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3/17/2005 12:38:26 PM EDT
http://www.nationalreview.com/thecorner/05_03_13_corner-archive.asp#058488

Thursday, March 17, 2005



IRAQ--LESSONS LEARNED [Rich Lowry ]
Here is a fascinating e-mail that is going the rounds in military circles. It is an account of a presentation given by one of the leaders of 1st Cav Div, just back from Iraq. I try to follow Iraq stuff pretty closely, but most of this I had never heard:


1. While units of the Cav served all over Iraq, he spoke mostly of Baghdad and more specifically Sadr City, the big slum on the eastern side of the Tigris River. He pointed out that Baghdad is, in geography, is about the size of Austin. Aus tin has 600,000 to 700,000 people. Baghdad has 6 to7 million people.

2. The Cav lost 28 main battle tanks. He said one of the big lessons learned is that, contrary to docterine going in, M1-A2s and Bradleys are needed, preferred and devastating in urban combat and he is going to make that point to the JCS next week while they are considering downsizing armor.

3. He showed a graph of attacks in Sadr City by month. Last Aug-Sep they were getting up to 160 attacks per week. During the last three months, the graph had flatlined at below 5 to zero per week.

4. His big point was not that they were "winning battles" to do this but that cleaning the place up, electricity, sewage, water were the key factors. He said yes they fought but after they started delivering services that the Iraqis in Sadr City had never had, the terrorist recruiting of 15 and 16 year olds came up empty.

5. The electrical "grid" is a bad, deadly joke. Said that driving down the street in a Hummv with an antenna would short out a whole block of apt. buildings. People do their own wiring and it was not uncommon for early morning patrols would find one or two people lying dead in the street, having been electrocuted trying to re-wire their own homes.

6. Said that not tending to a dead body in the Muslim culture never happens. On election day, after suicide bombers blew themselves up trying to take out polling places, voters would step up to the body lying there, spit on it, and move up in the line to vote.

7. Pointed out that we all heard from the media about the 100 Iraqis killed as they were lined up to enlist in the police and security service. What the media didn't point out was that the next day there 300 lined up in the same place.

8. Said bin Laden and Zarqawi made a HUGE mistake when bin laden went public with naming Zarqawi the "prince" of al Qaeda in Iraq. Said that what the Iraqis saw and heard was a Saudi telling a Jordanian that his job was to kill Iraqis. HUGE mistake. It was one of the biggest factors in getting Iraqis who were on the "fence" to jump off on the side of the coalition and the new gov't.

9. Said the MSM was making a big, and wrong, deal out of the religious sects. Said Iraqis are incredibly nationalistic. They are Iraqis first and then say they are Muslim but the Shi'a - Sunni thing is just not that big a deal to them.

10. After the election the Mayor of Baghdad told him that the people of the region (Middle East) are joyous and the governments are nervous.

11. Said that he did not lose a single tanker truck carrying oil and gas over the roads of Iraq. Think about that. All the attacks we saw on TV with IEDs hitting trucks but he didn't lose one. Why? Army Aviation. Praised his air units and said they made the decision early on that every convoy would have helicopter air cover. Said aviators in that unit were hitting the 1,000 hour mark (sound familiar?). Said a convoy was supposed to head out but stopped at the gates of a compound on the command of an E6. He asked the SSG what the hold up was. E6 said, "Air , sir." He wondered what was wrong with the air, not realizing what the kid was talking about. Then the AH-64s showed up and the E6 said, "That air sir." And then moved out.

12. Said one of the biggest problems was money and regs. There was a $77 million gap between the supplemental budget and what he needed in cash on the ground to get projects started. Said he spent most of his time trying to get money. Said he didn't do much as a "combat commander" because the war he was fighting was a war at the squad and platoon level. Said that his NCOs were winning the war and it was a sight to behold.

13. Said that of all the money appropriated for Iraq, not a cent was earmarked for agriculture. Said that Iraq could feed itself completely and still have food for export but no one thought about it. Said the Cav started working with Texas A&M on ag projects and had special hybrid seeds sent to them through Jordan. TAM analyzed soil samples and worked out how and what to plant. Said he had an E7 from Belton, TX (just down the road from Ft. Hood) who was almost single-handedly rebuilding the ag industry in the Baghdad area.

14. Said he could hire hundreds of Iraqis daily for $7 to $10 a day to work on sewer, electric, water projects, etc. but that the contracting rules from CONUS applied so he had to have $500,000 insurance policies in place in case the workers got hurt. Not kidding. The CONUS peacetime regs slowed everything down, even if they could eventually get waivers for the regs.

3/17/2005 12:47:39 PM EDT
[#1]
I never heard any of that on CBS.
3/17/2005 1:02:22 PM EDT
[#2]

Quoted:
I never heard any of that on CBS.



Thats because its not true if you dont hear it on CBS.I know because Dan Blather told me so,Courage!
3/17/2005 1:21:53 PM EDT
[#3]
This ties in exactly with how we find it down in the British Sector in the south…

Now how come it does not get reported?

Easy… the British Media will happily report the upbeat side of our troops presence and are generally supportive of the troops role and cover any hearts and minds work the troops are involved in.  One thing we do notice is how much the US media concentrates on the negative issues, any attack is played up as a major defeat for the coalition and a victory for the insurgents. As an 'outsider' who has access to all the major US news channels and gets to hear reports first hand from the troops in theatre, the difference between the media reports and actual reality can be quite astounding!

We have always said that we regard 90% of Iraqis as pro Coalition, 10% anti and that the 'actively' hostile Iraqis make up less than 1% of the population.

A really big difference was also the coverage of the prisoner abuse scandals. The US coverage was all hearshirt and denouncing of the US troops, whereas the British media tutted loudly and said it was naughty but soldiers will be soldiers and did not make a big deal of it.

Reading the 'situation reports' from our HQ in Basrah is very boring now… week after week of 'No incidents to report'!!

God bless ALL our troops for their outstanding work.  The feeling here now is that we are over the worst and well on course to a sucessful and democratic Iraq.

ANdy
3/17/2005 1:35:19 PM EDT
[#4]
tagged for later
3/17/2005 1:43:20 PM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
I never heard any of that on CBS.



No. Neither did I.

I guess they were busy making up BS that never happened.



-Thanks for sharing, LGB
3/17/2005 1:43:21 PM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
http://www.nationalreview.com/thecorner/05_03_13_corner-archive.asp#058488

Thursday, March 17, 2005



IRAQ--LESSONS LEARNED [Rich Lowry ]
Here is a fascinating e-mail that is going the rounds in military circles. It is an account of a presentation given by one of the leaders of 1st Cav Div, just back from Iraq. I try to follow Iraq stuff pretty closely, but most of this I had never heard:


1. While units of the Cav served all over Iraq, he spoke mostly of Baghdad and more specifically Sadr City, the big slum on the eastern side of the Tigris River. He pointed out that Baghdad is, in geography, is about the size of Austin. Aus tin has 600,000 to 700,000 people. Baghdad has 6 to7 million people.

2. The Cav lost 28 main battle tanks. He said one of the big lessons learned is that, contrary to docterine going in, M1-A2s and Bradleys are needed, preferred and devastating in urban combat and he is going to make that point to the JCS next week while they are considering downsizing armor.

3. He showed a graph of attacks in Sadr City by month. Last Aug-Sep they were getting up to 160 attacks per week. During the last three months, the graph had flatlined at below 5 to zero per week.

4. His big point was not that they were "winning battles" to do this but that cleaning the place up, electricity, sewage, water were the key factors. He said yes they fought but after they started delivering services that the Iraqis in Sadr City had never had, the terrorist recruiting of 15 and 16 year olds came up empty.

5. The electrical "grid" is a bad, deadly joke. Said that driving down the street in a Hummv with an antenna would short out a whole block of apt. buildings. People do their own wiring and it was not uncommon for early morning patrols would find one or two people lying dead in the street, having been electrocuted trying to re-wire their own homes.

6. Said that not tending to a dead body in the Muslim culture never happens. On election day, after suicide bombers blew themselves up trying to take out polling places, voters would step up to the body lying there, spit on it, and move up in the line to vote.

7. Pointed out that we all heard from the media about the 100 Iraqis killed as they were lined up to enlist in the police and security service. What the media didn't point out was that the next day there 300 lined up in the same place.

8. Said bin Laden and Zarqawi made a HUGE mistake when bin laden went public with naming Zarqawi the "prince" of al Qaeda in Iraq. Said that what the Iraqis saw and heard was a Saudi telling a Jordanian that his job was to kill Iraqis. HUGE mistake. It was one of the biggest factors in getting Iraqis who were on the "fence" to jump off on the side of the coalition and the new gov't.

9. Said the MSM was making a big, and wrong, deal out of the religious sects. Said Iraqis are incredibly nationalistic. They are Iraqis first and then say they are Muslim but the Shi'a - Sunni thing is just not that big a deal to them.

10. After the election the Mayor of Baghdad told him that the people of the region (Middle East) are joyous and the governments are nervous.

11. Said that he did not lose a single tanker truck carrying oil and gas over the roads of Iraq. Think about that. All the attacks we saw on TV with IEDs hitting trucks but he didn't lose one. Why? Army Aviation. Praised his air units and said they made the decision early on that every convoy would have helicopter air cover. Said aviators in that unit were hitting the 1,000 hour mark (sound familiar?). Said a convoy was supposed to head out but stopped at the gates of a compound on the command of an E6. He asked the SSG what the hold up was. E6 said, "Air , sir." He wondered what was wrong with the air, not realizing what the kid was talking about. Then the AH-64s showed up and the E6 said, "That air sir." And then moved out.

12. Said one of the biggest problems was money and regs. There was a $77 million gap between the supplemental budget and what he needed in cash on the ground to get projects started. Said he spent most of his time trying to get money. Said he didn't do much as a "combat commander" because the war he was fighting was a war at the squad and platoon level. Said that his NCOs were winning the war and it was a sight to behold.

13. Said that of all the money appropriated for Iraq, not a cent was earmarked for agriculture. Said that Iraq could feed itself completely and still have food for export but no one thought about it. Said the Cav started working with Texas A&M on ag projects and had special hybrid seeds sent to them through Jordan. TAM analyzed soil samples and worked out how and what to plant. Said he had an E7 from Belton, TX (just down the road from Ft. Hood) who was almost single-handedly rebuilding the ag industry in the Baghdad area.

14. Said he could hire hundreds of Iraqis daily for $7 to $10 a day to work on sewer, electric, water projects, etc. but that the contracting rules from CONUS applied so he had to have $500,000 insurance policies in place in case the workers got hurt. Not kidding. The CONUS peacetime regs slowed everything down, even if they could eventually get waivers for the regs.




Man I can't tell you how important agriculture is to the 1st world. We have advanced due to a cheap and accesible food supply. It makes me proud to be an Aggie and suffer the jokes of my business major friends when I switched to agronomy.

Any Ags out there have Dr. Cralle? or attend Murray Milford's Magical Mystery Hour? LOL I remember getting to meet Dr. Norman Borlaug, Nobel winner for Ag and known as the father of the green revolution, it amazed me and still does that agriculture is so vital yet so overlooked by most Americans.


96Ag
3/17/2005 8:46:32 PM EDT
[#7]
It looks like everyone figured that  Iraq must have had Agriculture under control, and underestimated how badly Saddam screwed things up.
3/17/2005 8:50:04 PM EDT
[#8]
tag for later review
3/17/2005 8:51:12 PM EDT
[#9]
interesting read. thanks!
3/17/2005 11:06:14 PM EDT
[#10]
Good stuff.
3/17/2005 11:25:46 PM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:

Man I can't tell you how important agriculture is to the 1st world. We have advanced due to a cheap and accesible food supply. It makes me proud to be an Aggie and suffer the jokes of my business major friends when I switched to agronomy.

Any Ags out there have Dr. Cralle? or attend Murray Milford's Magical Mystery Hour? LOL I remember getting to meet Dr. Norman Borlaug, Nobel winner for Ag and known as the father of the green revolution, it amazed me and still does that agriculture is so vital yet so overlooked by most Americans.


96Ag



It's simple. Norman Borlaug was so successful, it isn't a problem. Hence no one thinks about it. That "Population Bomb" guy is still claiming we will all starve to death, and he hasn't been laughed out of the country yet.  
3/17/2005 11:29:21 PM EDT
[#12]
Good stuff Maynard, Thanks LGB.