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Posted: 8/21/2005 11:07:53 AM EDT
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Apparently it was from some essays he wrote.
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 11:08:48 AM EDT
tag
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 11:12:53 AM EDT
tag
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 11:13:35 AM EDT
Tag.

Thanks.
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 11:16:32 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/21/2005 11:18:33 AM EDT by david_g17]
ibtl, can't be quoting people who say bad things about islam - even if they did heroic deeds for America.

source:
“Unsigned essays dealing with the Russo-Turkish War, and on Greece, written while JQA was in retirement, before his election to Congress in 1830” [Chapters X-XIV (pp. 267-402) in The American Annual Register for 1827-28-29. New York, 1830.]
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 11:19:14 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 11:36:41 AM EDT

Originally Posted By david_g17:
ibtl, can't be quoting people who say bad things about islam - even if they did heroic deeds for America.

source:
“Unsigned essays dealing with the Russo-Turkish War, and on Greece, written while JQA was in retirement, before his election to Congress in 1830” [Chapters X-XIV (pp. 267-402) in The American Annual Register for 1827-28-29. New York, 1830.]



Yeah, that Adams guy is just a troll. It's not like he was a scholar or founding father of our country. He was just stirring it up.
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 11:46:33 AM EDT

Originally Posted By PaintItBlack:

Originally Posted By david_g17:
ibtl, can't be quoting people who say bad things about islam - even if they did heroic deeds for America.

source:
“Unsigned essays dealing with the Russo-Turkish War, and on Greece, written while JQA was in retirement, before his election to Congress in 1830” [Chapters X-XIV (pp. 267-402) in The American Annual Register for 1827-28-29. New York, 1830.]



Yeah, that Adams guy is just a troll. It's not like he was a scholar or founding father of our country. He was just stirring it up.





I propose we strip this extremists name from the history books. Nay, I demand it!

There was no 6th President of the U.S.

Link Posted: 8/21/2005 11:47:57 AM EDT
tag
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 11:56:56 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 12:05:56 PM EDT

Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
Adams wan't a troll be we have a few noobs that are acting like one



I think I understand what you are trying to say, but...naw forget it...I have no clue!
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 12:13:17 PM EDT
tag ... a good read
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 12:13:56 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 12:24:06 PM EDT
Too bad Jorge does not know the same facts
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 12:30:21 PM EDT

Originally Posted By alaman:
Too bad Jorge does not know the same facts



Who is Jorge?
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 12:31:17 PM EDT

Originally Posted By dvr9:

Originally Posted By alaman:
Too bad Jorge does not know the same facts



Who is Jorge?



good one. funny
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 12:35:44 PM EDT

Originally Posted By npd233:

Originally Posted By dvr9:

Originally Posted By alaman:
Too bad Jorge does not know the same facts



Who is Jorge?



good one. funny



Seriously...who is Jorge?
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 1:11:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/21/2005 1:12:19 PM EDT by NYPatriot]
Another soon to be banned member of ARFCOM weighing in on the subject of Islam...


"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity.

The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.

Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities - but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome."



-Sir Winston Churchill (The River War, first edition, Vol. II, pages 248-50 (London: Longmans, Green & Co., 1899).


This "Churchill" fellow better watch his step, lest he hurt someone's delicate feelings & get his account locked.
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 1:16:30 PM EDT

Originally Posted By NYPatriot:
Another soon to be banned member of ARFCOM weighing in on the subject of Islam...


"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity.

The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.

Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities - but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome."



-Sir Winston Churchill (The River War, first edition, Vol. II, pages 248-50 (London: Longmans, Green & Co., 1899).


This "Churchill" fellow better watch his step, lest he hurt someone's delicate feelings & get his account locked.



Now you've gone and done it....nice knowing you.

I'll see about arranging bail.
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 1:18:32 PM EDT
Churchill was a gun nut who smoked.



BAN HIM!!!

Link Posted: 8/21/2005 1:20:41 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Merrell:
Churchill was a gun nut who smoked.



BAN HIM!!!




That cad....how un-PC can one get??
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 1:35:40 PM EDT

Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:

Originally Posted By david_g17:
ibtl, can't be quoting people who say bad things about islam - even if they did heroic deeds for America.

source:
“Unsigned essays dealing with the Russo-Turkish War, and on Greece, written while JQA was in retirement, before his election to Congress in 1830” [Chapters X-XIV (pp. 267-402) in The American Annual Register for 1827-28-29. New York, 1830.]




How can you dare to roll your eyes at that, when Aimless took the first excuse to lock my topic on this quote?


btw, the quote is referenced in Robert Spencer's new book - "The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam (and the Crusades) " - www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0895260131/ref=wl_it_dp/102-4632149-8860918?%5Fencoding=UTF8&coliid=I2DE6UMSD6PQRE&v=glance&colid=QWZ1BSZYG6VW

It's #17 on the New York Times Book List - which is laughable as hell, since the NYT is so intent on concealing the fanaticism within Islam.

And it's bouncing around near the top of Amazon's rankings list.

The American people are learning the truth about radical Islam / Islamofascism, despite the MSM's attempts to cover for it, LLLiberals knee-jerk 'all cultures are equal' - or some Ar15.com moderators attempts to stop discussion of it. - I mean WTF is with some moderators of a board about the Evil Black Rifle being Politically Correct?
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 1:37:35 PM EDT

Originally Posted By dvr9:

Originally Posted By npd233:

Originally Posted By dvr9:

Originally Posted By alaman:
Too bad Jorge does not know the same facts



Who is Jorge?



good one. funny



Seriously...who is Jorge?

It's a slanderous term for President George W. Bush, usually employed by Libertarian jackasses wrt Border / Illegal Immigration issues.
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 1:38:52 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Merrell:
Churchill was a gun nut who smoked.

godscopybook.blogs.com/gpb/images/churchill1.jpg

BAN HIM!!!


lol

Link Posted: 8/21/2005 2:30:23 PM EDT
Tag for reading, and that Churchhill pic was totally badass.
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 6:08:51 PM EDT

Originally Posted By NYPatriot:
Another soon to be banned member of ARFCOM weighing in on the subject of Islam...


"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity.

The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.

Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities - but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome."



-Sir Winston Churchill (The River War, first edition, Vol. II, pages 248-50 (London: Longmans, Green & Co., 1899).


This "Churchill" fellow better watch his step, lest he hurt someone's delicate feelings & get his account locked.



I am glad Churchill was not politically correct, and spoke the truth. He summed it up quite nicely.
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 6:16:42 PM EDT

Originally Posted By jkstexas2001:

Originally Posted By NYPatriot:
Another soon to be banned member of ARFCOM weighing in on the subject of Islam...


"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity.

The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.

Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities - but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome."



-Sir Winston Churchill (The River War, first edition, Vol. II, pages 248-50 (London: Longmans, Green & Co., 1899).


This "Churchill" fellow better watch his step, lest he hurt someone's delicate feelings & get his account locked.



I am glad Churchill was not politically correct, and spoke the truth. He summed it up quite nicely.



+1. It takes a man of conviction to take stand for what is right even if it unpopular at the time. Too bad there aren't more men like him today.
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 6:26:07 PM EDT

Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:

Originally Posted By david_g17:
ibtl, can't be quoting people who say bad things about islam - even if they did heroic deeds for America.

source:
“Unsigned essays dealing with the Russo-Turkish War, and on Greece, written while JQA was in retirement, before his election to Congress in 1830” [Chapters X-XIV (pp. 267-402) in The American Annual Register for 1827-28-29. New York, 1830.]







(that's me rolling my eyes at you rolling your eyes)
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 6:43:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/21/2005 6:44:24 PM EDT by NYPatriot]

Originally Posted By david_g17:

Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:

Originally Posted By david_g17:
ibtl, can't be quoting people who say bad things about islam - even if they did heroic deeds for America.

source:
“Unsigned essays dealing with the Russo-Turkish War, and on Greece, written while JQA was in retirement, before his election to Congress in 1830” [Chapters X-XIV (pp. 267-402) in The American Annual Register for 1827-28-29. New York, 1830.]







(that's me rolling my eyes at you rolling your eyes)



And this is me rolling my eyes because I have absolutely no idea why The_Beer_Slayer was rolling his eyes in the first place???

Was he implying that the quote is fraudulent, or false?

Inquiring minds want to know?
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 7:42:07 PM EDT
The truth is the truth. Churchill's observations are very accurate, they could have easily been written yesterday and would be just as accurate. It is too bad that so many folks have bought into political correctness. Sometimes the truth does indeed hurt feelings, but it must be told.
Link Posted: 8/22/2005 5:49:04 AM EDT
Thank goodness all the John Q Adams threads are off the front page.
Link Posted: 8/22/2005 6:12:51 AM EDT

Originally Posted By dvr9:

Originally Posted By NYPatriot:
Another soon to be banned member of ARFCOM weighing in on the subject of Islam...


"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity.

The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.

Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities - but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome."



-Sir Winston Churchill (The River War, first edition, Vol. II, pages 248-50 (London: Longmans, Green & Co., 1899).


This "Churchill" fellow better watch his step, lest he hurt someone's delicate feelings & get his account locked.



Now you've gone and done it....nice knowing you.

I'll see about arranging bail.



Arrange for mine too because that statement is a nail hit on the head.
Link Posted: 8/22/2005 7:55:55 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/22/2005 7:58:41 AM EDT by jkstexas2001]
I am sure Neville Chamberlain thought Churchill was a bit extreme in his views regarding Hitler, but he hit the nail on the head on that one, too. There are also a lot of Neville Chamberlains today, who seek to "appease" and retreat from saying the truth, because it is not "enlightened" -- Neville believed he was a very "enlightened" individual, until the bombs starting falling on Poland.
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