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Posted: 11/5/2009 2:08:52 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/5/2009 2:27:40 AM EST by eracer]
Somewhat surprising turn of events.

Video here



TAMPA - The detention deputy was sitting at his desk when the inmate attacked. The deputy is 64; the inmate 40 years his junior.

Deputy Kenneth Moon had another disadvantage: He was the sole deputy in a jail pod that houses 62 inmates. The only nearby people who could help him were there because they have been charged with attempted murder, home invasion, drug dealing.

And yet they did.

The first one, Jerry Dieguez Jr., is in jail on an armed home invasion charge. When he saw inmate Douglas Burden put Moon in a chokehold, Dieguez didn't hesitate.

He ran behind the desk and landed a haymaker of a punch on Burden.

Inmates Hoang Vu and Terrell Carswell also provided backup. Vu is charged with attempted murder; Carswell with robbery, marijuana possession, cocaine trafficking and failure to register as a sex offender. He also has a charge of obstructing an officer.

While Dieguez, Vu and Carswell kept Burden off the deputy, another inmate came charging over.

David Schofield, who's in jail on aggravated assault and battery charges, reached over to the deputy, took his radio and called for help.

The inmates are credited with saving their jailer's life.

"Their past acts aside, you know, you've got to applaud them for what they did," said sheriff's Col. Jim Previtera.

Previtera said Burden had Moon in a classic chokehold, one used in martial arts.

"It cuts off the blood supply," he said, "and if it's applied properly can actually crush the windpipe or the trachea."

Deputies eventually restrained Burden, 24, and put him in confinement. He has been in jail since March 14 on driving under the influence and drug trafficking charges, records show. A charge of battery on a law enforcement officer has been added after Monday's attack.

The sheriff's office will send letters to the rescuers' attorneys to be used in court on the inmates' behalf, Previtera said.

That so many inmates came to Moon's rescue "speaks volumes for the respect he's garnered from these men under his control and in his custody," he said.

Haydee Oropesa, attorney for inmate Hoang Vu, said she hopes the Hillsborough County State Attorney's office takes into account Vu's actions.

"He is an inmate that acted with care and compassion to another human being,'' Oropesa said. "I hope it does help him."

Chris Watson, felony bureau chief with the Hillsborough County Public Defender's Office, said the action taken by the inmates won't wipe out the charges against them but might help during mitigation to possibly receive a lesser sentence.

"Is it possible that what they did could help these gentlemen?" Watson said. "I think yes. It's possible."

"We are certainly happy that someone stepped in to help someone who is in a vulnerable position," Watson said. "That people stepped up and protected the deputy is a great thing."

Watson said he has been at the Orient Road and Falkenburg Road jails and met with inmates in the open area where they are held. He said it can be intimidating seeing so many people in one closed in area.

"You have an appreciation for the risk those deputies take," Watson said.

Deputy Anthony Brown works in the unit and knows Moon and many of the inmates. He said the inmates' actions showed there is more to their character than the crimes they are charged with.

"You would think that they would walk away, so somewhere in their hearts, there must be some goodness,'' Brown said.

Brian Rogers is the sheriff's office's trainer for detention deputies. He said Moon did not have his radio holstered on his hip when he was attacked. The radio has a panic button that sends out a signal to jail officials that a deputy needs help.

"I don't think he had his radio on him at the time,'' Rogers said. "I think he just got surprised. The radio was on his desk and now he's kind of left helpless without any type of communication.''

Moon, a 22-year veteran, is home recuperating from his wounds.

He was stunned after watching the surveillance video of the incident.

"He is understandably shaken by this sudden, random and violent attack, and clearly he recognizes the ramifications of what could have happened in this situation," Previtera said






Link Posted: 11/5/2009 2:14:21 AM EST
Not surprised really, most inmates are drug addicts that commit crimes under the influence of drugs. Take the drugs away and they start to turn into a shadow of their former selves. I have a friend who will give you the shirt off his back, but one hit of crack later he will steal your wallet.

Yes, there are the exceptions that are scum all the time.

Now flame away with the all criminals deserve death.
Link Posted: 11/5/2009 2:18:33 AM EST
Its a dupe, but I am too lazy to use the search function as well. So, carry on.
Link Posted: 11/5/2009 2:21:01 AM EST

Originally Posted By packingXDs:
Its a dupe, but I am too lazy to use the search function as well. So, carry on.

1st page - http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=951310

just sayin'
Link Posted: 11/5/2009 2:25:23 AM EST

Originally Posted By packingXDs:
Its a dupe, but I am too lazy to use the search function as well. So, carry on.


Sorry - I've completely given up on the "Search" function here. My failure:success ratio at finding anything useful is about 100:1, and I now just give a cursory glance at the "Newest" and "Active" topic page. If I don't see it, I hit "Submit."

Once they give us a search that will look at the text body, I'll start using it again. Title search is useless.
Link Posted: 11/5/2009 2:26:27 AM EST

Originally Posted By osprey21:

Originally Posted By packingXDs:
Its a dupe, but I am too lazy to use the search function as well. So, carry on.

1st page - http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=951310

just sayin'


This was a pre-coffee post. I looked. Really. Just missed it.
Link Posted: 11/5/2009 2:47:07 AM EST
Originally Posted By eracer:

Originally Posted By packingXDs:
Its a dupe, but I am too lazy to use the search function as well. So, carry on.


Sorry - I've completely given up on the "Search" function here. My failure:success ratio at finding anything useful is about 100:1, and I now just give a cursory glance at the "Newest" and "Active" topic page. If I don't see it, I hit "Submit."

Once they give us a search that will look at the text body, I'll start using it again. Title search is useless.


I can rarely find anything with the Search.
Link Posted: 11/5/2009 2:57:30 AM EST
That happened when I was in law enforcement...............2 inmates attacked an older deputy I knew, and the inmates in surrounding cells called over the intercom for help..............when we got there, the inmates begged us to be let into the cells with the attackers so they could "take care" of them..........
Link Posted: 11/5/2009 3:06:13 AM EST
Originally Posted By Taboot:
Originally Posted By eracer:

Originally Posted By packingXDs:
Its a dupe, but I am too lazy to use the search function as well. So, carry on.


Sorry - I've completely given up on the "Search" function here. My failure:success ratio at finding anything useful is about 100:1, and I now just give a cursory glance at the "Newest" and "Active" topic page. If I don't see it, I hit "Submit."

Once they give us a search that will look at the text body, I'll start using it again. Title search is useless.


I can rarely find anything with the Search.


Try putting one word.

Search cant understand "Inmate attacks guard but gets stopped by other prisoners" but it will pick right up on "guard" or "attack".
Link Posted: 11/5/2009 4:31:59 AM EST
I have a friend who spends a lot of his life in and out of the system. Inside there are many unwritten rules, and one of the big ones is you respect the elders. Older people can't defend themselves very well, and I asked him once if they were taken advantage. He told me that anybody who beats on or assaults an older inmate would be dealt with very harshly by just about any inmate available. "You respect the elders."

That guards age may have been his disadvantage in the fight, but it may also have been part of the reason he was rescued.
Link Posted: 11/5/2009 4:42:01 AM EST
I have also been told that most prisoners respect the police and their guards for the most part and consider them to be "doing their job" when they arrest them. YMMV
Link Posted: 11/5/2009 4:43:02 AM EST
When working custody, I was told by more than a few inmates that I'd be protected because I treated them with respect and I was cool. I also had a kid that was coming up to "have it out with me" and the pod boss stepped in and clocked the guy. I had to put him in lockdown for a week, but he understood and said he'd do it again for me because I was the coolest guy who worked there.

I do the same thing when working the street. I'm cool and respectful until you won't let me be.

There are rules in jails/prison. Not all the people in jail are pieces of shit.
Link Posted: 11/5/2009 4:58:48 AM EST
Originally Posted By DueNorth:
Not surprised really, most inmates are drug addicts that commit crimes under the influence of drugs. Take the drugs away and they start to turn into a shadow of their former selves. I have a friend who will give you the shirt off his back, but one hit of crack later he will steal your wallet.

Yes, there are the exceptions that are scum all the time.

Now flame away with the all criminals deserve death.


Lot of truth there.
Link Posted: 11/5/2009 5:02:47 AM EST
Even people in jail know that beating on an older guy isn't worth a damn.
Link Posted: 11/5/2009 5:09:26 AM EST
The deputy never made it out of his chair. Some bad situational awareness.

I was glad to see the other inmates help ... even more impressed that the responding officers didn't come in swinging at anyone in orange.
Link Posted: 11/5/2009 5:26:49 AM EST
The older deputy has probably been on the job long enough to know how to gain the respect of the prisoners, and as a result they came to his aid. Granted his situational awareness was poor but past actions may have saved his life.
Link Posted: 11/5/2009 5:28:13 AM EST
Why doesn't this fun stuff go on when I'm in there?
Link Posted: 11/5/2009 5:29:05 AM EST
This is why I have never understood deputies and correctional officers who physically/verbally abuse inmates. It may come back to bite you in the ass one day.
Link Posted: 11/5/2009 5:34:09 AM EST
Lucky guy.
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