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Posted: 2/8/2002 7:09:51 AM EST
Pat Buchanan certainly 'gets it right' in his most recent commentary to worldnetdaily.com. It concerns the apparent conflict between the Catholic Church (of which Justice Scalia is a member) and Justice Scalia's views on capital punishment. Here is the article: [size=3]Scalia v. the pope: Who's right on death penalty?[/size=3] © 2002 WorldNetDaily.com Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia certainly set the cat down among the pigeons the other day at his alma mater Georgetown University. Challenging the views of the pope and the U.S. bishops, the justice urged any Catholic judge who could not in conscience impose a death sentence to get off the bench. "[T]he choice for the judge who believes the death penalty to be immoral," said Scalia, "is resignation, rather than simply ignoring duly enacted constitutional laws and sabotaging the death penalty." Within hours of the story hitting the wires, Wolf Blitzer was on the phone. Could I come over to CNN and explain how the justice, a devout Catholic, could openly defy the teachings of his church? Delighted. For Scalia had not contradicted or defied any Catholic doctrine. Rather, it is the Holy Father and the bishops who are outside the Catholic mainstream, and at odds with Scripture, tradition and natural law. For an exposition of Catholic doctrine, one should pick up the essay by Cardinal Avery Dulles in the April issue of First Things. As Dulles notes, Catholicism has supported the death penalty for 2000 years: "In the Old Testament, the Mosaic Law specifies no less than 36 capital offenses calling for execution by stoning, burning, decapitation or strangulation. Included in the list are idolatry, magic, blasphemy, violation of the Sabbath, murder, adultery, bestiality, pederasty and incest. The death penalty was considered especially fitting as a punishment for murder, since in his covenant with Noah, God had laid down the principle, 'Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed. ...' "In the New Testament, the right of the State to put criminals to death seems to be taken for granted. ... At no point ... does Jesus deny that the State has authority to exact capital punishments. In his debates with the Pharisees, Jesus cites with approval the apparently harsh commandment, 'He who speaks evil of father or mother, let him surely die.' ... When Pilate calls attention to his authority to crucify him, Jesus points out that Pilate's power comes to him from above – that is to say from God. ... Jesus commends the good thief on the cross next to him, who has admitted that he and his fellow thief are receiving the reward of their deeds." In Christian tradition, "the Fathers and Doctors of the Church are virtually unanimous in their support for capital punishment," adds Dulles, citing St. Augustine in "The City of God": "[I]t is in no way contrary to the commandment 'Thou shalt not kill' ... for the representatives of the State's authority to put criminals to death. ..." To support the State's right to execute, St. Thomas Aquinas invoked Scripture, tradition and reason alike. - continued -
Link Posted: 2/8/2002 7:11:10 AM EST
"In the High Middle Ages and early modern times, the Holy See authorized the Inquisition to turn over heretics to the secular arm for execution," writes Dulles. "In the Papal States, the death penalty was imposed for a variety of reasons." Until 1969, Vatican City provided for the death penalty for any who might attempt to assassinate the pope. As the death penalty has been supported by the Catholic Church since the first Pentecost, whence comes this episcopal Catholic opposition? "The roots of opposition ... are not in Christianity," continues Dulles. "The mounting opposition to the death penalty in Europe since the Enlightenment has gone hand in hand with a decline in faith in eternal life. In the 19th century, the most consistent supporters of capital punishment were the Christian churches, and its most consistent opponents were groups hostile to the churches. When death came to be understood as the ultimate evil rather than as a stage on the way to eternal life, utilitarian philosophers such as Jeremy Bentham found it easy to dismiss capital punishment as 'useless annihilation.' "The movement to abolish the death penalty in formerly Christian countries may owe more to secular humanism than to deeper penetration into the gospel. When Pope John Paul declared in 1995 that, 'the direct and voluntary killing of an innocent human being is always gravely immoral,' he was careful to insert the word, 'innocent.'" As Europe has become less Christian, secular opposition to the death penalty has been imposed from above by European elites. Thus, Scalia was right about church doctrine, and right about the law. No judge morally opposed to the death penalty should sit in a capital murder case. To do so would be an act of moral arrogance and judicial nullification of democratic rule. See article at:[url]http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=26388[/url] Eric The(Hang'EmHigh!)Hun[>]:)]
Link Posted: 2/8/2002 8:12:40 AM EST
WOW! Catholics disagreeing with the Pope! Next thing you know, there will be Catholics using contraceptives and priests marrying. Oh wait... [:D] Happens in any religion. Christian denominations disagree on all sorts of things (homosexuality for example). Shiites kill Sunnis. It's nothing new. That said, given the choice of an authoritative voice between Scalia and the Pope, I choose Scalia. After reading some of his decisions, I've decided that he has pretty good view... for a papist [}:D]
Link Posted: 2/8/2002 1:48:52 PM EST
I didnt think the catholic church was "officially" 100% against the death penalty. it would seem to conflict with the view that "just" wars are ok
Link Posted: 2/8/2002 2:14:18 PM EST
I don't believe that the Pope has spoken infallibly against capital punishment. Unless he does, it is just an opinion, not an article of faith.
Link Posted: 2/11/2002 6:55:12 AM EST
Perhaps this will clarify somewhat. It's from the [i]Catechism of the Catholic Church[/i] which is the official catechism put out by the Vatican. Neither Scalia nor the pope are wrong.
2267 Assuming that the guilty party's identity and responsibility have been fully determined, the traditional teaching of the Church does not exclude recourse to the death penalty, if this is the only possible way of effectively defending human lives against the unjust aggressor. If, however, non-lethal means are sufficient to defend and protect people's safety from the aggressor, authority will limit itself to such means, as these are more in keeping with the concrete conditions of the common good and more in conformity with the dignity of the human person. Today, in fact, as a consequence of the possibilities which the state has for effectively preventing crime, by rendering one who has committed an offense incapable of doing harm - without definitively taking away from him the possibility of redeeming himself - the cases in which the execution of the offender is an absolute necessity "are very rare, if not practically non-existent."
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The death penalty is legitimate, and the pope believes that; however, the idea is to use the least amount of force necessary to protect the society, and in most industrial nations, it is possible to do just that without killing the criminal. He also believes in giving a person every chance to repent of their sins, and that happens on God's time, not ours. This leads him to seek other methods of punishment that don't end the criminal's life, giving the Holy Spirit as much opportunity to work on the criminal's heart as possible. Poodle, this is a far cry from rejecting Catholic doctrine on artificial contraception becaue a person wants to have their jollies w/o the responsibility. That's more than just disagreeing with the pope -- it's rejecting the teaching of the Church one claims to be a member of (why belong to a specific faith if you're not going to live by its teaching?). Scalia is not rejecting Catholic doctrine at all.
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