[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Interstellar (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 3/17/2016 11:20:56 PM EDT
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I don't agree with matthew mcconaughey's politics but damn that was a hell of a movie. ETA: watched it on amazon prime |
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Arfcom loves to hate on it, but I've seen it several times and really liked it. I even liked the "power of love" part quite a lot.
The impossible docking scene - one of the most amazing scenes in any move ever, in every way - music, sound, acting, cinematography, editing, pacing, just perfect. |
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Smashy her squishy! 
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I didn't get the ending when he entered the black hole. How did the humans back on earth who were going to starve to death from the blight able to build an interdenominational structure in the black hole if the mission failed? I think the idea was for the robot to transmit the data from beyond the even horizon to the hot chick and she forwards it on to earth. Sexy dude getting dropped below the event horizon didn't know he was going to have such an awesome ride and end up in the interdimensional plane (that humans of the far future create to save their past selves). He just wanted the robot to get the data. What the data was or how the data could be simplified into Morse (or binary) is far beyond me. I am sure there had to be a divide by this and subtract by the weight of the light reflected of Leanard Nemoy's ballsack or something weird calculation. And as an edit, someone want to explain to me how the hot chick was going to (by herself) repopulate the human species with all the frozen eggs? She would be fucking long dead before there was enough population to be self sustaining (and incestuous to boot). And what happens if her narrow ass hips didn't do birthing that well? I mean I would love to breed her, but not after thirty or forty birthing cycles. |
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I think the idea was for the robot to transmit the data from beyond the even horizon to the hot chick and she forwards it on to earth. Sexy dude getting dropped below the event horizon didn't know he was going to have such an awesome ride and end up in the interdimensional plane (that humans of the far future create to save their past selves). He just wanted the robot to get the data. What the data was or how the data could be simplified into Morse (or binary) is far beyond me. I am sure there had to be a divide by this and subtract by the weight of the light reflected of Leanard Nemoy's ballsack or something weird calculation. And as an edit, someone want to explain to me how the hot chick was going to (by herself) repopulate the human species with all the frozen eggs? She would be fucking long dead before there was enough population to be self sustaining (and incestuous to boot). And what happens if her narrow ass hips didn't do birthing that well? I mean I would love to breed her, but not after thirty or forty birthing cycles. Quoted:
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I didn't get the ending when he entered the black hole. How did the humans back on earth who were going to starve to death from the blight able to build an interdenominational structure in the black hole if the mission failed? I think the idea was for the robot to transmit the data from beyond the even horizon to the hot chick and she forwards it on to earth. Sexy dude getting dropped below the event horizon didn't know he was going to have such an awesome ride and end up in the interdimensional plane (that humans of the far future create to save their past selves). He just wanted the robot to get the data. What the data was or how the data could be simplified into Morse (or binary) is far beyond me. I am sure there had to be a divide by this and subtract by the weight of the light reflected of Leanard Nemoy's ballsack or something weird calculation. And as an edit, someone want to explain to me how the hot chick was going to (by herself) repopulate the human species with all the frozen eggs? She would be fucking long dead before there was enough population to be self sustaining (and incestuous to boot). And what happens if her narrow ass hips didn't do birthing that well? I mean I would love to breed her, but not after thirty or forty birthing cycles. Robot calculated the formula and then MM used the watch to translate the advanced physics formula to his genius daughter, the only human with the intelligence to figure that stuff out. At some point in the distant future humans will master time travel, at that point they set everything up so Murphy's dad can help her solve it. She's the key, MM was just the instrument to relay the information to her. |
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Robot calculated the formula and then MM used the watch to translate the advanced physics formula to his genius daughter, the only human with the intelligence to figure that stuff out. At some point in the distant future humans will master time travel, at that point they set everything up so Murphy's dad can help her solve it. She's the key, MM was just the instrument to relay the information to her. Oh I tracked that was WHAT happened. I was hypothesizing the original goal was. He couldn't have known what would have happened when he crossed the event horizon so I was spitballing what he orignally planned. When he ended up in magical string land he adapted. I still want to know how they were giong to regrow the human race with one female on the crew. And it was the prof's daughter at that. |
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I liked it a lot. It had the right mix of science fiction and human drama. Even the "power of love" angle, while perhaps a bit overstated, didn't turn me off (which is unusual).
I love the first 33 seconds of this clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TV3IgZeQk_Q |
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I think the idea was for the robot to transmit the data from beyond the even horizon to the hot chick and she forwards it on to earth. Sexy dude getting dropped below the event horizon didn't know he was going to have such an awesome ride and end up in the interdimensional plane (that humans of the far future create to save their past selves). He just wanted the robot to get the data. What the data was or how the data could be simplified into Morse (or binary) is far beyond me. I am sure there had to be a divide by this and subtract by the weight of the light reflected of Leanard Nemoy's ballsack or something weird calculation. And as an edit, someone want to explain to me how the hot chick was going to (by herself) repopulate the human species with all the frozen eggs? She would be fucking long dead before there was enough population to be self sustaining (and incestuous to boot). And what happens if her narrow ass hips didn't do birthing that well? I mean I would love to breed her, but not after thirty or forty birthing cycles. Quoted:
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I didn't get the ending when he entered the black hole. How did the humans back on earth who were going to starve to death from the blight able to build an interdenominational structure in the black hole if the mission failed? I think the idea was for the robot to transmit the data from beyond the even horizon to the hot chick and she forwards it on to earth. Sexy dude getting dropped below the event horizon didn't know he was going to have such an awesome ride and end up in the interdimensional plane (that humans of the far future create to save their past selves). He just wanted the robot to get the data. What the data was or how the data could be simplified into Morse (or binary) is far beyond me. I am sure there had to be a divide by this and subtract by the weight of the light reflected of Leanard Nemoy's ballsack or something weird calculation. And as an edit, someone want to explain to me how the hot chick was going to (by herself) repopulate the human species with all the frozen eggs? She would be fucking long dead before there was enough population to be self sustaining (and incestuous to boot). And what happens if her narrow ass hips didn't do birthing that well? I mean I would love to breed her, but not after thirty or forty birthing cycles. I get that future humans created the interdenominational plane, but how? The humans needed the data from the black hole in order to create the interdenominational plane and since the robot was unable to transmit the data, how did the human race advance that far technology wise when there was only a generation and a half worth of sustainable habitat for humans on earth? |
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Oh I tracked that was WHAT happened. I was hypothesizing the original goal was. He couldn't have known what would have happened when he crossed the event horizon so I was spitballing what he orignally planned. When he ended up in magical string land he adapted. I still want to know how they were giong to regrow the human race with one female on the crew. And it was the prof's daughter at that. Quoted:
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Robot calculated the formula and then MM used the watch to translate the advanced physics formula to his genius daughter, the only human with the intelligence to figure that stuff out. At some point in the distant future humans will master time travel, at that point they set everything up so Murphy's dad can help her solve it. She's the key, MM was just the instrument to relay the information to her. Oh I tracked that was WHAT happened. I was hypothesizing the original goal was. He couldn't have known what would have happened when he crossed the event horizon so I was spitballing what he orignally planned. When he ended up in magical string land he adapted. I still want to know how they were giong to regrow the human race with one female on the crew. And it was the prof's daughter at that. The machines carrying the sperm samples and eggs were also artificial gestation units. The prof's daughter briefly mentions this to MM when explaining plan B. |
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I didn't get the ending when he entered the black hole. How did the humans back on earth who were going to starve to death from the blight able to build an interdenominational structure in the black hole if the mission failed? Neil deGrasse Tyson takes a shot at it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1cexcjdyIE There isn't a neat answer. But once you're able to step outside of the dimension of time (which humans necessarily have to be able to do to make exodus work after receiving the information from TARS), all kinds of possibilities open up... including the possibility of making time irrelevant. Maybe. |
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Neil deGrasse Tyson takes a shot at it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1cexcjdyIE There isn't a neat answer. But once you're able to step outside of the dimension of time (which humans necessarily have to be able to do to make exodus work after receiving the information from TARS), all kinds of possibilities open up... including the possibility of making time irrelevant. Maybe. Quoted:
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I didn't get the ending when he entered the black hole. How did the humans back on earth who were going to starve to death from the blight able to build an interdenominational structure in the black hole if the mission failed? Neil deGrasse Tyson takes a shot at it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1cexcjdyIE There isn't a neat answer. But once you're able to step outside of the dimension of time (which humans necessarily have to be able to do to make exodus work after receiving the information from TARS), all kinds of possibilities open up... including the possibility of making time irrelevant. Maybe. I understand that, but my sticking point was that they needed the info from the blackhole to solve those interdenominational problems. That data failed to be transmitted and could only be obtained from inside the black hole, according to the movie. So a generation and a half of people somehow figured out how to ascend to a higher dimension? That seems unlikely given they couldn't solve the gravity problem. It's all probably over my short bus intelligence anyways 
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Oh I tracked that was WHAT happened. I was hypothesizing the original goal was. He couldn't have known what would have happened when he crossed the event horizon so I was spitballing what he orignally planned. When he ended up in magical string land he adapted. I still want to know how they were giong to regrow the human race with one female on the crew. And it was the prof's daughter at that. Quoted:
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Robot calculated the formula and then MM used the watch to translate the advanced physics formula to his genius daughter, the only human with the intelligence to figure that stuff out. At some point in the distant future humans will master time travel, at that point they set everything up so Murphy's dad can help her solve it. She's the key, MM was just the instrument to relay the information to her. Oh I tracked that was WHAT happened. I was hypothesizing the original goal was. He couldn't have known what would have happened when he crossed the event horizon so I was spitballing what he orignally planned. When he ended up in magical string land he adapted. I still want to know how they were giong to regrow the human race with one female on the crew. And it was the prof's daughter at that. I think he figured he was going to die when he sacrificed himself to save the hot science chick (HSC). MM gets stuck in a black hole while HSC goes to the planet her dead exboyfriend is on to restart human population with the genetic material. Here's how I think it went down after. Plan B worked, humans survived on that planet but not well. They gain technology from nearby black hole from MM and over time that allows them to manipulate time. They calculate everything and figure out the perfect plan to alter the past so Plan B isn't necessary, humans on earth save themselves plan A. They use MM since he's already going to get lost in the black hole, and since his genius daughter is basically running NASA at that point, she's the target to get the information. They send back the gate thingee, which gives the humans from the past the first opportunity to explore, sending out the initial missions. With MM stuck in the time portal, he alerts his past self to find NASA, ensuring he's part of it, and Murph. At the end a new time loop exists where both Plan A and Plan B work. |
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I understand that, but my sticking point was that they needed the info from the blackhole to solve those interdenominational problems. That data failed to be transmitted and could only be obtained from inside the black hole, according to the movie. So a generation and a half of people somehow figured out how to ascend to a higher dimension? That seems unlikely given they couldn't solve the gravity problem. It's all probably over my short bus intelligence anyways Quoted:
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I didn't get the ending when he entered the black hole. How did the humans back on earth who were going to starve to death from the blight able to build an interdenominational structure in the black hole if the mission failed? Neil deGrasse Tyson takes a shot at it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1cexcjdyIE There isn't a neat answer. But once you're able to step outside of the dimension of time (which humans necessarily have to be able to do to make exodus work after receiving the information from TARS), all kinds of possibilities open up... including the possibility of making time irrelevant. Maybe. I understand that, but my sticking point was that they needed the info from the blackhole to solve those interdenominational problems. That data failed to be transmitted and could only be obtained from inside the black hole, according to the movie. So a generation and a half of people somehow figured out how to ascend to a higher dimension? That seems unlikely given they couldn't solve the gravity problem. It's all probably over my short bus intelligence anyways Data was transmitted, MM wrote out the math in Morse code to Murph in the past while he was stuck in the black hole, she then broke the formula completely, thus creating a drive system that could power the already developing super ships to get them into space. |
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I think he figured he was going to die when he sacrificed himself to save the hot science chick (HSC). MM gets stuck in a black hole while HSC goes to the planet her dead exboyfriend is on to restart human population with the genetic material. Here's how I think it went down after. Plan B worked, humans survived on that planet but not well. They gain technology from nearby black hole from MM and over time that allows them to manipulate time. They calculate everything and figure out the perfect plan to alter the past so Plan B isn't necessary, humans on earth save themselves plan A. They use MM since he's already going to get lost in the black hole, and since his genius daughter is basically running NASA at that point, she's the target to get the information. They send back the gate thingee, which gives the humans from the past the first opportunity to explore, sending out the initial missions. With MM stuck in the time portal, he alerts his past self to find NASA, ensuring he's part of it, and Murph. At the end a new time loop exists where both Plan A and Plan B work. Quoted:
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Robot calculated the formula and then MM used the watch to translate the advanced physics formula to his genius daughter, the only human with the intelligence to figure that stuff out. At some point in the distant future humans will master time travel, at that point they set everything up so Murphy's dad can help her solve it. She's the key, MM was just the instrument to relay the information to her. Oh I tracked that was WHAT happened. I was hypothesizing the original goal was. He couldn't have known what would have happened when he crossed the event horizon so I was spitballing what he orignally planned. When he ended up in magical string land he adapted. I still want to know how they were giong to regrow the human race with one female on the crew. And it was the prof's daughter at that. I think he figured he was going to die when he sacrificed himself to save the hot science chick (HSC). MM gets stuck in a black hole while HSC goes to the planet her dead exboyfriend is on to restart human population with the genetic material. Here's how I think it went down after. Plan B worked, humans survived on that planet but not well. They gain technology from nearby black hole from MM and over time that allows them to manipulate time. They calculate everything and figure out the perfect plan to alter the past so Plan B isn't necessary, humans on earth save themselves plan A. They use MM since he's already going to get lost in the black hole, and since his genius daughter is basically running NASA at that point, she's the target to get the information. They send back the gate thingee, which gives the humans from the past the first opportunity to explore, sending out the initial missions. With MM stuck in the time portal, he alerts his past self to find NASA, ensuring he's part of it, and Murph. At the end a new time loop exists where both Plan A and Plan B work. That would work if the wormhole by Saturn was a natural occurrence. It was created. No wormhole, no off world colony in the first place. |
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Data was transmitted, MM wrote out the math in Morse code to Murph in the past while he was stuck in the black hole, she then broke the formula completely, thus creating a drive system that could power the already developing super ships to get them into space. Quoted:
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I didn't get the ending when he entered the black hole. How did the humans back on earth who were going to starve to death from the blight able to build an interdenominational structure in the black hole if the mission failed? Neil deGrasse Tyson takes a shot at it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1cexcjdyIE There isn't a neat answer. But once you're able to step outside of the dimension of time (which humans necessarily have to be able to do to make exodus work after receiving the information from TARS), all kinds of possibilities open up... including the possibility of making time irrelevant. Maybe. I understand that, but my sticking point was that they needed the info from the blackhole to solve those interdenominational problems. That data failed to be transmitted and could only be obtained from inside the black hole, according to the movie. So a generation and a half of people somehow figured out how to ascend to a higher dimension? That seems unlikely given they couldn't solve the gravity problem. It's all probably over my short bus intelligence anyways Data was transmitted, MM wrote out the math in Morse code to Murph in the past while he was stuck in the black hole, she then broke the formula completely, thus creating a drive system that could power the already developing super ships to get them into space. It was transmitted, but only through the man made interdenominational widget, the robot was unable to transmit the data out of the black hole. How can you build the interdenominational widget if the data from the robot failed to leave the black hole? |
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I understand that, but my sticking point was that they needed the info from the blackhole to solve those interdenominational problems. That data failed to be transmitted and could only be obtained from inside the black hole, according to the movie. So a generation and a half of people somehow figured out how to ascend to a higher dimension? That seems unlikely given they couldn't solve the gravity problem. It's all probably over my short bus intelligence anyways Quoted:
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I didn't get the ending when he entered the black hole. How did the humans back on earth who were going to starve to death from the blight able to build an interdenominational structure in the black hole if the mission failed? Neil deGrasse Tyson takes a shot at it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1cexcjdyIE There isn't a neat answer. But once you're able to step outside of the dimension of time (which humans necessarily have to be able to do to make exodus work after receiving the information from TARS), all kinds of possibilities open up... including the possibility of making time irrelevant. Maybe. I understand that, but my sticking point was that they needed the info from the blackhole to solve those interdenominational problems. That data failed to be transmitted and could only be obtained from inside the black hole, according to the movie. So a generation and a half of people somehow figured out how to ascend to a higher dimension? That seems unlikely given they couldn't solve the gravity problem. It's all probably over my short bus intelligence anyways Best I can figure is plan B worked with Brand on Edmund's planet (desert planet at the end of the movie). Those people continue the human race and in the eventually in the future create the tesseract which in turn enables them to make plan A work. |
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Best I can figure is plan B worked with Brand on Edmund's planet (desert planet at the end of the movie). Those people continue the human race and in the eventually in the future create the tesseract which in turn enables them to make plan A work. Quoted:
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I didn't get the ending when he entered the black hole. How did the humans back on earth who were going to starve to death from the blight able to build an interdenominational structure in the black hole if the mission failed? Neil deGrasse Tyson takes a shot at it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1cexcjdyIE There isn't a neat answer. But once you're able to step outside of the dimension of time (which humans necessarily have to be able to do to make exodus work after receiving the information from TARS), all kinds of possibilities open up... including the possibility of making time irrelevant. Maybe. I understand that, but my sticking point was that they needed the info from the blackhole to solve those interdenominational problems. That data failed to be transmitted and could only be obtained from inside the black hole, according to the movie. So a generation and a half of people somehow figured out how to ascend to a higher dimension? That seems unlikely given they couldn't solve the gravity problem. It's all probably over my short bus intelligence anyways Best I can figure is plan B worked with Brand on Edmund's planet (desert planet at the end of the movie). Those people continue the human race and in the eventually in the future create the tesseract which in turn enables them to make plan A work. That makes sense up until the point about the wormhole. How did the worm hole originate that facilitated intergalactic travel? Plan B can't even exist w/o the wormhole that was made by people. |
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That would work if the wormhole by Saturn was a natural occurrence. It was created. No wormhole, no off world colony in the first place. Quoted:
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Robot calculated the formula and then MM used the watch to translate the advanced physics formula to his genius daughter, the only human with the intelligence to figure that stuff out. At some point in the distant future humans will master time travel, at that point they set everything up so Murphy's dad can help her solve it. She's the key, MM was just the instrument to relay the information to her. Oh I tracked that was WHAT happened. I was hypothesizing the original goal was. He couldn't have known what would have happened when he crossed the event horizon so I was spitballing what he orignally planned. When he ended up in magical string land he adapted. I still want to know how they were giong to regrow the human race with one female on the crew. And it was the prof's daughter at that. I think he figured he was going to die when he sacrificed himself to save the hot science chick (HSC). MM gets stuck in a black hole while HSC goes to the planet her dead exboyfriend is on to restart human population with the genetic material. Here's how I think it went down after. Plan B worked, humans survived on that planet but not well. They gain technology from nearby black hole from MM and over time that allows them to manipulate time. They calculate everything and figure out the perfect plan to alter the past so Plan B isn't necessary, humans on earth save themselves plan A. They use MM since he's already going to get lost in the black hole, and since his genius daughter is basically running NASA at that point, she's the target to get the information. They send back the gate thingee, which gives the humans from the past the first opportunity to explore, sending out the initial missions. With MM stuck in the time portal, he alerts his past self to find NASA, ensuring he's part of it, and Murph. At the end a new time loop exists where both Plan A and Plan B work. That would work if the wormhole by Saturn was a natural occurrence. It was created. No wormhole, no off world colony in the first place. Already addressed, the worm hole was described as artificial yet they didn't know who made it. Either is a deux ex machina, or since it was a crazy assNilan Ryan movie with layers upon layers of plot, it was humans from the future. Which humans, Plan A humans led by Murph? Plan B humans bred by Hot science chick? MM and his robot pal cruising the galaxy looking for high school girls who never age? |
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It was transmitted, but only through the man made interdenominational widget, the robot was unable to transmit the data out of the black hole. How can you build the interdenominational widget if the data from the robot failed to leave the black hole? Quoted:
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I didn't get the ending when he entered the black hole. How did the humans back on earth who were going to starve to death from the blight able to build an interdenominational structure in the black hole if the mission failed? Neil deGrasse Tyson takes a shot at it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1cexcjdyIE There isn't a neat answer. But once you're able to step outside of the dimension of time (which humans necessarily have to be able to do to make exodus work after receiving the information from TARS), all kinds of possibilities open up... including the possibility of making time irrelevant. Maybe. I understand that, but my sticking point was that they needed the info from the blackhole to solve those interdenominational problems. That data failed to be transmitted and could only be obtained from inside the black hole, according to the movie. So a generation and a half of people somehow figured out how to ascend to a higher dimension? That seems unlikely given they couldn't solve the gravity problem. It's all probably over my short bus intelligence anyways Data was transmitted, MM wrote out the math in Morse code to Murph in the past while he was stuck in the black hole, she then broke the formula completely, thus creating a drive system that could power the already developing super ships to get them into space. It was transmitted, but only through the man made interdenominational widget, the robot was unable to transmit the data out of the black hole. How can you build the interdenominational widget if the data from the robot failed to leave the black hole? The robot didn't need to transmit it, the robot was able to calculate all the physics stuff and then decipher it into Mirse Code, which MM gave to his daughter through his old watch he gave her. That's how Murph got the math that made Plan A work. |
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Already addressed, the worm hole was described as artificial yet they didn't know who made it. Either is a deux ex machina, or since it was a crazy assNilan Ryan movie with layers upon layers of plot, it was humans from the future. Which humans, Plan A humans led by Murph? Plan B humans bred by Hot science chick? MM and his robot pal cruising the galaxy looking for high school girls who never age? Quoted:
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Robot calculated the formula and then MM used the watch to translate the advanced physics formula to his genius daughter, the only human with the intelligence to figure that stuff out. At some point in the distant future humans will master time travel, at that point they set everything up so Murphy's dad can help her solve it. She's the key, MM was just the instrument to relay the information to her. Oh I tracked that was WHAT happened. I was hypothesizing the original goal was. He couldn't have known what would have happened when he crossed the event horizon so I was spitballing what he orignally planned. When he ended up in magical string land he adapted. I still want to know how they were giong to regrow the human race with one female on the crew. And it was the prof's daughter at that. I think he figured he was going to die when he sacrificed himself to save the hot science chick (HSC). MM gets stuck in a black hole while HSC goes to the planet her dead exboyfriend is on to restart human population with the genetic material. Here's how I think it went down after. Plan B worked, humans survived on that planet but not well. They gain technology from nearby black hole from MM and over time that allows them to manipulate time. They calculate everything and figure out the perfect plan to alter the past so Plan B isn't necessary, humans on earth save themselves plan A. They use MM since he's already going to get lost in the black hole, and since his genius daughter is basically running NASA at that point, she's the target to get the information. They send back the gate thingee, which gives the humans from the past the first opportunity to explore, sending out the initial missions. With MM stuck in the time portal, he alerts his past self to find NASA, ensuring he's part of it, and Murph. At the end a new time loop exists where both Plan A and Plan B work. That would work if the wormhole by Saturn was a natural occurrence. It was created. No wormhole, no off world colony in the first place. Already addressed, the worm hole was described as artificial yet they didn't know who made it. Either is a deux ex machina, or since it was a crazy assNilan Ryan movie with layers upon layers of plot, it was humans from the future. Which humans, Plan A humans led by Murph? Plan B humans bred by Hot science chick? MM and his robot pal cruising the galaxy looking for high school girls who never age? You can't get to point B w/o A, but you can't have A because B has to occur before A. The problem is the wormhole. Where did the wormhole come from, because it cannot exist via the parameters given in the movie? |
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The machines carrying the sperm samples and eggs were also artificial gestation units. The prof's daughter briefly mentions this to MM when explaining plan B. Quoted:
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Robot calculated the formula and then MM used the watch to translate the advanced physics formula to his genius daughter, the only human with the intelligence to figure that stuff out. At some point in the distant future humans will master time travel, at that point they set everything up so Murphy's dad can help her solve it. She's the key, MM was just the instrument to relay the information to her. Oh I tracked that was WHAT happened. I was hypothesizing the original goal was. He couldn't have known what would have happened when he crossed the event horizon so I was spitballing what he orignally planned. When he ended up in magical string land he adapted. I still want to know how they were giong to regrow the human race with one female on the crew. And it was the prof's daughter at that. The machines carrying the sperm samples and eggs were also artificial gestation units. The prof's daughter briefly mentions this to MM when explaining plan B. The other part he overlooked is that they were embryos. Even if she had to birth them herself there would have been no genetic relation between her and the children she birthed. The embryos were genetically diverse enough to sustain a new population without inbreeding. At least not anything closer than third cousin which would have nil impact on resulting offspring. |
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You can't get to point B w/o A, but you can't have A because B has to occur before A. The problem is the wormhole. Where did the wormhole come from, because it cannot exist via the parameters given in the movie? Yes, it can. Future humans made it. It's a time loop, the things in the future caused the things in the past to happen, vice versa. Like John Connor. He sends someone back to the past to save his mom, turns out to be his dad, starts a time loop where he can't exist if terminators don't take over. In interstellar the wormhole, tesseract, time thingee was an artificial construct that one day just showed up. Nolan movie, it could be deux ex machina, buy likely its not. Human descendants either from Plan A or B made it and sent it back to either help past humans save more people or to guarantee their own survival for Plan B to work. |
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I understand that, but my sticking point was that they needed the info from the blackhole to solve those interdenominational problems. That data failed to be transmitted and could only be obtained from inside the black hole, according to the movie. So a generation and a half of people somehow figured out how to ascend to a higher dimension? That seems unlikely given they couldn't solve the gravity problem. It's all probably over my short bus intelligence anyways Quoted:
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I didn't get the ending when he entered the black hole. How did the humans back on earth who were going to starve to death from the blight able to build an interdenominational structure in the black hole if the mission failed? Neil deGrasse Tyson takes a shot at it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1cexcjdyIE There isn't a neat answer. But once you're able to step outside of the dimension of time (which humans necessarily have to be able to do to make exodus work after receiving the information from TARS), all kinds of possibilities open up... including the possibility of making time irrelevant. Maybe. I understand that, but my sticking point was that they needed the info from the blackhole to solve those interdenominational problems. That data failed to be transmitted and could only be obtained from inside the black hole, according to the movie. So a generation and a half of people somehow figured out how to ascend to a higher dimension? That seems unlikely given they couldn't solve the gravity problem. It's all probably over my short bus intelligence anyways It was more than a generation and a half. The future humans who sent the information to solve the gravity problem were the descendants of the embryonic colony established on the new planet. They never said how old the new society was when they sent the information back and made the wormhole but it could have been thousands or even millions of years into the future. |
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The robot didn't need to transmit it, the robot was able to calculate all the physics stuff and then decipher it into Mirse Code, which MM gave to his daughter through his old watch he gave her. That's how Murph got the math that made Plan A work. And we are just supposed to ignore the fact that a black hole would crush all matter that gets sucked into it, which is what makes it a black hole? And ignore the whole part about buzzing the edge of the black hole with their ship (so close that 1 hour equals 7 years on earth), but the black hole didn't pull them in? I like scifi, but it has to be somewhat believable. That movie was ridiculous. Sorry. |
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Yes, it can. Future humans made it. It's a time loop, the things in the future caused the things in the past to happen, vice versa. Like John Connor. He sends someone back to the past to save his mom, turns out to be his dad, starts a time loop where he can't exist if terminators don't take over. In interstellar the wormhole, tesseract, time thingee was an artificial construct that one day just showed up. Nolan movie, it could be deux ex machina, buy likely its not. Human descendants either from Plan A or B made it and sent it back to either help past humans save more people or to guarantee their own survival for Plan B to work. Quoted:
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You can't get to point B w/o A, but you can't have A because B has to occur before A. The problem is the wormhole. Where did the wormhole come from, because it cannot exist via the parameters given in the movie? Yes, it can. Future humans made it. It's a time loop, the things in the future caused the things in the past to happen, vice versa. Like John Connor. He sends someone back to the past to save his mom, turns out to be his dad, starts a time loop where he can't exist if terminators don't take over. In interstellar the wormhole, tesseract, time thingee was an artificial construct that one day just showed up. Nolan movie, it could be deux ex machina, buy likely its not. Human descendants either from Plan A or B made it and sent it back to either help past humans save more people or to guarantee their own survival for Plan B to work. There was only a generation and a half of people left on the earth. The same people who couldn't figure out how to stop a blight unlocked the mysteries of the universe in a generation and a half? |
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That makes sense up until the point about the wormhole. How did the worm hole originate that facilitated intergalactic travel? Plan B can't even exist w/o the wormhole that was made by people. Quoted:
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I didn't get the ending when he entered the black hole. How did the humans back on earth who were going to starve to death from the blight able to build an interdenominational structure in the black hole if the mission failed? Neil deGrasse Tyson takes a shot at it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1cexcjdyIE There isn't a neat answer. But once you're able to step outside of the dimension of time (which humans necessarily have to be able to do to make exodus work after receiving the information from TARS), all kinds of possibilities open up... including the possibility of making time irrelevant. Maybe. I understand that, but my sticking point was that they needed the info from the blackhole to solve those interdenominational problems. That data failed to be transmitted and could only be obtained from inside the black hole, according to the movie. So a generation and a half of people somehow figured out how to ascend to a higher dimension? That seems unlikely given they couldn't solve the gravity problem. It's all probably over my short bus intelligence anyways Best I can figure is plan B worked with Brand on Edmund's planet (desert planet at the end of the movie). Those people continue the human race and in the eventually in the future create the tesseract which in turn enables them to make plan A work. That makes sense up until the point about the wormhole. How did the worm hole originate that facilitated intergalactic travel? Plan B can't even exist w/o the wormhole that was made by people. It's a time paradox that also explores the possibility of alternate reality. It could have been that somewhere in an alternate history Plan B happened in another way not shown in the movie. The descendants of Plan B then decided to alter history to what they saw as a more favorable outcome than what had already happened. Once you dive into those sorts of mechanics you end up with free reign to entertain some pretty wild ideas and scenarios because frankly we don't have the first clue about how it would actually work. If space is expanding what is it expanding into? Point being don't bake your noodle over it and just enjoy the flick. |
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And we are just supposed to ignore the fact that a black hole would crush all matter that gets sucked into it, which is what makes it a black hole? And ignore the whole part about buzzing the edge of the black hole with their ship (so close that 1 hour equals 7 years on earth), but the black hole didn't pull them in? I like scifi, but it has to be somewhat believable. That movie was ridiculous. Sorry. Quoted:
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The robot didn't need to transmit it, the robot was able to calculate all the physics stuff and then decipher it into Mirse Code, which MM gave to his daughter through his old watch he gave her. That's how Murph got the math that made Plan A work. And we are just supposed to ignore the fact that a black hole would crush all matter that gets sucked into it, which is what makes it a black hole? And ignore the whole part about buzzing the edge of the black hole with their ship (so close that 1 hour equals 7 years on earth), but the black hole didn't pull them in? I like scifi, but it has to be somewhat believable. That movie was ridiculous. Sorry. There is no realistic sci fi. It works be too boring and nobody works read/buy it. It's drama, meant for entertainment. I was entertained enough that I want focusing on plot holes that exist in everything. If the director can keep the illusion of fantasy going, it's good. I also liked Pacific Rim, which was huge monsters getting beat up in fist fights against giant robots piloted by terrible actors. Fucking loved that movie, despite it being full of plot holes. Oblivion, Star Wars, Star Trek, Edge of Tomorrow, Serenity, all are full of plot holes, but because they are well done you don't think about them till after you leave the theater. Then it's question time, of the variety even the screen writers probably couldn't answer because they purposely made it vague. |
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And we are just supposed to ignore the fact that a black hole would crush all matter that gets sucked into it, which is what makes it a black hole? And ignore the whole part about buzzing the edge of the black hole with their ship (so close that 1 hour equals 7 years on earth), but the black hole didn't pull them in? I like scifi, but it has to be somewhat believable. That movie was ridiculous. Sorry. Quoted:
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The robot didn't need to transmit it, the robot was able to calculate all the physics stuff and then decipher it into Mirse Code, which MM gave to his daughter through his old watch he gave her. That's how Murph got the math that made Plan A work. And we are just supposed to ignore the fact that a black hole would crush all matter that gets sucked into it, which is what makes it a black hole? And ignore the whole part about buzzing the edge of the black hole with their ship (so close that 1 hour equals 7 years on earth), but the black hole didn't pull them in? I like scifi, but it has to be somewhat believable. That movie was ridiculous. Sorry. We don't really know that for certain. There are a lot of theories about what happens inside a black hole and there is no way to prove or disprove any of them as of yet. |
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You can't get to point B w/o A, but you can't have A because B has to occur before A. The problem is the wormhole. Where did the wormhole come from, because it cannot exist via the parameters given in the movie? Yes, it can. Future humans made it. It's a time loop, the things in the future caused the things in the past to happen, vice versa. Like John Connor. He sends someone back to the past to save his mom, turns out to be his dad, starts a time loop where he can't exist if terminators don't take over. In interstellar the wormhole, tesseract, time thingee was an artificial construct that one day just showed up. Nolan movie, it could be deux ex machina, buy likely its not. Human descendants either from Plan A or B made it and sent it back to either help past humans save more people or to guarantee their own survival for Plan B to work. There was only a generation and a half of people left on the earth. The same people who couldn't figure out how to stop a blight unlocked the mysteries of the universe in a generation and a half? No. In a generation and half they got off the earth and built that big ass ship that was sustainable. Murph is a physicist, not a farmer. She figured out the math stuff because her dad sent the info through manipulation of the hands of her watch in Morse code. Later she built the tech that helped Plan A work. With a working knowledge of the secrets of the blackhole and no doubt had gotten more since they were repeatedly sending out scout space craft. So at some point someone down the road build the wormhole and then send it back in time to help their ancestors. Either they do it or the test tube PlanB offspring do it. Either way, they created a time loop. One possibility is that humans on their own in alternative future got off earth and settled a Plan B mission somewhere else, without the artificial wormhole to help. They then survived and many eons later decided that life sucks so they used their future tech to completely recreate the past using wormholes. This set the state for first interaction, with other subsequent versions tweaking the past bit by bit until the perfect variation accured, culminating in the need to find the smartest human on earth in the best position to help, that being murph, and then finding a way of Shanghaing her dad into the mission all he can perform his role. This creates a different time loop where Plan A and PlanB would both have to create the worm holw too, since the original future humans that set all this in motion are all gone, their future was rewritten and they aren't in the new one. |
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I get that future humans created the interdenominational plane, but how? The humans needed the data from the black hole in order to create the interdenominational plane and since the robot was unable to transmit the data, how did the human race advance that far technology wise when there was only a generation and a half worth of sustainable habitat for humans on earth? no they didn't--at the time, they only needed those data to evacuate the earth (plan A). imagine that plan B (the egg bomb) worked, but plan A (evacuation) didn't. if plan B got off the ground, it would result in a technologically advanced civilization right from the start. since the movie proposes that time travel is possible, it follows that the interdimensional plane would be created at some far future point in the plan B timeline. it might be 100,000 years from now, when they're vastly further than we are technologically. they discover the means to create the tesseract through their own research, and then use that technology to retroactively facilitate plan A. on an entirely different note, i haven't read any of the fandom for this movie, so this might be an old question: in y'alls opinion, did coop actually survive? think about mann's speech about what happens when we die--we see our loved ones. i have in mind the idea that coop's ejection is the moment before he actually dies, and everything after that is his dying vision of loved ones, except stretched out infinitely due to the time dilation effect to the black hole. disregard if this is beating a dead horse, but it occurred to me a while back. |