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Posted: 9/21/2022 4:41:08 PM EDT
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I guess I should not be surprised. California investors are going into the Atlanta area, buying up properties, refurbishing the houses, and putting them on the rental market for ridiculous sums of money. They are thinking that the Californians moving there will see the price ($2500+/mo) and believe it’s a freakin’ bargain in comparison to what they had in Commiefornia.
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Posted: 9/21/2022 4:45:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What are people doing for a living to be able to pay that ? Invested in TSLA, Apple, Google, MSFT, BC, Hell, any of the FAANG stocks. + hundreds or maybe Thousands of others. You have no idea how much money was made. |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 4:47:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Walking distance (less than a mile) from the beach in Orange County. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Clients of mine had an issue with their brand new range. Upon talking to them, really nice young couple bought this "fixer upper" Single story, 3 BR 2 bath, had 'some' land for So Cal. Property was in a bidding war and this couple originally lost the bid. The winner walked into the home and said "OH HELL NO!" Floors were coming up and warped water leaking from the ceiling black mold all over the place So, guess what 2nd place bidders (my clients)... YOU WIN! you now get the home and they took it. I asked them "So may I ask what you paid for it?" and the husband said "135" ... I said "$135,000???? that is awesome!" he said "No. $1.35 million" WHAT IN THE HOLY FUCK? With a $100,000 down and 6% interest, 30 year loan... that works out to what, 10k a month? That is INSANITY!!!  Where in SoCal? Depending on location they could possibly tear the house down and sell the lot for more. So ya, they paid $1.35 mill for the lot and it happened to have a house on it, that may or may not be usable. |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 4:47:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm afraid that you are right, DrFrige. Employment compensation here has not kept up with the value of owned real estate for more than 20 years, at least in San Diego where I live. People are paying more to rent a one-bedroom apartment than I pay on the low-interest mortgage on my 4-bedroom detached house that I bought more than 25 years ago. Politicians are counting on pitting renters against homeowners, counting on the naive assumption that renters don't pay property tax. I can assure the world that every landlord figures all property-related costs into what he or she charges for rent. But a lot of people are ignorant enough to be persuaded that raising property taxes is "sticking it to the Man" and that it won't affect renters. I voted Yes on Proposition 13 back in 1978, the first election in which I was eligible to vote. My parents were politically split - Dad a New Deal Democrat and Mom an Iowa Republican, but they could both see what uncontrolled property tax increases were doing to the family budget. We all agreed on that one. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: My brother is in Milton, GA. He has no idea what his property tax is going to be year to year. I bought my house in Los Angeles County the same year for the same price. His property taxes are higher than mine. Prop 13 still works! The libs are desperately trying to destroy it. They tried (and thankfully failed) making commercial property exempt from prop 13... No fear, they WILL keep trying until they get the result they want. The libs M.O: Keep pushing that locked door over and over and over again until it cracks just a little. FOCUS on that crack until it is a hole... when it is big enough, BARGE IN AND TAKE EVERYTHING!.... I'm afraid that you are right, DrFrige. Employment compensation here has not kept up with the value of owned real estate for more than 20 years, at least in San Diego where I live. People are paying more to rent a one-bedroom apartment than I pay on the low-interest mortgage on my 4-bedroom detached house that I bought more than 25 years ago. Politicians are counting on pitting renters against homeowners, counting on the naive assumption that renters don't pay property tax. I can assure the world that every landlord figures all property-related costs into what he or she charges for rent. But a lot of people are ignorant enough to be persuaded that raising property taxes is "sticking it to the Man" and that it won't affect renters. I voted Yes on Proposition 13 back in 1978, the first election in which I was eligible to vote. My parents were politically split - Dad a New Deal Democrat and Mom an Iowa Republican, but they could both see what uncontrolled property tax increases were doing to the family budget. We all agreed on that one. Why not sell while you can, and retire in Style? Seriously, Why? |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 4:54:05 PM EDT
[#5]
Dupe. Sorry.
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Posted: 9/21/2022 4:57:13 PM EDT
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I thought that elitist cali people, would be smarter then that!! What is he going to do when the ice caps melt and half of cali is under water
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Posted: 9/21/2022 5:01:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What are people doing for a living to be able to pay that ? 
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Posted: 9/21/2022 5:03:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Many such cases. There's a whole faction of them that came here to go to school or for jobs in tech and are seriously some of the stupidest people you'll ever meet. Arrogant in their stupidity. There's something about tech workers, it's almost like they are functionally [r-word]. Most couldn't change a tire on their car if their life depended on it, but they think they can renovate the entire house themselves because they watch that show on tv. The guys. They all need testosterone shots or something. Very effeminate, even the straight ones. The neighbors at the corner bought the house over a year ago. $Mil+ The people that were there were 2 doctors starting a late family. 3 young sons. Sold the house because the dad got a good job offer in the city and didn't want to deal with the ridiculous commute. They had removed all the concrete from the back yard for a nice garden and grass, etc for the boys to play. The new people in there are in the process of replacing all the concrete. LOL They are doing all of this useless cosmetic type work, but their foundation and jacks need to be replaced. We're in a liquefaction area. The entire neighborhood is in a constant state of sinking. The jacks under the houses need to be turned once or twice a year. Almost no one actually knows they have to do this.... so most of the houses have just been sinking and once they figure out they need to fix it, the jacks are rusted too much to be functional and need to be replaced. Price range $25K-$140K to have all of that fixed. Average, $80-$100K to make it right. (All the estimates I've gotten on this house are right around the $100K mark) You're a special brand of idiot of you think you're going to DIY it. If you don't do that, no other work in the house can or will be guaranteed by the contractor. Means windows, doors, stucco, electrical, gas, plumbing, roofing, etc.... none of it will be guaranteed unless the foundation is in good working order. They are currently replacing the driveway and doing some stupid terrace thing in the front yard. All of which will be ruined to some level when the jacks and foundation get done. LOLOLOLOLOL ... and when it rains super heavy, their front yard gets hammered. Their stupid terrace whatever the hell they are doing is going to be a mess after 3 weeks of constant drizzle.... then a BIG thunderstorm. LOLOLOLOLOLOL We've been in a drought cycle since they bought the house. They are going to be nothing short of shocked when the actual rains come again. LOL They removed the big drain pipe that kept their yard from returning to the sea.... and didn't replace it.  If they didn't have an erosion study done (we're in a natural erosion plain) ... if their terrace causes a flood at the neighbors downstream (across the street), their homeowner's insurance won't cover the damage to the neighbor's house. They'll be on the hook for all of it because they didn't get the study done and get a permit. If their stupid terrace thing ends up plugging the storm drains (very possible) they have the possibility of flooding like 6-8 houses "downstream" from them..... none of which will be covered by their homeowners insurance. They are married gay tech workers. Not that there's anything wrong with that. It just ramps up the level of hilarity the whole thing is to watch. I tried to tell them all of this when they started the terrace. The one assured me they'd done their research. Oooooooh kaaaaaayyyyyy ..... then have at it.... carry on my wayward son..... Hope they enjoy their flowerssssssss. Fabuloussssss! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: TrumpWrong.jpg. Not even close. Its got some nice areas, but ~75% of the state is butt ugly, just like its residents who think because there are some movie stars walking around they must be one of the beautiful people as well. Delusion is thick there. Be interesting to see who the lender is on sh!tboxes like this and where that paper ends up now that the Fed isnt buying MBS anymore. One more thing, this "nice" young couple is dumber than a box of rocks and probably fake nice, like most in CA. Beneath the surface theyre probably all kinds of fked up and divorce and serious financial pain (for the guy at least) is in the cards. Even if they have family money, taking a massive loss will turn them into another statistic. Many such cases. There's a whole faction of them that came here to go to school or for jobs in tech and are seriously some of the stupidest people you'll ever meet. Arrogant in their stupidity. There's something about tech workers, it's almost like they are functionally [r-word]. Most couldn't change a tire on their car if their life depended on it, but they think they can renovate the entire house themselves because they watch that show on tv. The guys. They all need testosterone shots or something. Very effeminate, even the straight ones. The neighbors at the corner bought the house over a year ago. $Mil+ The people that were there were 2 doctors starting a late family. 3 young sons. Sold the house because the dad got a good job offer in the city and didn't want to deal with the ridiculous commute. They had removed all the concrete from the back yard for a nice garden and grass, etc for the boys to play. The new people in there are in the process of replacing all the concrete. LOL They are doing all of this useless cosmetic type work, but their foundation and jacks need to be replaced. We're in a liquefaction area. The entire neighborhood is in a constant state of sinking. The jacks under the houses need to be turned once or twice a year. Almost no one actually knows they have to do this.... so most of the houses have just been sinking and once they figure out they need to fix it, the jacks are rusted too much to be functional and need to be replaced. Price range $25K-$140K to have all of that fixed. Average, $80-$100K to make it right. (All the estimates I've gotten on this house are right around the $100K mark) You're a special brand of idiot of you think you're going to DIY it. If you don't do that, no other work in the house can or will be guaranteed by the contractor. Means windows, doors, stucco, electrical, gas, plumbing, roofing, etc.... none of it will be guaranteed unless the foundation is in good working order. They are currently replacing the driveway and doing some stupid terrace thing in the front yard. All of which will be ruined to some level when the jacks and foundation get done. LOLOLOLOLOL ... and when it rains super heavy, their front yard gets hammered. Their stupid terrace whatever the hell they are doing is going to be a mess after 3 weeks of constant drizzle.... then a BIG thunderstorm. LOLOLOLOLOLOL We've been in a drought cycle since they bought the house. They are going to be nothing short of shocked when the actual rains come again. LOL They removed the big drain pipe that kept their yard from returning to the sea.... and didn't replace it. If they didn't have an erosion study done (we're in a natural erosion plain) ... if their terrace causes a flood at the neighbors downstream (across the street), their homeowner's insurance won't cover the damage to the neighbor's house. They'll be on the hook for all of it because they didn't get the study done and get a permit. If their stupid terrace thing ends up plugging the storm drains (very possible) they have the possibility of flooding like 6-8 houses "downstream" from them..... none of which will be covered by their homeowners insurance. They are married gay tech workers. Not that there's anything wrong with that. It just ramps up the level of hilarity the whole thing is to watch. I tried to tell them all of this when they started the terrace. The one assured me they'd done their research. Oooooooh kaaaaaayyyyyy ..... then have at it.... carry on my wayward son..... Hope they enjoy their flowerssssssss. Fabuloussssss! Fuck em Be a shame if when that happens you accidentally tell the plaintiffs attorney that you told them all of that but they wouldn’t listen |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 5:17:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Walking distance (less than a mile) from the beach in Orange County. Other than people that like to jog outdoors, who walks to the beach? Also is someone really going to pay over a million for a house and then drag all their beach equipment a mile to the beach like poor people on vacation do? |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 5:32:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The house I came home from the hospital to in 1971. Built in 1932. My parents sold it in 1973 for $18k and they were happy to get that much. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/33962/Screenshot_20220921-125435-293_png-2534135.JPG 
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Posted: 9/21/2022 5:41:06 PM EDT
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When Covid hit and telecommuting became the norm, the Californians came flooding to Central Oregon. They could sell their $800k-$1M shitbox in the bay area and buy a pretty nice house here for less. A typical modest, 2-3 br home in town that would go for around $250k 2-3 years ago is now $500k. And rents are skyrocketing. The normal folks who grew up here and work local jobs are priced out of the market. It's sad.
We moved here 12 years ago and for $440k bought 10 acres in the country with a beautiful 3k sq ft log home. For that same price today, we'd be in a bidding war for a 800 sq ft fixer upper on a tiny lot. But it's been my experience buying 3 properties now that it's hard to lose money on real estate . . so what sounds like a stupidly high price today will be a bargain in a few short years. |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 5:42:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And our dear boy Newsom wants to be president, if he wins this would be the new normal everywhere. The people (freaks) out their in California just think he is great. No we don't! The recall election was a total scam. Even lefties hate that guy with a passion. Everyone else in the country needs to do everything in their power to make sure he never becomes the President. He will turn the entire country into the Tenderloin. |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 5:44:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fuck em Be a shame if when that happens you accidentally tell the plaintiffs attorney that you told them all of that but they wouldn’t listen I'd only do that if I was called to testify. I dislike anything to do with making lawyers rich. |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 5:46:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm just glad people that stupid are staying in California. While there are many stupid things here, the velocity of money is unmatched. |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 5:52:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why not sell while you can, and retire in Style? Seriously, Why? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: My brother is in Milton, GA. He has no idea what his property tax is going to be year to year. I bought my house in Los Angeles County the same year for the same price. His property taxes are higher than mine. Prop 13 still works! The libs are desperately trying to destroy it. They tried (and thankfully failed) making commercial property exempt from prop 13... No fear, they WILL keep trying until they get the result they want. The libs M.O: Keep pushing that locked door over and over and over again until it cracks just a little. FOCUS on that crack until it is a hole... when it is big enough, BARGE IN AND TAKE EVERYTHING!.... I'm afraid that you are right, DrFrige. Employment compensation here has not kept up with the value of owned real estate for more than 20 years, at least in San Diego where I live. People are paying more to rent a one-bedroom apartment than I pay on the low-interest mortgage on my 4-bedroom detached house that I bought more than 25 years ago. Politicians are counting on pitting renters against homeowners, counting on the naive assumption that renters don't pay property tax. I can assure the world that every landlord figures all property-related costs into what he or she charges for rent. But a lot of people are ignorant enough to be persuaded that raising property taxes is "sticking it to the Man" and that it won't affect renters. I voted Yes on Proposition 13 back in 1978, the first election in which I was eligible to vote. My parents were politically split - Dad a New Deal Democrat and Mom an Iowa Republican, but they could both see what uncontrolled property tax increases were doing to the family budget. We all agreed on that one. Why not sell while you can, and retire in Style? Seriously, Why? I have family obligations that make it impossible for me to leave the state now. There is no chance that two disabled people who I care for could relocate. And I'm retired in sufficient style anyway. I may leave some day, but now it is completely out of the question. |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 5:55:51 PM EDT
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I'd recommend people not moving to South Carolina - we get hurricanes and we have snakes and it's hot.
Stay in california and new york. It's better there. |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 5:58:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The problem with the "educated" smart people are that too many have very specific domain knowledge and falsely assume that excelling in the study of that domain automagically translates to brilliance in other areas. It does not, and thats why doctors are such an easy mark for investment advisors to give one example. I'm a math/software guy but when a guy in the trades who knows his stuff talks I'm all ears - because I might learn something, something very important. Thats why I'm a big advocate of life long learning. Turn off the idiot box, crack a book and pick a subject you know nothing about. Some of the biggest aha moments in my life came after reading books on subjects I either figured I knew (via some ethereal osmosis process I imagined) or that I didnt know existed and didnt give a damn about. The better half is a machinist by trade. I come from a background of years in construction-commercial and residential. He'll spend days measuring and ordering some specific sized screw to fix something..... and I regularly piss him off by getting frustrated and grab a screw from the garage that looks about right and drill motor that stupid thing in and call it good.  I *just* needed it not to wiggle anymore... this isn't the frikken space shuttle, ffs. He can practically build a motor to precise specs, etc.... but he absolutely sucks at any sort of home maintenance. He waaaaay over thinks all of it. He about half lost his mind when I showed him how to fix a worn out strike plate on a door. Yep.... some wood glue.... sharpened pencil and jam that thing in the hole. Little while later (if that) drill motor a slightly longer screw..... pro'lem solved. No algebra, nor slide rule required. I have a BS in Advanced Mathematics, so I get it.... but none of that precise crap works in construction. If it doesn't fit, get a bigger hammer. Residential construction is not precise.... at all. |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 6:02:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Other than people that like to jog outdoors, who walks to the beach? Also is someone really going to pay over a million for a house and then drag all their beach equipment a mile to the beach like poor people on vacation do? The food here is really good. When we do finally get out of here, I will miss how good the food is. Even the grocery store food is really good. The variety is awesome.... you just aren't going to beat that in any "affordable" place in this country. I will be an unhappy camper if the only place I can buy groceries is WalMart or the Piggly Wiggly. I am a huge fan of fresh seafood. So, living in Nebraska probably isn't for me. |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 6:05:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have family obligations that make it impossible for me to leave the state now. There is no chance that two disabled people who I care for could relocate. And I'm retired in sufficient style anyway. I may leave some day, but now it is completely out of the question. This is why we're still here. I am pushing for a vacation place somewhere out in the woods, though. We need to stay within say a 3 hour drive of Sac. That limits us to pretty much needing to stay in the state. |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 6:07:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd recommend people not moving to South Carolina - we get hurricanes and we have snakes and it's hot. Stay in california and new york. It's better there. I spent 2 months there last year. Nice place, but I was also there when the weather was pretty much perfect. I've also been there when the weather was not perfect. It's horrible. LOLOLOLOLOLOL ... and for being RIGHT THERE on the coast.... finding decent seafood that isn't heavily batter fried is really really difficult. ... though you cannot get grits like that anywhere on the west coast.... not gonna lie. |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 6:08:58 PM EDT
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https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/517-I-Ave-Coronado-CA-92118/17070760_zpid/
 $2,207 price/sqft Location 
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Posted: 9/21/2022 6:12:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryAgenda 2030 will allow all of these type houses to be mowed down and quadplexes put up in their place. That part of why a lot of foreign investors are scooping up places and not batting an eye at the cost. |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 6:13:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Walking distance (less than a mile) from the beach in Orange County. Which beach? Huntington? Newport? Corona Del Mar? Laguna? Dana Point? San Clemente? Seal Beach? Balboa? Doheny? |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 6:20:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: For now. The libs are desperately trying to destroy it. They tried (and thankfully failed) making commercial property exempt from prop 13... No fear, they WILL keep trying until they get the result they want. The libs M.O: Keep pushing that locked door over and over and over again until it cracks just a little. FOCUS on that crack until it is a hole... when it is big enough, BARGE IN AND TAKE EVERYTHING! Example: Seat belt laws. Phase 1: We are not going to pull you over for not wearing seat belts, thats just silly. We will ticket you only if you were not wearing one in an accident. Phase 2: (Holy shit we're making bank on this seat belt law) Yeah, now we can ticket in addition you if you get pulled over for something else. but we are not going to pull you over JUST for not wearing a seat belt... that's just silly. Phase 3: Fuck it, we will pull your ass over for not wearing a seat belt. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: My brother is in Milton, GA. He has no idea what his property tax is going to be year to year. I bought my house in Los Angeles County the same year for the same price. His property taxes are higher than mine. Prop 13 still works! The libs are desperately trying to destroy it. They tried (and thankfully failed) making commercial property exempt from prop 13... No fear, they WILL keep trying until they get the result they want. The libs M.O: Keep pushing that locked door over and over and over again until it cracks just a little. FOCUS on that crack until it is a hole... when it is big enough, BARGE IN AND TAKE EVERYTHING! Example: Seat belt laws. Phase 1: We are not going to pull you over for not wearing seat belts, thats just silly. We will ticket you only if you were not wearing one in an accident. Phase 2: (Holy shit we're making bank on this seat belt law) Yeah, now we can ticket in addition you if you get pulled over for something else. but we are not going to pull you over JUST for not wearing a seat belt... that's just silly. Phase 3: Fuck it, we will pull your ass over for not wearing a seat belt. Totally agree |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 6:22:37 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You sound like a Californian complaining about kids/young adults not being able to afford to buy where they grew up............. Yep….my youngest son can’t even think about finding a decent starter home anytime soon. |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 6:26:51 PM EDT
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Not all of CA. 1.3M gets you 185 acres of peaceful off grid living with 2 full houses shops barn water storage ponds River frontage etc.
Actually a bargain but the type of person interested in a property like that generally doesn't want to be in CA. |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 6:29:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Same here. Entry level homes in my subdivision are around 6-800k. You want more than 3k sqft, best cough up 7 figures. 
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Posted: 9/21/2022 6:35:09 PM EDT
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I used to want a nice little lot up a dirt road with a 2 room shack and a billion dollar view.
Now, seeing these crazy prices, I will just buy an RV and look at ALL the billion dollar views. Millions vs 150K
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Posted: 9/21/2022 6:40:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Agenda 2030 will allow all of these type houses to be mowed down and quadplexes put up in their place. That part of why a lot of foreign investors are scooping up places and not batting an eye at the cost. Quote HistoryQuoted: Agenda 2030 will allow all of these type houses to be mowed down and quadplexes put up in their place. That part of why a lot of foreign investors are scooping up places and not batting an eye at the cost. What’s agenda 2030? |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 6:43:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Having lived there for 25 years of my life, I would respectfully disagree. If it was the last choice on earth, I’d have to ask to go off planet. It is the most beautiful state in the country, but the commies have just obliterated the infrastructure and support mechanisms (roads, legal system, medical system, etc, etc…) The most beautiful state in the country? Yea umm I don’t think so. |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 6:44:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Other than people that like to jog outdoors, who walks to the beach? Also is someone really going to pay over a million for a house and then drag all their beach equipment a mile to the beach like poor people on vacation do? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Walking distance (less than a mile) from the beach in Orange County. Other than people that like to jog outdoors, who walks to the beach? Also is someone really going to pay over a million for a house and then drag all their beach equipment a mile to the beach like poor people on vacation do? Weather is the single biggest predictor of happiness in life. You can choose who you hang out with and how you spend your time, but you can’t change the weather. Objectively, Southern California has the best weather in the country. It is too bad that it is otherwise a shit show with bad laws populated by liberals. The US in general does not have a good climate. Too many cold states. Which means a lot of unhappiness. |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 6:51:29 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/21/2022 6:51:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Weather is the single biggest predictor of happiness in life. You can choose who you hang out with and how you spend your time, but you can't change the weather. Objectively, Southern California has the best weather in the country. It is too bad that it is otherwise a shit show with bad laws populated by liberals. The US in general does not have a good climate. Too many cold states. Which means a lot of unhappiness. keeps the flatlanders out.
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Posted: 9/21/2022 6:58:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: i love winter. keeps the flatlanders out. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Weather is the single biggest predictor of happiness in life. You can choose who you hang out with and how you spend your time, but you can't change the weather . Objectively, Southern California has the best weather in the country. It is too bad that it is otherwise a shit show with bad laws populated by liberals. The US in general does not have a good climate. Too many cold states. Which means a lot of unhappiness. keeps the flatlanders out. It would keep me out It’s not just the cold, though that is enough. It is the short days. There is nothing more depressing than a short cold winter day. It’s a waste of life when you only get 7-8 hours of daylight to live in. In my perfect life, I’d spend 6-7 hours inside sleeping and that would be it. |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 7:05:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The most beautiful state in the country? Yea umm I don’t think so. We have everything Montana has and then we can add coastal, desert and rain forrest. There is no doubt Montana is absolutely a jewel but putting it on top, nope. |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 7:08:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It would keep me out It's not just the cold, though that is enough. It is the short days. There is nothing more depressing than a short cold winter day. It's a waste of life when you only get 7-8 hours of daylight to live in. In my perfect life, I'd spend 6-7 hours inside sleeping and that would be it.
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Posted: 9/21/2022 7:08:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We have everything Montana has and then we can add coastal, desert and rain forrest. There is no doubt Montana is absolutely a jewel but putting it on top, nope. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The most beautiful state in the country? Yea umm I don’t think so. We have everything Montana has and then we can add coastal, desert and rain forrest. There is no doubt Montana is absolutely a jewel but putting it on top, nope. Maybe one day I’ll be a snowbird. Spend the nicest summer months somewhere beautiful like that and the winter somewhere warm with longer days. |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 7:11:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Where in SoCal? Depending on location they could possibly tear the house down and sell the lot for more. Tear the house down and drop in a single-wide. 
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Posted: 9/21/2022 10:07:42 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s like a mansion with a fast food drive through built into it. Wonder what the architect was thinking there. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: $1.35M house for sale in my area. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/33962/Screenshot_20220921-151318-292_png-2534281.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/33962/Screenshot_20220921-151401-349_png-2534282.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/33962/Screenshot_20220921-151342-657_png-2534283.JPG It’s like a mansion with a fast food drive through built into it. Wonder what the architect was thinking there. Likely took inspiration from the past. The carriage house (what some would now call a two car garage with a loft) is sited with the large doors facing an open, hard-surface area where the man servant can ready the carriage and horses, then bring them around to the covered area between the carriage house and the estate house. This allows the owner to remain inside until everything is prepared, then exit the house and board the carriage while under a roof that provides protection from weather or sun, and the carriage is pointed in the proper direction for them to leave (when they return, it will be pointed in the direction the man servant will take it to put it away, after the owner gets out and goes into the house). The fact that the attic over this boarding area is either finished, or semi-finished, (and likely used by the servants) is a bonus for the man servant, as it allows him a passage between the estate house and the carriage house, without going outside. ETA: I like it, but it needs more porch and more acreage. |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 11:10:00 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: When Covid hit and telecommuting became the norm, the Californians came flooding to Central Oregon. They could sell their $800k-$1M shitbox in the bay area and buy a pretty nice house here for less. A typical modest, 2-3 br home in town that would go for around $250k 2-3 years ago is now $500k. And rents are skyrocketing. The normal folks who grew up here and work local jobs are priced out of the market. It's sad. We moved here 12 years ago and for $440k bought 10 acres in the country with a beautiful 3k sq ft log home. For that same price today, we'd be in a bidding war for a 800 sq ft fixer upper on a tiny lot. But it's been my experience buying 3 properties now that it's hard to lose money on real estate . . so what sounds like a stupidly high price today will be a bargain in a few short years. LOL, Oregon has always been CA north, and is an absolute chit hole. I have a house there, but seriously, who wants to live there. |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 11:15:48 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The food here is really good. When we do finally get out of here, I will miss how good the food is. Even the grocery store food is really good. The variety is awesome.... you just aren't going to beat that in any "affordable" place in this country. I will be an unhappy camper if the only place I can buy groceries is WalMart or the Piggly Wiggly. I am a huge fan of fresh seafood. So, living in Nebraska probably isn't for me. Let me assure you. You will not miss it. You will wonder why you did not move a decade earlier. Food elsewhere is awesome and the variety is fantastic. Nevada has no beach but has as much variety of food and entertainment, all world class, and the weather is pretty similar to where we live in Cali. Idaho, has beaches (on the river) and has many awesome choices for food, although lack in the entertainment area, but increases in the hometown wholesome activities every single month Oregon................the food there is not as great as the other states, but the greenery and bike trails are awesome Trust me. The quality of life out of California is so much better. This coming from someone who sold their house in Pacific Grove (on the ocean) and has no regrets Not that I still don't have a house in Cali, its just not on the beach anymore |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 11:16:33 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This is why we're still here. I am pushing for a vacation place somewhere out in the woods, though. We need to stay within say a 3 hour drive of Sac. That limits us to pretty much needing to stay in the state. Reno area..........and you are within 3 hours and liberty is still there |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 11:22:31 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/21/2022 11:25:29 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Weather is the single biggest predictor of happiness in life. You can choose who you hang out with and how you spend your time, but you can’t change the weather. Objectively, Southern California has the best weather in the country. It is too bad that it is otherwise a shit show with bad laws populated by liberals. The US in general does not have a good climate. Too many cold states. Which means a lot of unhappiness. LOL, weather? Liberty trumps weather |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 11:25:39 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: the only way it could go downhill from here is if they're going to do a teardown.10 Year US Note https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/60489/10year_JPG-2534120.JPG  or if they have a variable rate loan.See that super low point on the graph about 2020 That’s me 2.25% fixed 30 year 
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Posted: 9/21/2022 11:42:21 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: LOL, weather? Liberty trumps weather Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Weather is the single biggest predictor of happiness in life. You can choose who you hang out with and how you spend your time, but you can’t change the weather. Objectively, Southern California has the best weather in the country. It is too bad that it is otherwise a shit show with bad laws populated by liberals. The US in general does not have a good climate. Too many cold states. Which means a lot of unhappiness. LOL, weather? Liberty trumps weather Sure. The choice is not really binary. Would I want to be a slave somewhere with beautiful weather? No. Would I want to live Antartica and have absolute liberty to do whatever I want because no one else is stupid enough to live there? No. Would I choose Antartica over slavery. Yeah, I suppose so. Fwiw, I don’t live in California, and I don’t live in North Dakota. That is for a reason. I do regret that we’ve just allowed liberals to have the nicest parts of the country though. |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 11:46:07 PM EDT
[#47]
Totally not a bubble bobby.
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Posted: 9/21/2022 11:48:39 PM EDT
[#48]
So glad I got my 1.9k Sq ft house on 9 acres for $225k @3.25% before rates went up.
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Posted: 9/22/2022 12:14:12 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Invested in TSLA, Apple, Google, MSFT, BC, Hell, any of the FAANG stocks. + hundreds or maybe Thousands of others. You have no idea how much money was made. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What are people doing for a living to be able to pay that ? Invested in TSLA, Apple, Google, MSFT, BC, Hell, any of the FAANG stocks. + hundreds or maybe Thousands of others. You have no idea how much money was made. Ain't that the truth! I'm working on a tax return for a software engineer who worked three days in 2021 for one of the big social media companies. For those three days, he was paid $22,500. He also received $6,616,000 in non-qualified stock options from a former employer in 2021 (after getting $2.5 million from them in 2020). He sold about 2/3rd of them during 2021 and is holding onto the rest. He was renting somewhere in the LA area, but moved to Manhattan Beach during 2022. He hasn't worked since those three days in January 2021. Instead, he's enjoying living off selling his stock options when he needs money. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 12:16:57 AM EDT
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