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Posted: 9/16/2004 4:14:23 PM EST
"Resistance to sudden violence, for the preservation not only of my person, my limbs, and life, but of my property, is an indisputable right of nature which I have never surrendered to the public by the compact of society, and which perhaps, I could not surrender if I would."

--- John Adams, Boston Gazette, Sept. 5, 1763,reprinted in 3 The Works of John Adams 438 (Charles F. Adams ed., 1851).


Our Bill of Rights does not grant rights, it preserves and guarantees pre-existing individual rights. How do we know this? The Ninth Amendment states:

"The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."

In other words, we have other rights beyond what is expressly stated in the Constitution, and the federal government is not justified in denying us those rights.



referenced

Link Posted: 9/16/2004 4:17:29 PM EST
yes and your point is?
Link Posted: 9/16/2004 4:20:17 PM EST
I have always liked
"They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
--Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759
Link Posted: 9/16/2004 4:21:45 PM EST

Originally Posted By ar50troll:
I have always liked
"They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
--Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759



I have used that one many times myself.

Link Posted: 9/16/2004 4:23:03 PM EST

Originally Posted By Palo_Duro:

Originally Posted By ar50troll:
I have always liked
"They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
--Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759



I have used that one many times myself.




Another good one from Franklin was...

" I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it."
-- Benjamin Franklin, On the Price of Corn and Management of the Poor, November 1776
Link Posted: 9/16/2004 4:27:54 PM EST

Originally Posted By ar50troll:

Originally Posted By Palo_Duro:

Originally Posted By ar50troll:
I have always liked
"They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
--Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759



I have used that one many times myself.




Another good one from Franklin was...

" I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it."
-- Benjamin Franklin, On the Price of Corn and Management of the Poor, November 1776



Do you have these memorized? If so, well done!
Link Posted: 9/16/2004 4:31:16 PM EST

Originally Posted By Palo_Duro:

Another good one from Franklin was...

" I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it."
-- Benjamin Franklin, On the Price of Corn and Management of the Poor, November 1776



Do you have these memorized? If so, well done!


Ohh no. I remember OF them from college. I have to go reference them! I wish my recall was that good!!!
Link Posted: 9/16/2004 4:36:18 PM EST
our founding fathers were the shizznizzle. what brilliant, well-spoken, and prophetic men they were.
Link Posted: 9/16/2004 5:00:04 PM EST

Originally Posted By Sierra_Hombre:
our founding fathers were the shizznizzle. what brilliant, well-spoken, and prophetic men they were.



Like the Nuge said, "...they were light years ahead of us..."

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