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Posted: 6/15/2017 6:03:13 AM EST
The sexagenarian rocker, estimated to be worth $300million (£235million), filed an application with the US Patent and Trademark Office last Friday (9th June) attempting to trademark ownership of the gesture.

Gene – real name Chain Witz - claims that the ‘sign of the horns’ or ‘devil horns’ originates specifically from the band’s Hotter Than Hell tour in 1974.


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I wonder what Gene will give me for horn infringement
Link Posted: 6/15/2017 6:12:27 AM EST
Jinx Dawson says she was first. Silly as fuck argument.
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Link Posted: 6/15/2017 6:24:46 AM EST
I invented the middle finger and thumbs up.

Anytime you use these you have to buy me a membership.
Link Posted: 6/15/2017 6:34:38 AM EST
Okey Dokey there Gene...

Good Luck with THAT...

Guess trying to stay "Relevant" and "In The News"... eh??
Link Posted: 6/15/2017 6:38:54 AM EST
Ronnie James Dio would disagree. He said it was something his Italian grandma used to do to them when they were kids. Gene is a great marketer though, I'll give him that.
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Hmmm. I should patent "The Shocker". I've been laying two in the pink one in the stink since 1987 and pretty sure it's my invention.
Link Posted: 6/15/2017 6:46:43 AM EST
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Originally Posted By noFoTeeneR:
Ronnie James Dio would disagree. He said it was something his Italian grandma used to do to them when they were kids. Gene is a great marketer though, I'll give him that.
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That was my thought as well.
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Originally Posted By noFoTeeneR:
Ronnie James Dio would disagree. He said it was something his Italian grandma used to do to them when they were kids. Gene is a great marketer though, I'll give him that.
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Thats what I have read
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Originally Posted By mamacujo:




That was my thought as well.
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Came to say the same 
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Originally Posted By mamacujo:
That was my thought as well.
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Originally Posted By mamacujo:
Originally Posted By noFoTeeneR:
Ronnie James Dio would disagree. He said it was something his Italian grandma used to do to them when they were kids. Gene is a great marketer though, I'll give him that.
That was my thought as well.
Same again. Is Gene running out of money or something?
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Originally Posted By noFoTeeneR:
Ronnie James Dio would disagree. He said it was something his Italian grandma used to do to them when they were kids. Gene is a great marketer though, I'll give him that.
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Thats what I have read

ETA: from the article I didnt realize groups as early as the 60's used the gesture
Link Posted: 6/15/2017 6:52:59 AM EST
Chaim Witz.... the fuck is a chain witz? sounds like a cheese snack.
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Originally Posted By noFoTeeneR:
Ronnie James Dio would disagree. He said it was something his Italian grandma used to do to them when they were kids. Gene is a great marketer though, I'll give him that.
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His personality is similar to President Trump.
Link Posted: 6/15/2017 7:00:05 AM EST


Dude, that's the Spiderman. Or, "I love you." in ASL.

This is the horns:



So fuck off already.

Link Posted: 6/15/2017 9:17:42 AM EST
Gene's version has thumbs out which is different than the gypsy evil eye ward off sign that Dio used.
Link Posted: 6/15/2017 9:24:08 AM EST
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The ‘devil horns’ in rock originated with Black Sabbath - Ozzie, Terry "Geezer" Butler, Ronny James Dio, not a joke.




Terry Butler did it back in 1971.
Link Posted: 6/15/2017 9:27:37 AM EST
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Originally Posted By hammet:
Chaim Witz.... the fuck is a chain witz? sounds like a cheese snack.
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Israeli.
Link Posted: 6/15/2017 9:33:19 AM EST
He is a colossal asshole. An entertaining asshole but an asshole nonetheless.
Link Posted: 6/15/2017 9:39:24 AM EST
I vote Dio.
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Originally Posted By BUCC_Guy:
I vote Dio.
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Yep, he's the only choice (RIP)
Link Posted: 6/15/2017 9:43:32 AM EST
(((Gene))) going after that sweet sweet trademark cash. 
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He's doing it wrong. Saw Metallica last week, nobody did it Chain's way.
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Originally Posted By mattja:
Israeli.
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Originally Posted By hammet:
Chaim Witz.... the fuck is a chain witz? sounds like a cheese snack.
Israeli.
 Some of the people in the Bible sure dodged a bullet!  Noah, Lot, Joshua........Chaim.....no no Chaim in any of the chapters.
Link Posted: 6/15/2017 9:48:15 AM EST
I always assumed they copied the horns from the Italians who have been using them for well over 2000 years to variously denote the devil and cornuto (cuckolding).

But whatever, he might as well try to trademark the middle finger.
Link Posted: 6/15/2017 9:48:49 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Balista:
The ‘devil horns’ in rock originated with Black Sabbath - Ozzie, Terry "Geezer" Butler, Ronny James Dio, not a joke.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/91/2a/a8/912aa8ff0bc2a138d69b2a6f776a106c.jpg


Terry Butler did it back in 1971.
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First user with sorta heavy music 1967
Link Posted: 6/15/2017 9:49:02 AM EST
Can't it's an old Sicilian witches hex sign...centuries old...
Link Posted: 6/15/2017 9:49:40 AM EST
Some Texans gonna be pissed.
Link Posted: 6/15/2017 9:51:52 AM EST
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Originally Posted By RayGunz2:
Some Texans gonna be pissed.
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Just gonna post that. It probably wouldn't play well at UT.

Hook 'em!! 
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Fucking retarded.
Link Posted: 6/15/2017 9:57:16 AM EST
KISS, the most over-rated band in the history of Rock n' Roll.
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Rub those fingers over your cheek and you create the 'Italian Malachio (malooch) Curse'.
Link Posted: 6/15/2017 10:02:21 AM EST
Go away Gene!

No one liked kiss then, no one likes kiss now.
Link Posted: 6/15/2017 10:02:23 AM EST
I thought stuff like that got shot down by the courts?  

I remember a big thing about it getting shot down when Paris Hilton tried to trademark "That's Hot" and they told her to piss up a tree. 
Link Posted: 6/15/2017 10:06:05 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Aimless:
Huh 
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he is a jew.

jews have horns.

duh.
Link Posted: 6/15/2017 10:11:09 AM EST
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Originally Posted By 9divdoc:
Can't it's an old Sicilian witches hex sign...centuries old...
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It's the Italian hand symbol to ward off the "evil eye".
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Originally Posted By Sylvan:


he is a jew.

jews have horns.

duh.
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Don't forget the Jew gold. They've all got it in a satchel around their neck. 
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He's a canny capitalist.
Link Posted: 6/15/2017 10:20:12 AM EST
Hang loose...I'm pointing at you
Link Posted: 6/15/2017 10:22:22 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Commurado:
KISS, the most over-rated band in the history of Rock n' Roll.
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I've been saying that for decades. The ultimate triumph of image over talent.
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Originally Posted By RarestRX:

http://mm.aiircdn.com/5/594262cc6fd7c.jpg

Dude, that's the Spiderman. Or, "I love you." in ASL.

This is the horns:

https://www.overthinkingit.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/dio_horns.jpg

So fuck off already.

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Hellen Keller was a theosophist. You do the math.
Link Posted: 6/15/2017 10:32:46 AM EST
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Originally Posted By DangerJ:
(((Gene))) going after that sweet sweet trademark cash. 
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Originally Posted By DangerJ:
(((Gene))) going after that sweet sweet trademark cash. 
You think that's bad.



http://gizmodo.com/someone-tried-to-trademark-the-term-september-11-2001-1606092222

A businessman named Moti Shniberg actually tried to trademark the term "September 11, 2001." And he wasted no time doing so — Shniberg filed his application on that very day, as the Twin Towers and Pentagon were still smoldering.
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Originally Posted By Ohio:
I've been saying that for decades. The ultimate triumph of image over talent.
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Originally Posted By Commurado:
KISS, the most over-rated band in the history of Rock n' Roll.
I've been saying that for decades. The ultimate triumph of image over talent.
I always felt the same way, even back when I was supposed to like them. I remember asking one of their concert attendees If they played any music during the show after he was going on about what they wore and were doing on stage, spitting blood, fire and so on. He didn't think it was funny
Link Posted: 6/15/2017 10:39:11 AM EST
Originally Posted By PAspeedmaster:
The sexagenarian rocker, estimated to be worth $300million (£235million), filed an application with the US Patent and Trademark Office last Friday (9th June) attempting to trademark ownership of the gesture.

Gene – real name Chain Witz - claims that the ‘sign of the horns’ or ‘devil horns’ originates specifically from the band’s Hotter Than Hell tour in 1974.

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I wonder what Gene will give me for horn infringement
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Good luck with that.

He could have done that, 30 years ago and had a case, but waiting this long it has entered into the common iconography and has been generalized.

Ask Apple how well their trademark for App worked out...

Or Beyer and Aspirin...

Or Heroin.
Link Posted: 6/15/2017 10:45:13 AM EST
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Originally Posted By noFoTeeneR:
Ronnie James Dio would disagree. He said it was something his Italian grandma used to do to them when they were kids. Gene is a great marketer though, I'll give him that.
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This....
Link Posted: 6/15/2017 11:02:08 AM EST
I'm a huge KISS fan, from back in '75.
Gene obviously didn't "invent" the horns. But he is a business man first, and saw an opportunity to make some more $$$.

He's also a HUGE Beatles and British rock fan. Not surprisingly, I wouldn't doubt that he lifted the horns from the Beatles.

1969 ... release of Yellow Submarine movie and album.



Link Posted: 6/15/2017 11:24:41 AM EST
University of Texas (Austin) has been doing the Hook 'em Horns thing since 1955.

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Originally Posted By noFoTeeneR:
Ronnie James Dio would disagree. He said it was something his Italian grandma used to do to them when they were kids. Gene is a great marketer though, I'll give him that.
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^Yup..
Link Posted: 6/15/2017 11:33:53 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Cucumbermonkey:
You think that's bad.



http://gizmodo.com/someone-tried-to-trademark-the-term-september-11-2001-1606092222

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Originally Posted By DangerJ:
(((Gene))) going after that sweet sweet trademark cash. 
You think that's bad.



http://gizmodo.com/someone-tried-to-trademark-the-term-september-11-2001-1606092222

A businessman named Moti Shniberg actually tried to trademark the term "September 11, 2001." And he wasted no time doing so — Shniberg filed his application on that very day, as the Twin Towers and Pentagon were still smoldering.


https://news.artnet.com/art-world/artist-pension-trust-founder-tried-to-trademark-september-11-2001-62657

When the World Trade Center and Pentagon were struck by airplanes on September 11, 2001 in the largest terrorist attack in US history, people around the world looked on in horror. Israeli-born tech entrepreneur Moti Shniberg, founder of the Artist Pension Trust, had a different reaction: He leapt into action to trademark the term “SEPTEMBER 11, 2001.”
If that guy ever gets savagely beat up by skinheads and jihadis, the ADL will probably go on TV the next day and end up saying "yeah, he deserved it".
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