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Posted: 9/30/2011 12:19:31 AM EDT
There's some show on TV called "Chopped" that my wife likes and I sometimes watch with her. The premise of the show is that four non-famous chefs are given random and usually weird ingredients and then have to cook a meal using all those ingredients (plus whatever else they want). Their meals are judged by famous/successful chefs. One person is eliminated (or "chopped) after each round, eventually resulting in a winner.

On a recent show, one of the ingredients was octopus. One of the chefs, a practicing Jew, said something about how she had no experience cooking with Octopus because she tries to keep kosher and doesn't use shellfish. I just wrote that off as a religious rule that wasn't based on scientific classification. But then another contestant commented that she didn't eat octopus because she's allergic to shellfish. That made me wonder...

So is octopus considered a shellfish according to the rules of Judaism? Does it have something in it that would react with people who are allergic to shellfish?
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 12:26:56 AM EDT
Dunno about the Kosher laws, but I would bet that Octopus are classified with Mollusks for a reason...
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 12:27:27 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/30/2011 12:27:48 AM EDT by Shung]
It's a mollusk indeed. A cephalopod
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 12:31:23 AM EDT
Octopuses are Molluscs.

It goes like this

Animalia - Mollusca - Cephalopoda - Octopoda

Molluscs include tons of animals like scallops and others. Cephalopoda has squids and cuttlefish and octopus and such. Octopoda means the family of octopuses. (octopi? I dunno)

There are about 300 octopus species. They are symmetrical bilaterally which means both sides are symmetrical to each other. They have a beak, which is a nasty scary little fucking thing and I fucking hate octopuses.

They taste meh too.

Dunno about kosher.
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 12:41:41 AM EDT
Originally Posted By RifleCal30m1n00b:
Dunno about the Kosher laws, but I would bet that Octopus are classified with Mollusks for a reason...


I remember learning that they were mollusks back when I was a kid in science class. So were those contestants on the show talking out of their asses?
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 1:02:20 AM EDT
Their beak is the shell.

To bad they did not feed raw blue ringed octopi to the retarded judges.
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 1:18:43 AM EDT
Never had octopus. Squid is freakin delicious though.
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 1:20:54 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/30/2011 1:21:18 AM EDT by DanNH]
nevermind
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 2:05:53 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/30/2011 2:09:41 AM EDT by xylo]
Originally Posted By DocBull:
Their beak is the shell.

To bad they did not feed raw blue ringed octopi to the retarded judges.

I thought they had a hard part of their body(not the beak) that was considered their "shell".
Off to wiki

Edit-No hard part to their body except their beak. They do have 3 hearts though.

Link Posted: 9/30/2011 2:22:51 AM EDT
Originally Posted By xylo:
Originally Posted By DocBull:
Their beak is the shell.

To bad they did not feed raw blue ringed octopi to the retarded judges.

I thought they had a hard part of their body(not the beak) that was considered their "shell".
Off to wiki

Edit-No hard part to their body except their beak. They do have 3 hearts though.



Octopuses have no internal or external skeleton (although some species have a vestigial remnant of a shell inside their mantle), allowing them to squeeze through tight places.
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 3:41:44 AM EDT
There's two kinds of octopus.

One kind does have a hard shell and such

The other more numerous kinds has nothing hard in it besides the beak
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 3:54:10 AM EDT
Mmmmmm octopus Cooked right it's delicious! Used to have seasons stone crabbing when about every trap i hauled had one in it, they crawled in and ate every MF in the trap. Good eats! especially in spaghetti sauce.
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 11:15:17 AM EDT
Originally Posted By 36_gauge:
Octopoda means the family of octopuses. (octopi? I dunno)

Octopods.

Originally Posted By 36_gauge:
I fucking hate octopuses.



Originally Posted By 36_gauge:
Dunno about kosher.

You must be a Nazi, then.







Link Posted: 9/30/2011 11:23:59 AM EDT
Originally Posted By 36_gauge:
Octopuses are Molluscs.

It goes like this

Animalia - Mollusca - Cephalopoda - Octopoda

Molluscs include tons of animals like scallops and others. Cephalopoda has squids and cuttlefish and octopus and such. Octopoda means the family of octopuses. (octopi? I dunno)

There are about 300 octopus species. They are symmetrical bilaterally which means both sides are symmetrical to each other. They have a beak, which is a nasty scary little fucking thing and I fucking hate octopuses.

They taste meh too.

Dunno about kosher.


Octopoda IS the plural.
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 11:40:00 AM EDT

Originally Posted By RogerBall:
Originally Posted By 36_gauge:
Octopuses are Molluscs.

It goes like this

Animalia - Mollusca - Cephalopoda - Octopoda

Molluscs include tons of animals like scallops and others. Cephalopoda has squids and cuttlefish and octopus and such. Octopoda means the family of octopuses. (octopi? I dunno)

There are about 300 octopus species. They are symmetrical bilaterally which means both sides are symmetrical to each other. They have a beak, which is a nasty scary little fucking thing and I fucking hate octopuses.

They taste meh too.

Dunno about kosher.


Octopoda IS the plural.

dude, whatever. I pulled that stuff off wikipedia to help OP since I like learning new stuff too.
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 11:44:12 AM EDT
I just caught one diving yesterday and ate it. It was delicious.

I boiled it in beer and then breaded and fried the legs. Mmmmmmmmmm.
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 11:50:30 AM EDT
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 11:55:01 AM EDT
According to Jewish dietary law - octopus, crab, lobster, clam, swordfish and sturgeon are not Kosher (trayf).
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 10:30:29 PM EDT
Originally Posted By CWO:
According to Jewish dietary law - octopus, crab, lobster, clam, swordfish and sturgeon are not Kosher (trayf).


Why not swordfish and sturgeon?
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 10:38:30 PM EDT
Fish that don't have scales...meaning anything that lives in the water that doesn't have scales...aren't allowed.


No,it doesn't make much sense to the rest of us that carp are OK but catfish aren't but whatever,their silly rules are their silly rules.
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