in the saddle ASAP.
Link Posted: 4/18/2015 1:05:00 AM EDT
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dang.  

so that receiver is trashed?  I hope they didn't have SBR paperwork pending.
Link Posted: 4/18/2015 1:09:19 AM EDT
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Wolf? Aluminium cased AE?
Link Posted: 4/18/2015 1:10:53 AM EDT
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That's the second one of those to blow up like that on this forum.

Scary.

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I'm surprised it was CZ that replaced it since it was the ammo's fault.
Link Posted: 4/18/2015 1:12:30 AM EDT
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Bullet set back like that is why it is muy not good to clear and chamber the same round multiple time. Short rounds make good grenades.

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Link Posted: 4/18/2015 1:14:38 AM EDT
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Range rental gun. Didn't locate any additional pieces. Like I said we had to drive the round out of the barrel.





My feeling was possible bullet set back- or that the bullet came like that from the factory. She would not have noticed the difference.


 



The round in question wasn't loaded multiple times the box of ammo came off the shelf at the range.
Link Posted: 4/18/2015 1:16:57 AM EDT
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Blazer aluminium.

 
Link Posted: 4/18/2015 1:17:14 AM EDT
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Range rental gun. Didn't locate any additional pieces. Like I said we had to drive the round out of the barrel.

My feeling was possible bullet set back- or that the bullet came like that from the factory. She would not have noticed the difference.
 

The round in question wasn't loaded multiple times the box of ammo came off the shelf at the range.
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EDIT: Question answered.  Thanks for the clarification.
Link Posted: 4/18/2015 1:17:55 AM EDT
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I'm surprised that a range would allow Blazer in one of their rentals......

with so many brass cased alternatives, I don't know why anyone would shoot that shit.....

glad the shooter was ok...
Link Posted: 4/18/2015 1:21:13 AM EDT
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Wow I have ran thousands of rounds of Blazer aluminum out of my full auto Uzi with zero issues .  I do not on the other hand use them in my Mac due to how far out of battery the round is when it goes off .
Link Posted: 4/18/2015 1:21:32 AM EDT
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Hmmm. The round could have been been fired out of battery and the bullet being pushed back may have occurred while you were extracting it. Just a theory.
Link Posted: 4/18/2015 1:22:22 AM EDT
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Appears ammo related.






Sheisty clamshell receiver held up rather well.
Link Posted: 4/18/2015 1:27:41 AM EDT
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Rule #1.  Don't shoot that shit in nice guns.
Link Posted: 4/18/2015 1:28:40 AM EDT
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Hmmm. The round could have been been fired out of battery and the bullet being pushed back may have occurred while you were extracting it. Just a theory.
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And an interesting point at that. I'm not sure. It did take quite a bit of force to get the bullet and casing out.

 
Link Posted: 4/18/2015 1:35:45 AM EDT
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I have shot quite a bit of the blazer brass stuff. Never the aluminum though.
Link Posted: 4/18/2015 1:36:17 AM EDT
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You know, I was initially slightly concerned about the design of the receiver and discussed it here in the release thread, but I have to admit it looks like it held up pretty well. Concerns allayed.
Link Posted: 4/18/2015 1:48:47 AM EDT
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Make mine an MPX, thanks. You get what you pay for.
Link Posted: 4/18/2015 1:51:43 AM EDT
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And an interesting point at that. I'm not sure. It did take quite a bit of force to get the bullet and casing out.  
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Hmmm. The round could have been been fired out of battery and the bullet being pushed back may have occurred while you were extracting it. Just a theory.
And an interesting point at that. I'm not sure. It did take quite a bit of force to get the bullet and casing out.  


That's my theory as well.

Link Posted: 4/18/2015 2:04:40 AM EDT
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I have shot thousands of rounds of that 9mm Blazer without a single issue ever.  It's not shit ammo that I can tell, but it's cute how everyone jumps to conclusions.



Link Posted: 4/18/2015 2:07:23 AM EDT
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You have no idea if this is a gun or ammo problem. The MPX was literally just released. There are WAY more Evos in the wild than MPXs.
Link Posted: 4/18/2015 2:13:58 AM EDT
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squibs are some scary shit.
Link Posted: 4/18/2015 2:42:10 AM EDT
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Make mine an MPX, thanks. You get what you pay for.

  You have no idea if this is a gun or ammo problem. The MPX was literally just released. There are WAY more Evos in the wild than MPXs.


I don't need to know if it's a gun or ammo problem to know that a KB in a metal-framed gun is going to just torch the mag and not the receiver.
Link Posted: 4/18/2015 3:07:16 AM EDT
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I'll tell you what happened. That's the worst fucking ammo out there. Years ago, my brother was shooting my uncle's M1 Thompson (full auto, WWII Savage) with that ammo. Fired a burst, then started another one and got a huge blowback of gas in his face. Stopped firing immediately and they found I believe 10-12 bullets stuck in the barrel. Luckily, the Thompson is a man gun and wasn't damaged. None of us have used that ammo since.
Link Posted: 4/18/2015 3:55:10 AM EDT
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Make mine an MPX, thanks. You get what you pay for.
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Link Posted: 4/18/2015 3:56:12 AM EDT
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As if the MPX would hold up that much better.

Bad ammo, not badly designed gun.
Link Posted: 4/18/2015 4:59:44 AM EDT
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That's the second one of those to blow up like that on this forum.

Scary.

The last guy got his replaced by CZ at no cost.

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Second? Yikes! I'd likely fault the ammo but still, twice
Link Posted: 4/18/2015 5:11:30 AM EDT
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I wont touch that aluminum shit. had cases blow out in first box I tried, and one round was dented real good. just seems to fragile, Though I know it happens with other cases types sometimes.
Link Posted: 4/18/2015 6:06:35 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/18/2015 6:27:30 AM EDT
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That's not a squib
Link Posted: 4/18/2015 6:33:44 AM EDT
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That sucks.  Where I work, we've used Blazer aluminum for handgun practice ammo for years.  I personally have never had a problem with it.  The range had about half dozen squibs in the last few months and now we're switching to Federal practice ammo.  Nothing like a grenade above, but a couple of bulged barrels from sending a another round after it.  I don't know what happened with Blazer QC, but it's nit very confidence inspiring.
Link Posted: 4/18/2015 6:42:08 AM EDT
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squibs are some scary shit.

That's not a squib



that's what i thought. I thought  a squib actually made it to the barrel but was stuck in it. that looks like a case failure to me. But then again i am just a printer repairman.


Link Posted: 4/18/2015 9:36:04 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/18/2015 9:43:46 AM EDT
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I don't need to know if it's a gun or ammo problem to know that a KB in a metal-framed gun is going to just torch the mag and not the receiver.
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Make mine an MPX, thanks. You get what you pay for.

  You have no idea if this is a gun or ammo problem. The MPX was literally just released. There are WAY more Evos in the wild than MPXs.


I don't need to know if it's a gun or ammo problem to know that a KB in a metal-framed gun is going to just torch the mag and not the receiver.



Lol, why even start shit
Link Posted: 4/18/2015 10:03:52 AM EDT
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I don't need to know if it's a gun or ammo problem to know that a KB in a metal-framed gun is going to just torch the mag and not the receiver.
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Make mine an MPX, thanks. You get what you pay for.

  You have no idea if this is a gun or ammo problem. The MPX was literally just released. There are WAY more Evos in the wild than MPXs.


I don't need to know if it's a gun or ammo problem to know that a KB in a metal-framed gun is going to just torch the mag and not the receiver.


Better not shoot an AR,being an  aluminum gun.
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Link Posted: 4/18/2015 11:31:44 AM EDT
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From that picture, it looks more like wolf or wpa  ammo





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It's just the picture. she had two boxes of Blazer in her lane, and the Blazer box went with the gun to be sent to the factory.

 
Link Posted: 4/18/2015 11:33:20 AM EDT
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that's what i thought. I thought  a squib actually made it to the barrel but was stuck in it. that looks like a case failure to me. But then again i am just a printer repairman.
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squibs are some scary shit.


That's not a squib






that's what i thought. I thought  a squib actually made it to the barrel but was stuck in it. that looks like a case failure to me. But then again i am just a printer repairman.
Correct I was sloppy in my thread title.

 
Link Posted: 4/18/2015 11:39:21 AM EDT
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Kind of looks like the bullet set back and the rear of the case exploded on firing.
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This.
Link Posted: 4/18/2015 1:22:48 PM EDT
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Better not shoot an AR,being an  aluminum gun.
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Make mine an MPX, thanks. You get what you pay for.

  You have no idea if this is a gun or ammo problem. The MPX was literally just released. There are WAY more Evos in the wild than MPXs.


I don't need to know if it's a gun or ammo problem to know that a KB in a metal-framed gun is going to just torch the mag and not the receiver.


Better not shoot an AR,being an  aluminum gun.
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You're right, aluminum isn't metal.

I'm glad no one was hurt.
Link Posted: 4/18/2015 2:04:40 PM EDT
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Wow! I have used cheap blazer forever with no issues.
Link Posted: 4/18/2015 2:12:01 PM EDT
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Shit happens with all guns.
Link Posted: 4/18/2015 2:15:35 PM EDT
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Huh.  Imagine that.
Link Posted: 4/18/2015 2:19:23 PM EDT
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I see the problem - Shit blew up yo.
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