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Posted: 9/15/2009 1:28:08 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/15/2009 1:28:39 PM EST by TheKill]
And I JUST ate supper. He was up on his podium with his nose in the air and that arrogant voice telling them how great cash for clunkers was, and it was "great for the environment". I almost frigging threw up.

Funny how he has to resort to addressing a small group of union thugs to get a sound bite now.
Link Posted: 9/15/2009 1:30:45 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/15/2009 1:34:05 PM EST by gotyoursix]
Sold alot of Toyotas

It was great

Top 10 cash for clunkers purchases

Toyota Corolla
Honda Civic
Ford Focus
Toyota Camry
Hyundai Elantra
Toyota Prius
Nissan Versa
Ford Escape FWD
Honda Fit
Honda CR-V AWD
Link Posted: 9/15/2009 1:31:07 PM EST

The labor union pandering by Obama makes me sick. What has Obama done to put Americans back to work? What's that brown stuff around Obama's nose and mouth?

Link Posted: 9/15/2009 1:31:12 PM EST
maybe he meant CFC was a success for them

Link Posted: 9/15/2009 1:34:28 PM EST
Originally Posted By SkyFive:

The labor union pandering by Obama makes me sick. What has Obama done to put Americans back to work? What's that brown stuff around Obama's nose and mouth?



Pigment?

TRG
Link Posted: 9/15/2009 1:36:24 PM EST

Originally Posted By TheRedGoat:
Originally Posted By SkyFive:

The labor union pandering by Obama makes me sick. What has Obama done to put Americans back to work? What's that brown stuff around Obama's nose and mouth?



Pigment?

TRG

I think he means the crusty stuff.
Link Posted: 9/15/2009 1:37:48 PM EST
Originally Posted By gotyoursix:
Sold alot of Toyotas

It was great

Top 10 cash for clunkers purchases

Toyota Corolla
Honda Civic
Ford Focus
Toyota Camry
Hyundai Elantra
Toyota Prius
Nissan Versa
Ford Escape FWD
Honda Fit
Honda CR-V AWD


funny how GM isn't on that list.
Link Posted: 9/15/2009 1:39:26 PM EST
Originally Posted By ar10er:

Originally Posted By TheRedGoat:
Originally Posted By SkyFive:

The labor union pandering by Obama makes me sick. What has Obama done to put Americans back to work? What's that brown stuff around Obama's nose and mouth?



Pigment?

TRG

I think he means the crusty stuff.



Cum pigment?
Link Posted: 9/15/2009 1:43:42 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/15/2009 1:53:01 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/15/2009 1:54:08 PM EST by TheKill]
Originally Posted By djsmiles:
Originally Posted By gotyoursix:
Sold alot of Toyotas

It was great

Top 10 cash for clunkers purchases

Toyota Corolla
Honda Civic
Ford Focus
Toyota Camry
Hyundai Elantra
Toyota Prius
Nissan Versa
Ford Escape FWD
Honda Fit
Honda CR-V AWD


funny how GM isn't on that list.


Is this list for real? We might have another Glenn Beck/Michelle Malkin moment here. In the video I saw, he states "the Chevy Cobalt that is made here was one of the top cars sold in the program" or something very close to it..........

Unreal. Called a liar by a Congressman, fellow congresscritters want to censure the guy, Obama goes right out and blatantly lies again!
Link Posted: 9/15/2009 1:59:48 PM EST
yeah saw that as well. he is giving a speech at A&M in Texas this week for some thousand points of light crap. more of this shit all week
Link Posted: 9/15/2009 2:04:18 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/15/2009 2:23:15 PM EST by SkyFive]
Originally Posted By gotyoursix:
Sold alot of Toyotas

It was great

Top 10 cash for clunkers purchases

Toyota Corolla
Honda Civic
Ford Focus
Toyota Camry
Hyundai Elantra
Toyota Prius
Nissan Versa
Ford Escape FWD
Honda Fit
Honda CR-V AWD


Actually there are two lists circulating, Edmunds and the one above compiled from auto registrations by the goverment. It's interesting that the Edmunds list has the Ford F150 in the top 10 clunker purchases and only has two or three Asian cars.

Rank DOT
1. Toyota Corolla
2. Ford Focus
3. Honda Civic
4. Toyota Prius
5. Toyota Camry
6. Hyundai Elantra
7. Ford Escape (FWD)
8. Dodge Caliber
9. Honda Fit
10. Chevrolet Cobalt


Rank Edmunds
1. Ford Escape
2. Ford Focus
3. Jeep Patriot
4. Dodge Caliber
5. Ford F-150
6. Honda Civic
7. Chevrolet Silverado
8. Chevrolet Cobalt
9. Toyota Corolla
10. Ford Fusion


Source; Edmunds Get's It Wrong
Link Posted: 9/15/2009 2:40:03 PM EST
Ah yes, Toyota. Originally Toyoda, which means "fertile rice paddies". Until last year did not see a net loss since 1938. Produced trucks and other vehicles, some of which may have helped kill your relatives, but lets not dwell on that. May have also taken government subsidies from YOUR government long before GM took a bailout in the way of help by the US in rebuilding Japan's industries and infrastructure. But lets not dwell on that. How about Nissan nee Datsun? Nissan Heavy Industries was a key player in WWII for Japan. It's founder convicted of war crimes. Mitsubishi? Ever hear of the Zero fighter among many others? The list goes on. Suzuki, ect. Ever wonder why any of the histories of these companies start after WWII when most were founded in the 30's? Google them. Not a word said about all of the weapons made in support of an army that killed millions of CIVILIANS in China alone.

But lets not dwell on that. It was 64 years ago. A long time. Surely they've changed. The war is over.

And every time you buy their products they've won.
Link Posted: 9/15/2009 2:42:18 PM EST
The guy hasn't figured out that he has a job yet, he is still out there putting in applications.




GM
Link Posted: 9/15/2009 2:57:41 PM EST
Originally Posted By shortround:
Ah yes, Toyota. Originally Toyoda, which means "fertile rice paddies". Until last year did not see a net loss since 1938. Produced trucks and other vehicles, some of which may have helped kill your relatives, but lets not dwell on that. May have also taken government subsidies from YOUR government long before GM took a bailout in the way of help by the US in rebuilding Japan's industries and infrastructure. But lets not dwell on that. How about Nissan nee Datsun? Nissan Heavy Industries was a key player in WWII for Japan. It's founder convicted of war crimes. Mitsubishi? Ever hear of the Zero fighter among many others? The list goes on. Suzuki, ect. Ever wonder why any of the histories of these companies start after WWII when most were founded in the 30's? Google them. Not a word said about all of the weapons made in support of an army that killed millions of CIVILIANS in China alone.

But lets not dwell on that. It was 64 years ago. A long time. Surely they've changed. The war is over.

And every time you buy their products they've won.


Historically, the way we handled Japan both pre, during, and post WWII is what America used to be all about. We whupped their ass, then helped them back on their feet. They rewarded us by becoming one of the most technically sound, peace loving, and productive people in the world. The Japanese are an extremely admirable people to me.

As far as buying domestic cars - free market competition buddy. Whoever makes the best car, that appeals to me, and cheapest, wins. Spew your union protectionist propaganda elsewhere, you will find few fanboys here. Want to sell more cars compared to Japan? Make better cars, that are more appealing, cheaper. Build a better product, and cut costs while keeping quality high. The union says "we want MORE MORE MORE, then goes out and tries to guilt and bully people into buying American. FUCKING HA HA HA. Make a better more appealing vehicle cheaper and you won't have to resort to thug tactics.

Link Posted: 9/15/2009 3:01:53 PM EST
Originally Posted By TheKill:
Originally Posted By shortround:
Ah yes, Toyota. Originally Toyoda, which means "fertile rice paddies". Until last year did not see a net loss since 1938. Produced trucks and other vehicles, some of which may have helped kill your relatives, but lets not dwell on that. May have also taken government subsidies from YOUR government long before GM took a bailout in the way of help by the US in rebuilding Japan's industries and infrastructure. But lets not dwell on that. How about Nissan nee Datsun? Nissan Heavy Industries was a key player in WWII for Japan. It's founder convicted of war crimes. Mitsubishi? Ever hear of the Zero fighter among many others? The list goes on. Suzuki, ect. Ever wonder why any of the histories of these companies start after WWII when most were founded in the 30's? Google them. Not a word said about all of the weapons made in support of an army that killed millions of CIVILIANS in China alone.

But lets not dwell on that. It was 64 years ago. A long time. Surely they've changed. The war is over.

And every time you buy their products they've won.


Historically, the way we handled Japan both pre, during, and post WWII is what America used to be all about. We whupped their ass, then helped them back on their feet. They rewarded us by becoming one of the most technically sound, peace loving, and productive people in the world. The Japanese are an extremely admirable people to me.

As far as buying domestic cars - free market competition buddy. Whoever makes the best car, that appeals to me, and cheapest, wins. Spew your union protectionist propaganda elsewhere, you will find few fanboys here. Want to sell more cars compared to Japan? Make better cars, that are more appealing, cheaper. Build a better product, and cut costs while keeping quality high. The union says "we want MORE MORE MORE, then goes out and tries to guilt and bully people into buying American. FUCKING HA HA HA. Make a better more appealing vehicle cheaper and you won't have to resort to thug tactics.



They just switched tactics and kicked our asses by using our own idiot people against us.
Link Posted: 9/15/2009 3:28:20 PM EST
Liar !!!
Link Posted: 9/15/2009 3:29:14 PM EST
Originally Posted By gotyoursix:
Sold alot of Toyotas

It was great

Top 10 cash for clunkers purchases

Toyota Corolla
Honda Civic
Ford Focus
Toyota Camry
Hyundai Elantra
Toyota Prius
Nissan Versa
Ford Escape FWD
Honda Fit
Honda CR-V AWD


Funny...not a single damned Government Motors vehicle on the list.....

Who'da thunk it?!??!?!
Link Posted: 9/15/2009 3:33:21 PM EST
Originally Posted By shortround:
Ah yes, Toyota. Originally Toyoda, which means "fertile rice paddies". Until last year did not see a net loss since 1938. Produced trucks and other vehicles, some of which may have helped kill your relatives, but lets not dwell on that. May have also taken government subsidies from YOUR government long before GM took a bailout in the way of help by the US in rebuilding Japan's industries and infrastructure. But lets not dwell on that. How about Nissan nee Datsun? Nissan Heavy Industries was a key player in WWII for Japan. It's founder convicted of war crimes. Mitsubishi? Ever hear of the Zero fighter among many others? The list goes on. Suzuki, ect. Ever wonder why any of the histories of these companies start after WWII when most were founded in the 30's? Google them. Not a word said about all of the weapons made in support of an army that killed millions of CIVILIANS in China alone.

But lets not dwell on that. It was 64 years ago. A long time. Surely they've changed. The war is over.

And every time you buy their products they've won.


Let's see...buy Toyota products made here in America by red-blooded Americans, or buy Chevy products made by mexicans and union hacks that elect the most ardent anti-gun politicians this country has ever seen? Wow, I can't decide...I guess it must be "anti-gun supporters FTMFW"
Link Posted: 9/15/2009 3:35:20 PM EST
Originally Posted By gotyoursix:
Sold alot of Toyotas

It was great

Top 10 cash for clunkers purchases

Toyota Corolla
Honda Civic
Ford Focus
Toyota Camry
Hyundai Elantra
Toyota Prius
Nissan Versa
Ford Escape FWD
Honda Fit
Honda CR-V AWD


Hmmm...funny, I don't see any GM or Chrysler vehicles on that list. Didn't the government buyouts help at all?
Link Posted: 9/17/2009 6:15:25 AM EST
After an email I received this morning talking about the costs of the CFC program I thought how the money could have been spent more wisely (I know there are hundreds). BHO himself promised (never happened) a $3k tax incentive for businesses to hire an additional employee.source Hypothetically speaking, if the $3b CFC money went for this BHO proposal (and don't tell me this is a tax incentive rather than forward stimulus money, just work with me), and every dollar was used... that would be 1 million jobs.
Not to mention that he came out against the dangers of debt and banks giving people incentives to pile it on, and consumers for doing it - in I think his 9/14 speech -seems like the CFC was right in line...
This speach to the unions has just made more more confused about where he stands

Just a thought I had. Maybe a bad one
Link Posted: 9/17/2009 6:19:54 AM EST
Let me tell ya...
Edmunds has been suspect for awhile.
I was trying to compare some numbers maybe a year or so ago, and they weren't adding up.

It would probably be fair to say that edmunds is not a reliable source of factual info.
With this comparison brought to light I'm pretty sure they're in the bag.


Originally Posted By SkyFive:

Actually there are two lists circulating, Edmunds and the one above compiled from auto registrations by the goverment. It's interesting that the Edmunds list has the Ford F150 in the top 10 clunker purchases and only has two or three Asian cars.

Link Posted: 9/17/2009 6:33:03 AM EST
Originally Posted By TheKill:
Originally Posted By djsmiles:
Originally Posted By gotyoursix:
Sold alot of Toyotas

It was great

Top 10 cash for clunkers purchases

Toyota Corolla
Honda Civic
Ford Focus
Toyota Camry
Hyundai Elantra
Toyota Prius
Nissan Versa
Ford Escape FWD
Honda Fit
Honda CR-V AWD


funny how GM isn't on that list.


Is this list for real? We might have another Glenn Beck/Michelle Malkin moment here. In the video I saw, he states "the Chevy Cobalt that is made here was one of the top cars sold in the program" or something very close to it..........

Unreal. Called a liar by a Congressman, fellow congresscritters want to censure the guy, Obama goes right out and blatantly lies again!


Easy now, you are starting to sound like a racist!
Link Posted: 9/17/2009 6:51:16 AM EST
Originally Posted By shortround:
Ah yes, Toyota. Originally Toyoda, which means "fertile rice paddies". Until last year did not see a net loss since 1938. Produced trucks and other vehicles, some of which may have helped kill your relatives, but lets not dwell on that. May have also taken government subsidies from YOUR government long before GM took a bailout in the way of help by the US in rebuilding Japan's industries and infrastructure. But lets not dwell on that. How about Nissan nee Datsun? Nissan Heavy Industries was a key player in WWII for Japan. It's founder convicted of war crimes. Mitsubishi? Ever hear of the Zero fighter among many others? The list goes on. Suzuki, ect. Ever wonder why any of the histories of these companies start after WWII when most were founded in the 30's? Google them. Not a word said about all of the weapons made in support of an army that killed millions of CIVILIANS in China alone.

But lets not dwell on that. It was 64 years ago. A long time. Surely they've changed. The war is over.

And every time you buy their products they've won.


Do you work in the car industry?

I hope you don't drive a Mercedes, BMW or VW.
Link Posted: 9/17/2009 6:57:33 AM EST
Originally Posted By gonzo_beyondo:
Let me tell ya...
Edmunds has been suspect for awhile.
I was trying to compare some numbers maybe a year or so ago, and they weren't adding up.

It would probably be fair to say that edmunds is not a reliable source of factual info.
With this comparison brought to light I'm pretty sure they're in the bag.


Originally Posted By SkyFive:

Actually there are two lists circulating, Edmunds and the one above compiled from auto registrations by the goverment. It's interesting that the Edmunds list has the Ford F150 in the top 10 clunker purchases and only has two or three Asian cars.





You think its wrong to go based on model vs. Model divided up by drive train? Not buying it. A 4WD F-150 and a 2WD F-150 are still both F-150s no matter how you want to spin it.

I know for a fact that the Caliber sold out several times during the offer. One friend called 29 dealers who not only didn't have one, couldn't find one from MI to FLA.
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