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Posted: 10/13/2005 2:38:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/13/2005 2:40:16 PM EDT by drjarhead]
Okay, it's a little bit tongue in cheek but just a little.

He is just fucking things up royal and the only beneficiaries of his fucked up policies are this country's enemies, and other socialists.

At the rate things are going the Dems are going to walk all over us in 2006, and for sure in 2008.

4 decades of having the socialists screw the country over and now that we are in power this is it? You've just got to be shitting me.
Link Posted: 10/13/2005 2:40:25 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/13/2005 2:40:57 PM EDT
He is and always has been a YANKEE.
I've been tellin y"all this for years.
Link Posted: 10/13/2005 2:53:55 PM EDT

Originally Posted By bgcc11:
He is and always has been a YANKEE.
I've been tellin y"all this for years.



Well, I've been a yankee all my life but lived in the south for 4 years while in the Marines and married a Southern Belle. I'm now a Reb at heart.

What I don't get about all of it is why doesn't the Party rein Bush in a little. I sent a letter to my Rep this week asking basically WTF? WTF are you guys thinking? Geez.
Link Posted: 10/13/2005 3:29:31 PM EDT
No.

Lighten up guys.  There's a ton of shit ongoing now.  He is doing a good job.  
Link Posted: 10/13/2005 3:41:59 PM EDT
No.

The differences between the goals of the Democratic and Republican Aristocracies are well defined: pure socialism versus feudalism.  The end result for the average Joe/peasant will be about the same:  rule by oligarchy.

An insane adherence to 'parties' and a system specifically designed to handicap any third/fourth/etc party from joining is what is bringing supposedly parallel lines together.  Imagine if one could just run for office without having to sell your soul/principals to get funding/organization?  Instead, any mention of beliefs outside strict accepted dogma will have the Political Officers dragging you away from the debate.

There are many good people who vote in each party, usually holding their noses.

Link Posted: 10/13/2005 3:43:59 PM EDT
Wow.  You guys really hate Bush now ah?

What changed in the last months? Supreme Court? Thats really an unknown truthfully.
Link Posted: 10/13/2005 3:44:03 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Ngog_Nrythrng:
No.

The differences between the goals of the Democratic and Republican Aristocracies are well defined: pure socialism versus feudalism.  The end result for the average Joe/peasant will be about the same:  rule by oligarchy.

An insane adherence to 'parties' and a system specifically designed to handicap any third/fourth/etc party from joining is what is bringing supposedly parallel lines together.  Imagine if one could just run for office without having to sell your soul/principals to get funding/organization?  Instead, any mention of beliefs outside strict accepted dogma will have the Political Officers dragging you away from the debate.

There are many good people who vote in each party, usually holding their noses.




Listen to this man!
Link Posted: 10/13/2005 3:48:05 PM EDT

Originally Posted By jquillen1985:

Originally Posted By Ngog_Nrythrng:
No.

The differences between the goals of the Democratic and Republican Aristocracies are well defined: pure socialism versus feudalism.  The end result for the average Joe/peasant will be about the same:  rule by oligarchy.

An insane adherence to 'parties' and a system specifically designed to handicap any third/fourth/etc party from joining is what is bringing supposedly parallel lines together.  Imagine if one could just run for office without having to sell your soul/principals to get funding/organization?  Instead, any mention of beliefs outside strict accepted dogma will have the Political Officers dragging you away from the debate.

There are many good people who vote in each party, usually holding their noses.




Listen to this man!




divide and conquer. precisely why I do not align myself with political parties. reminds me of a bad farside cartoon.....
Link Posted: 10/13/2005 3:50:40 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/13/2005 5:05:10 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Ngog_Nrythrng:
No.

The differences between the goals of the Democratic and Republican Aristocracies are well defined: pure socialism versus feudalism.  The end result for the average Joe/peasant will be about the same:  rule by oligarchy.



Sure seems to be the case.
Those espousing either cause would do well to look back through history.


An insane adherence to 'parties' and a system specifically designed to handicap any third/fourth/etc party from joining is what is bringing supposedly parallel lines together.  Imagine if one could just run for office without having to sell your soul/principals to get funding/organization?


I blame the voters for that one. They should educate themselves on the candidates and their platforms, show a little civic responsibility.


 Instead, any mention of beliefs outside strict accepted dogma will have the Political Officers dragging you away from the debate.


Yeah they'd muzzle me.


There are many good people who vote in each party, usually holding their noses.




Yeah, we sure do.
Good post. I for one, don't give my allegiance to anyone other than my country but I am definitely conservative and GWB is doing things that seem destined to cause an implosion of the Republican Party. Unfortunately, that is what we are stuck with and much of the Republican base is thoroughly pissed at what he is doing. Many will not vote in the next election or two and that will hand the election to the socialists, lock, stock and barrel. In all honesty I cannot blame them as I feel the same. If this is what we can expect from Republicans than it is over.
Link Posted: 10/13/2005 5:06:18 PM EDT
I have been trying to tell you guys this for a while
Link Posted: 10/13/2005 5:07:58 PM EDT

Originally Posted By FredM:
Wow.  You guys really hate Bush now ah?

What changed in the last months? Supreme Court?

Uncontrolled spending and his open borders policy and thumbing his nose at the Minutemen.
Link Posted: 10/13/2005 5:11:02 PM EDT

Once a politician gets into office, there are no political parties for them. They are all corrupted at some point.

Republicans = stairway to hell
Democrats = express elevator to hell

The lessor of two evils is still evil.
Link Posted: 10/13/2005 5:11:26 PM EDT
In order to get power the repubs had to move towards the part of the political spectrum with the most people ... the middle ... and the bozos in the middle seem to like socialism, so that's what they get.

Unfortunately we get it too.


If he was a hardcore conservative, he wouldn't be in office.
Link Posted: 10/13/2005 5:20:59 PM EDT

Originally Posted By VTHOKIESHOOTER:

Originally Posted By FredM:
Wow.  You guys really hate Bush now ah?

What changed in the last months? Supreme Court?

Uncontrolled spending and his open borders policy and thumbing his nose at the Minutemen.


i agree with both of these negatives but they have been going on for over a year now.  Why all of the hate suddenly?
Link Posted: 10/13/2005 5:25:07 PM EDT
Anybody else hear  judge Bork today?

"Bush is fed up with the conservatives"

Says if Miers isn't confirmed he'll put up someone worse, he's pissed off that conservatives aren't supporting him like he thinks they should
Link Posted: 10/13/2005 5:25:51 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Red_Beard:
In order to get power the repubs had to move towards the part of the political spectrum with the most people ... the middle ... and the bozos in the middle seem to like socialism, so that's what they get.

Unfortunately we get it too.


If he was a hardcore conservative, he wouldn't be in office.



Agreed...I guess...Sure don't like it though and in the long run he is going to hand the entire shooting match over to the Dems. They're going to hurt us next year, that's the way I see it. And in the meantime it is doing harm to our nation. Politicians suck.
Link Posted: 10/13/2005 5:27:44 PM EDT

Originally Posted By FredM:

Originally Posted By VTHOKIESHOOTER:

Originally Posted By FredM:
Wow.  You guys really hate Bush now ah?

What changed in the last months? Supreme Court?

Uncontrolled spending and his open borders policy and thumbing his nose at the Minutemen.


i agree with both of these negatives but they have been going on for over a year now.  Why all of the hate suddenly?



Because even with plummeting approval numbers he keeps doing the shit that is pissing his base off. Hell, even some dems are sick of the border crap.
Link Posted: 10/13/2005 5:28:32 PM EDT

Originally Posted By FredM:

Originally Posted By VTHOKIESHOOTER:

Originally Posted By FredM:
Wow.  You guys really hate Bush now ah?

What changed in the last months? Supreme Court?

Uncontrolled spending and his open borders policy and thumbing his nose at the Minutemen.


i agree with both of these negatives but they have been going on for over a year now.  Why all of the hate suddenly?



I don't think it is sudden, a lot of us have been upset for a long time, some of us a lot longer than others but still.

It's just that the voices that used to TRASH anyone who criticized GWB on this board are largely silent all of a sudden, and the previously silent fence-sitters are vocalizing their newfound disappointment.
Link Posted: 10/13/2005 5:29:37 PM EDT

Originally Posted By K2QB3:
Anybody else hear  judge Bork today?

"Bush is fed up with the conservatives"

Says if Miers isn't confirmed he'll put up someone worse, he's pissed off that conservatives aren't supporting him like he thinks they should



Well, we're pissed off that is acting in a manner in opposition to the best interests of conservatives and the nation.
Link Posted: 10/13/2005 5:29:53 PM EDT

Originally Posted By FredM:

Originally Posted By VTHOKIESHOOTER:

Originally Posted By FredM:
Wow.  You guys really hate Bush now ah?

What changed in the last months? Supreme Court?

Uncontrolled spending and his open borders policy and thumbing his nose at the Minutemen.


i agree with both of these negatives but they have been going on for over a year now.  Why all of the hate suddenly?



I think I can speak for at least my wife and myself.  

We've been unhappy with GW for the last 4 years or so.

HOWEVER

Kerry?

THAT is our alternative?

GW any day.

Bottome line is the reason GW is taking heat from alot of quarters, but
the GOP will not suffer from it is that the GOP base will continue to vote
GOP, becasue we're not dumbasses like the left, and, the left can't really say
much, 'casue all thier people voted for the war.

I wouldn't be at all surprised to see the GOP take the next election.
Link Posted: 10/13/2005 5:47:14 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/13/2005 5:52:59 PM EDT

Originally Posted By -brass-:

Originally Posted By lippo:
Once a politician gets into office, there are no political parties for them. They are all corrupted at some point.

Republicans = stairway to hell
Democrats = express elevator to hell

The lessor of two evils is still evil.



Right now I would prefer the express elevator so we can fix it before our kids have to rebuild.  


Its unbelievable that Bush was the more conservative of the two GOP canidates.  Its also unbelieveable to me with the cabinet he has.  
Link Posted: 10/13/2005 5:56:30 PM EDT
The NUGE for pREZ '08!!!!!!
Link Posted: 10/13/2005 5:56:31 PM EDT

Originally Posted By K2QB3:
Anybody else hear  judge Bork today?

"Bush is fed up with the conservatives"

Says if Miers isn't confirmed he'll put up someone worse, he's pissed off that conservatives aren't supporting him like he thinks they should


If this is true,  Bush can kiss off.
Link Posted: 10/13/2005 5:58:06 PM EDT

Originally Posted By -brass-:
Right now I would prefer the express elevator so we can fix it before our kids have to rebuild.  


Plus one. If it's an inevitability, let it happen now, in my time, not my children's time.
Link Posted: 10/13/2005 5:59:20 PM EDT
He needs to stop aiming to please. He only picked Meirs because if he did not pick a woman, the Dems would clame he's a sexist pig. Almost all his policies are aimed to please the media.
Link Posted: 10/13/2005 6:03:18 PM EDT
Yes. That is why I voted for Michael Badnarik. Why on earth would I limit my choices to a man who I knew would drive this country off the cliff at 90 mph and a man who would drive this country off the cliff at 85 mph?
Link Posted: 10/13/2005 6:03:33 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Ngog_Nrythrng:
No.

The differences between the goals of the Democratic and Republican Aristocracies are well defined: pure socialism versus feudalism.  The end result for the average Joe/peasant will be about the same:  rule by oligarchy.

An insane adherence to 'parties' and a system specifically designed to handicap any third/fourth/etc party from joining is what is bringing supposedly parallel lines together.  Imagine if one could just run for office without having to sell your soul/principals to get funding/organization?  Instead, any mention of beliefs outside strict accepted dogma will have the Political Officers dragging you away from the debate.

There are many good people who vote in each party, usually holding their noses.





Bullshit.

Look at the other democracies in the world. You will note that the majority of them, under parliamentary rules, have oodles and oodles of parties. Fuck all good it does them. What makes you think we won't have tiny extremist parties getting undue influence here, as they do around the world? Would you like to trade places with Germany or Japan?

Our system works just fine. We are much better off without Consitution Party or Green Party idiots having any influence in our government.

Link Posted: 10/13/2005 6:04:21 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Melvinator2k0:
He needs to stop aiming to please. He only picked Meirs because if he did not pick a woman, the Dems would clame he's a sexist pig. Almost all his policies are aimed to please the media.



Sure seems like it.
When he started out in 2001 he seemed to do what he thought ws right. WEll not everybody loved him. So now he is trying to appease everyone and his numbers plummet. Get a clue big guy.
Link Posted: 10/13/2005 6:11:53 PM EDT

Originally Posted By drjarhead:

Originally Posted By Melvinator2k0:
He needs to stop aiming to please. He only picked Meirs because if he did not pick a woman, the Dems would clame he's a sexist pig. Almost all his policies are aimed to please the media.



Sure seems like it.
When he started out in 2001 he seemed to do what he thought ws right. WEll not everybody loved him. So now he is trying to appease everyone and his numbers plummet. Get a clue big guy.



It looked to me more like cronyism....giving his supporter the job.  AKA FEMA director.  Bush seems to value loyalty and also reward it.
Link Posted: 10/13/2005 6:16:49 PM EDT

Originally Posted By FredM:

Originally Posted By drjarhead:

Originally Posted By Melvinator2k0:
He needs to stop aiming to please. He only picked Meirs because if he did not pick a woman, the Dems would clame he's a sexist pig. Almost all his policies are aimed to please the media.



Sure seems like it.
When he started out in 2001 he seemed to do what he thought ws right. WEll not everybody loved him. So now he is trying to appease everyone and his numbers plummet. Get a clue big guy.



It looked to me more like cronyism....giving his supporter the job.  AKA FEMA director.  Bush seems to value loyalty and also reward it.



There has always been plenty of that in Washington. Doesn't make it okay but it has come to be what we expect.
Link Posted: 10/13/2005 6:21:52 PM EDT

Originally Posted By libertyforall:
Yes. That is why I voted for Michael Badnarik. Why on earth would I limit my choices to a man who I knew would drive this country off the cliff at 90 mph and a man who would drive this country off the cliff at 85 mph?



Obviously you settled for someone that doesn't even know how to drive at all
Link Posted: 10/13/2005 7:06:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/13/2005 7:10:21 PM EDT by ReelVirginian1861]
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Link Posted: 10/13/2005 7:15:02 PM EDT

Originally Posted By drjarhead:
Okay, it's a little bit tongue in cheek but just a little.

He is just fucking things up royal and the only beneficiaries of his fucked up policies are this country's enemies, and other socialists.

At the rate things are going the Dems are going to walk all over us in 2006, and for sure in 2008.

4 decades of having the socialists screw the country over and now that we are in power this is it? You've just got to be shitting me.



U.S. Gov. is growing at a rate only matched by FDR, he has never vetoed any spending, and he keeps trying to "reach out" and our civil liberties are being weakened.  The only reason I don't seriously regret ever supporting him is the alternative.  


Jackass
Link Posted: 10/13/2005 7:20:59 PM EDT
I think because he is so vilified by the Left he has to overdo everything to prove he has compassion.

1) More money to the department of education than Clinton ever dreamed of. got Ted Kennedy's no child left behind bill passed.
2) Medicare Prescriptions, the biggest addition to Medicare in decades.
3) 9/11 & Hurricane Katrina payouts, largest disaster relief in history.

No Vetoes of Congressional Pork & the War on Terrorism. I really do believe we would have spent less with Kerry since Congress and him would spend so much time fighting.

I still prefer Bush to Kerry.
Link Posted: 10/13/2005 7:58:37 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Tomislav:

Originally Posted By Ngog_Nrythrng:
No.

The differences between the goals of the Democratic and Republican Aristocracies are well defined: pure socialism versus feudalism.  The end result for the average Joe/peasant will be about the same:  rule by oligarchy.

An insane adherence to 'parties' and a system specifically designed to handicap any third/fourth/etc party from joining is what is bringing supposedly parallel lines together.  Imagine if one could just run for office without having to sell your soul/principals to get funding/organization?  Instead, any mention of beliefs outside strict accepted dogma will have the Political Officers dragging you away from the debate.

There are many good people who vote in each party, usually holding their noses.





Bullshit.

Look at the other democracies in the world. You will note that the majority of them, under parliamentary rules, have oodles and oodles of parties. Fuck all good it does them. What makes you think we won't have tiny extremist parties getting undue influence here, as they do around the world? Would you like to trade places with Germany or Japan?

Our system works just fine. We are much better off without Consitution Party or Green Party idiots having any influence in our government.



Oh yeah, God forbid the people vote for who they want to and not for who they HAVE TO. Our BS 2 party system is broken and has turned a lot of voters into apathetic dickheads. Why? Cause they dont see a difference in paper or plastic. As to "tiny extremist" parties getting undue influence, Well where is that happening? Without a majority coalition they can't rule. And guess what? if 10% of the people want "Green" Candidates then 10% it should be, Again God forbid the Gov't be representative of the peoples will. Also, Japan is a "one party" system, not a parlamentary one. They keep electing the same Party since 1955. Why just you accept that fact that your Bush boy went bust and has shown his true colors as a maniac and asshole.
Link Posted: 10/13/2005 8:00:45 PM EDT
two party idiots......
Link Posted: 10/13/2005 8:11:22 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Melvinator2k0:
The NUGE for pREZ '08!!!!!!



Count me in!

coburn
Link Posted: 10/13/2005 8:33:18 PM EDT
Bush is a bonesman! Trained in the arts of the new global agenda. Just like they all are, no representation anywere. Their all in on this socialist bullshit. The scary thing about it, is that most nations go towards socialism because their economies are in shambles, and we are heading in that direction. Can we stop it NONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONOONONONO­NOONONONONONOONOONONONONONONONONOOOOOOOOOOO!!­!!!!!!!!!
Link Posted: 10/13/2005 8:42:29 PM EDT
Why worry about 08?  If the bird flu hits like all the doomsayers it won't matter anyway.
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