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7/11/2025 11:33:48 AM EDT
They just lost in district court-the state lawsuit against them for a P320 that Shakawake’d itself in a holster and sent someone to the morgue can proceed:

https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/federal-judge-issues-key-ruling-against-gun-maker-sig-sauer-widows-lawsuit
7/11/2025 11:36:42 AM EDT
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Wow…. The firm involved in suing says it represents more than 100 P320 victims.

That’s a lot. The people that have been trying to claim this was Glock Leg have some crow to eat.
7/11/2025 11:38:38 AM EDT
[#2]
I’m just here for the comments.

Hopefully everyone unloads their sigs and I can get a flux chassis on the cheap
7/11/2025 11:41:04 AM EDT
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Just glad I never got a sig.
7/11/2025 11:44:57 AM EDT
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I just hope the intent of any lawsuit against Sig is to expose some key actions, not to simply attack a firearms manufacturer. The main points will be willfully, knowingly, intentionally amongst others.
Mentioned it before, anyone at this point selling, issuing, even using and carrying one is liable in my opinion. We are only hearing about the large agencies dumping them, anyone with half a brain is making the move from an agency standpoint, a lawsuit will bankrupt a small municipal one.
7/11/2025 11:45:41 AM EDT
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Glad I’m not a fan.
7/11/2025 11:46:22 AM EDT
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FRC
7/11/2025 11:47:24 AM EDT
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7/11/2025 11:47:35 AM EDT
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7/11/2025 11:48:09 AM EDT
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100 clients from just one attorney.

I wonder how many total suits are against Sig right now.
7/11/2025 11:50:05 AM EDT
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I do hope someone in the DOD pipeline is looking into replacement of those M17/18's and review the procurement of them in the first place.
7/11/2025 11:50:12 AM EDT
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All the bad news so far has be a prelude, an appetizer, the club crackers before a trip to the salad bar.  

When the big green weenie turns on sig there will be no place to hide.
7/11/2025 11:50:56 AM EDT
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They're still fully in simp/denial mode.
7/11/2025 11:54:17 AM EDT
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Remember when we all bailed on SIG because they started using MIM parts on their P series?

Glad I own all the P-226s I own. Glad I grabbed a 2022. Glad I didn't buy anything else.

I knew when they came out with their SIG USA rifle that they were willing to make and sell smashed dogshit.
7/11/2025 11:55:57 AM EDT
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Never owned one.
Never shot one.
I don't feel like I've missed anything by not.

Jay
7/11/2025 11:56:23 AM EDT
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All the bad news so far has be a prelude, an appetizer, the club crackers before a trip to the salad bar.  

When the big green weenie turns on sig there will be no place to hide.
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Speaking of the big green weenie, is there any reports of accidental discharges in any of the DOD pistols?

I have read here about many on the civilian side but I haven’t heard any from the military.
7/11/2025 11:58:31 AM EDT
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This is going to be something else.
7/11/2025 11:59:10 AM EDT
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Speaking of the big green weenie, is there any reports of accidental discharges in any of the DOD pistols?

I have read here about many on the civilian side but I haven’t heard any from the military.
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All the bad news so far has be a prelude, an appetizer, the club crackers before a trip to the salad bar.  

When the big green weenie turns on sig there will be no place to hide.


Speaking of the big green weenie, is there any reports of accidental discharges in any of the DOD pistols?

I have read here about many on the civilian side but I haven’t heard any from the military.


Yes.  Holstered, safety on.
7/11/2025 12:00:53 PM EDT
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From the article at the link:

The firm says it represents "more than 100 P320 victims injured by Sig Sauer’s first striker-fired (in contrast to a traditional hammer) pistol" and alleges that "Sig Sauer is the only gunmaker to make a mass-produced sidearm that lacks an external safety to guard against unintended discharges."
7/11/2025 12:02:18 PM EDT
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We need a SIG P320 subforum.
7/11/2025 12:05:54 PM EDT
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Love my old hammer fired Sigs.  It is disgusting what their management has done to this once great company.
7/11/2025 12:06:21 PM EDT
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Plenty.  Check the big 320 thread.

7/11/2025 12:06:57 PM EDT
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Well, that settles it.  I'm throwing my 1975 Made in W. Germany P220 in the trash!
7/11/2025 12:09:26 PM EDT
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7/11/2025 12:11:51 PM EDT
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I was never a fan of it.
7/11/2025 12:11:57 PM EDT
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They're still fully in simp/denial mode.
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That’s a lot. The people that have been trying to claim this was Glock Leg have some crow to eat.



They're still fully in simp/denial mode.



There's a mod over at another gun forum who basically sits there with his fingers in his ears yelling "lalalala, I can't hear you!" when people bring the subject up.  I reacted to one of his posts with the laughing emoji they offer as part of their "like" button system and he gave me a warning, saying that using the laughing button to mock other members could results in suspension of posting privileges.  I told him not to bother, as I wouldn't be going back there while they had him as a mod.
7/11/2025 12:12:03 PM EDT
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From the article at the link:

The firm says it represents "more than 100 P320 victims injured by Sig Sauer’s first striker-fired (in contrast to a traditional hammer) pistol" and alleges that "Sig Sauer is the only gunmaker to make a mass-produced sidearm that lacks an external safety to guard against unintended discharges."
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They're talking about the lack of the trigger safety "dongle thing" with that statement, correct?
7/11/2025 12:15:23 PM EDT
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I love my 220, 229 Legion, and MK25.
7/11/2025 12:17:01 PM EDT
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Procurement happens with Hookers and Blow.
7/11/2025 12:18:25 PM EDT
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Until there is a definitive explanation for the discharges, no they don’t.
7/11/2025 12:19:05 PM EDT
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Manual safety fixes the problem, no?
7/11/2025 12:19:35 PM EDT
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I do hope someone in the DOD pipeline is looking into replacement of those M17/18's and review the procurement of them in the first place.

Manual safety fixes the problem, no?


No.
7/11/2025 12:21:14 PM EDT
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I want to see the testing.  Surely if a gun has fired without the trigger being pulled, that gun has been inspected, tested, and the issue can be recreated at will... right?
7/11/2025 12:23:22 PM EDT
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Think about your question.  How long was that gun in a holster before it went off in the squad room?

You can see the gun in the holster with the retention hood locked.
7/11/2025 12:24:22 PM EDT
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I do hope someone in the DOD pipeline is looking into replacement of those M17/18's and review the procurement of them in the first place.


Procurement happens with Hookers and Blow.



That and the retarded 'modular' bullshit which is solely a way to move s/n between frames, which only matters to a civilian market strapped with gun control.
7/11/2025 12:27:15 PM EDT
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I hope this doesn’t end up bankrupting SIG in Switzerland.
7/11/2025 12:29:08 PM EDT
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striker fired pistols - I don't trust any of them.
7/11/2025 12:31:27 PM EDT
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Okay gramps.  
7/11/2025 12:34:37 PM EDT
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I have an M18 because I thought it would be fun to collect all the handguns involved in the contract. (I still need the CZ Submission!)  I have it carefully sitting in it's space on the rack... Just kinda eye it every so often thinking about shooting it, but nah.  
7/11/2025 12:35:47 PM EDT
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They're talking about the lack of the trigger safety "dongle thing" with that statement, correct?
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From the article at the link:

The firm says it represents "more than 100 P320 victims injured by Sig Sauer’s first striker-fired (in contrast to a traditional hammer) pistol" and alleges that "Sig Sauer is the only gunmaker to make a mass-produced sidearm that lacks an external safety to guard against unintended discharges."



They're talking about the lack of the trigger safety "dongle thing" with that statement, correct?


It's a poorly thoughtout statement no matter how you understand it.
7/11/2025 12:35:57 PM EDT
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I don’t necessarily doubt the veracity of their claims, but I do think it would not be difficult to get a class-action or something like this together for people looking for a payday, bogus or not

7/11/2025 12:36:44 PM EDT
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Speaking of the big green weenie, is there any reports of accidental discharges in any of the DOD pistols?

I have read here about many on the civilian side but I haven’t heard any from the military.
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All the bad news so far has be a prelude, an appetizer, the club crackers before a trip to the salad bar.  

When the big green weenie turns on sig there will be no place to hide.


Speaking of the big green weenie, is there any reports of accidental discharges in any of the DOD pistols?

I have read here about many on the civilian side but I haven’t heard any from the military.



Go to the big thread and you can read about them. There have been several, even with the safety engaged.
7/11/2025 12:37:25 PM EDT
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I’m just here for the comments.

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Ordered one last week while they were $110 off
FDE was sold out, but they still had black. Mine is supposed to be here tomorrow
7/11/2025 12:38:50 PM EDT
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I own a couple Sigs but not a P320. I hope they make it through all this and the people who were injured have justice.
7/11/2025 12:40:30 PM EDT
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The FBI did.
7/11/2025 12:41:35 PM EDT
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Sig may well be in big trouble with this.
7/11/2025 12:41:36 PM EDT
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Are MIL guys carrying the pistol chambered?
7/11/2025 12:42:11 PM EDT
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Those guys are called SEG.... They've never even met the American SIG guys.
7/11/2025 12:43:03 PM EDT
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Speaking of the big green weenie, is there any reports of accidental discharges in any of the DOD pistols?

I have read here about many on the civilian side but I haven’t heard any from the military.


Are MIL guys carrying the pistol chambered?



DOD Police and Security Forces do.
7/11/2025 12:43:20 PM EDT
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I will PM my address.  My W German P226 is fantastic.
7/11/2025 12:44:26 PM EDT
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Separate companies. Sig Germany no longer exists, Sig Switzerland does as far as I know, but its a different entity than Sig USA.

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