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7/29/2016 10:54:10 PM EDT
2005 Ford Expedition, rear hatch.  Looks like typical rust bubbling but hasnt broken through anywhere and pressing on it with a fingernail it seems pretty hard so I'm not sure.

In the rust bubbling I usually see, when it gets that big, a bit of pressure and it crumbles up?




7/29/2016 10:59:22 PM EDT
[#1]
I cast a yes vote
7/29/2016 11:00:01 PM EDT
[#2]
Quality is Job 1
7/29/2016 11:00:56 PM EDT
[#3]
Kind of looks like that seam mastic or whatever it is called.
7/29/2016 11:02:15 PM EDT
[#4]
I vote glue
7/29/2016 11:02:42 PM EDT
[#5]
I've seen lots of those type vehicles with rust bubbling rear hatches. Fucked Over Rebuilt Dodge there is a reason for that.


7/29/2016 11:03:33 PM EDT
[#6]
Rust or bondo
7/29/2016 11:03:42 PM EDT
[#7]
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Kind of looks like that seam mastic or whatever it is called.
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+1

Press something sharp like a thumbtack or tip of a knife blade into it and you should be able to tell.
7/29/2016 11:03:46 PM EDT
[#8]
Aren't the hatches and good aluminum on those? They were on the 2002's at least and had a well known aluminum corrosion issue.
7/29/2016 11:09:02 PM EDT
[#9]
Looks like adhesive.
7/29/2016 11:11:57 PM EDT
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Aren't the hatches and good aluminum on those? They were on the 2002's at least and had a well known aluminum corrosion issue.
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Thats what it looks like to me too. Still a problem on current models
7/29/2016 11:12:20 PM EDT
[#11]
Shitty paint job/tape line/repair/bonds look at the rest of the paint really shitty orange peel.

That would be my bet...
7/29/2016 11:13:32 PM EDT
[#12]
That has been repainted and yes, first pic is painted over rust.
7/29/2016 11:24:19 PM EDT
[#13]
Only way to determine if it is corrosion is to scrape a bit of the paint off of the areas in question.
7/29/2016 11:24:38 PM EDT
[#14]
Ah, yes...the typical Ford paint bubbles. They've recently started on my 2013 Explorer.

7/29/2016 11:28:06 PM EDT
[#15]
05, and that's all the rust you've got?

Lol.
7/29/2016 11:36:13 PM EDT
[#16]
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That has been repainted and yes, first pic is painted over rust.
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That's what it looks like to me too.

Doesn't look like seam glue or the like at all.
7/30/2016 7:02:54 PM EDT
[#17]
I had no idea these trucks had aluminum panels, learn something new everyday!

My Olight flashlight has a magnet on the tail and wouldnt stick, so it definitely is aluminum.

Scraped the bigger patches and they flaked off to reveal white powder patches underneath.

The ones on the folds were pretty hard scrape, looks to be sealant.

No accidents all factory paint, only has 36k miles.

So its aluminum, do I need to sand and prime those areas like steel?  I'm not sure how aluminum corrodes compared to steel but I dont want to have a hole there!
7/30/2016 7:20:49 PM EDT
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I had no idea these trucks had aluminum panels, learn something new everyday!

My Olight flashlight has a magnet on the tail and wouldnt stick, so it definitely is aluminum.

Scraped the bigger patches and they flaked off to reveal white powder patches underneath.

The ones on the folds were pretty hard scrape, looks to be sealant.

No accidents all factory paint, only has 36k miles.

So its aluminum, do I need to sand and prime those areas like steel?  I'm not sure how aluminum corrodes compared to steel but I dont want to have a hole there!
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You need to clean, sand with a non iron oxide type sandpaper, prime with a self etching primer, then paint. Aluminum contaminates VERY easily, shops need to use special equipment to do it right.
7/30/2016 8:10:02 PM EDT
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2005 Ford Expedition, rear hatch.  Looks like typical rust bubbling but hasnt broken through anywhere and pressing on it with a fingernail it seems pretty hard so I'm not sure.



In the rust bubbling I usually see, when it gets that big, a bit of pressure and it crumbles up?



http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff116/g300d/Mobile%20Uploads/20160728_102415_zpsqp3u1xsn.jpg



http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff116/g300d/Mobile%20Uploads/20160728_102419_zpscexfb81b.jpg

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Seam sealer or panel adhesive.



 
7/30/2016 8:25:58 PM EDT
[#20]
Vote is yes
7/30/2016 8:28:24 PM EDT
[#21]
Yes it looks like rust.
7/30/2016 8:31:19 PM EDT
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That has been repainted and yes, first pic is painted over rust.
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This.
7/30/2016 8:54:51 PM EDT
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So its aluminum, do I need to sand and prime those areas like steel?  I'm not sure how aluminum corrodes compared to steel but I dont want to have a hole there!
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Iron rust is porous and spreads quickly. Aluminum corrosion in a similar environment doesn't corrode so readily, but obviously something caused it. Remove corrosion, prime, paint, G2G.



 
7/30/2016 9:02:21 PM EDT
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Yes it looks like rust.
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This
7/30/2016 9:32:37 PM EDT
[#25]
looks to me like someone cleaned the rust off and painted over it.
 



ETA: but I guess you already found the issue
7/30/2016 10:20:22 PM EDT
[#26]
Scraped on the big patches and they peeled off easy:



Trued to scrape at the little bubbles on the seams.  Very hard and a knife hardly phased it:

7/30/2016 10:44:46 PM EDT
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I vote glue
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Looks like glue
7/30/2016 10:55:39 PM EDT
[#28]
Yeah on the seams it looks like glue/sealant.  The big bubbles look to be corrosion though.

How does aluminum corrode anyway?  Will those become pockmarked holes like on steel?
7/31/2016 2:17:53 AM EDT
[#29]
It's an 05' in rust belt.  The bottom gates on SUV's rust quick.  My 03' 4Runner was starting to do the same when I sold it this year.  Unless you're going to keep it another 10 years, why worry?
7/31/2016 2:32:51 AM EDT
[#30]
Might as well be