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1/2/2011 10:18:03 AM EDT
How does one become an informant ? Without being under investigation ? Is it lucrartive at all or is that just bs ?
1/2/2011 10:19:33 AM EDT
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What are you under investigation for?
1/2/2011 10:22:34 AM EDT
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How does one become an informant ? Without being under investigation ? Is it lucrartive at all or is that just bs ?




I'd say it isn't lucrative. Most informants are working off a charge. Many are crime watch captains or just concerned people on the block. Occasionally you might get some money from Crime Stoppers for giving up some douchebag who has been on the run.
1/2/2011 10:24:27 AM EDT
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What are you under investigation for?


Im not.
1/2/2011 10:29:09 AM EDT
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How does one become an informant ? Without being under investigation ? Is it lucPrartive at all or is that just bs ?


I'd say it isn't lucrative. Most informants are working off a charge. Many are crime watch captains or just concerned people on the block. Occasionally you might get some money from Crime Stoppers for giving up some douchebag who has been on the run.


Yea I know how criminals end up bein snitches. I was hopin maybe I could make a lil money at it. Something to do while unemployed. Ive always been good at blending in and people like to tell me shit. Growing up I had a cop that,used to pay me to dime out dealers,thought maybe it could work as an adult .
1/2/2011 10:30:38 AM EDT
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What are you under investigation for?


Im not.


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1/2/2011 10:31:04 AM EDT
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nevermind.
1/2/2011 10:37:13 AM EDT
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nevermind.


? Ok im surprised
1/2/2011 10:40:18 AM EDT
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What are you under investigation for?


Im not.


It depends.  I use paid informants on a regular basis.  You won't get rich but it can put some decent change in your pocket.  However, there is alot more to it than most people think.

Ie you have to hang,with dirtbags, has to be solid intel, watch your 6 etc. ok but how were your paid informants selected ? Im sure it wasnt "hehey dood can I be your snitch" lol
1/2/2011 10:44:26 AM EDT
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nevermind.




? Ok im surprised


Start a thread in General Discussion and I'll be glad to discuss the wisdom of being a CI.

 
1/2/2011 10:48:31 AM EDT
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nevermind.


? Ok im surprised

Start a thread in General Discussion and I'll be glad to discuss the wisdom of being a CI.  


Ok ill do that
1/2/2011 10:51:56 AM EDT
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Sounds like a good way to end up in an alley with a massive head injury.
1/2/2011 10:53:35 AM EDT
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IBTM



In before the move
1/2/2011 11:11:47 AM EDT
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New thread in gd to preserve the integrity of this thread
1/2/2011 11:16:50 AM EDT
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The last case my dad worked was a big illegal guns case. The main informant they used was a regular guy who came to him complaining about the gun problem and what was going to be done by the cops!  My dad told him to work as an informant and buy some guns from the guys selling them and participate in the investigation The investigation was long and resulted in alot of hard time being passed out. The only thing the guy got was a check to cover a partial cell phone bill when he used the phone while acting like a crook to buy guns.
   He was a garbage man while doing this, became a prison guard and tried to become a cop but failed.
1/2/2011 12:25:14 PM EDT
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If you wanna make money, you gotta work for the feds.  I know some fed informants who were making $30k a year.....some I've heard about were making more.

I worked a case with the feds (I'm local LEO) and we had a real good informant.  He was making $1000 per buy.  Of course, he was gonna be testifying if need be and was buying 1 oz-1/4 lb of meth at a time.  

I'd look for a better part time job.  No real future in the informant biz.
1/2/2011 12:40:25 PM EDT
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Do informants ever rat each other out to the bgs ? Like to eliminate the competition or double dip ?
1/2/2011 12:43:19 PM EDT
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Being under investigation obviously does not pay well.  Conducting the investigation can be however

AFAIK just providing information is what any good person should do anyway.  Now I have gone through the trouble to arrange for a criminal to be at a certain location at a certain time in order to be apprehended by the local task force.  Win-win scenario I thought since I was being paid for my efforts anyway and LEO's get their man off the street.  He had a reward under Crime Stoppers also but they stiffed me;  I was licensed PI working for surety company but CS literally told me "we don't pay bounty hunters".  This was many years ago.  I've arranged for some others with known warrants to get arrested also but don't even bother with CS, I don't hold them in high respect.
1/2/2011 1:09:49 PM EDT
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Being under investigation obviously does not pay well.  Conducting the investigation can be however

AFAIK just providing information is what any good person should do anyway.  Now I have gone through the trouble to arrange for a criminal to be at a certain location at a certain time in order to be apprehended by the local task force.  Win-win scenario I thought since I was being paid for my efforts anyway and LEO's get their man off the street.  He had a reward under Crime Stoppers also but they stiffed me;  I was licensed PI working for surety company but CS literally told me "we don't pay bounty hunters".  This was many years ago.  I've arranged for some others with known warrants to get arrested also but don't even bother with CS, I don't hold them in high respect.


I thought about and have looked into the bounty hunter thing. Big pain in the ass here liability bla bla . Easier to infiltrate and collect.
1/2/2011 1:13:32 PM EDT
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Our informants get to pick a meal off the value menu at Whataburger.

And no, I'm not kidding. Each successful buy, piece of credible intel, etc nets them 1 free meal at Whataburger.
1/2/2011 1:17:29 PM EDT
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Our informants get to pick a meal off the value menu at Whataburger.

And no, I'm not kidding. Each successful buy, piece of credible intel, etc nets them 1 free meal at Whataburger.


Wow that sucks lol. That pattymelt thing they had was good though.
1/2/2011 2:00:11 PM EDT
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There are all different levels of informants.

Most of them are working off cases. Very few of them are "just trying to help out and make a buck."

The ones who are regular paid informants usually started out by being busted, working off their case, and then producing enough information or contacts to be used again.

The paid informants run their course. They are either jailed on another case they pick up, are found out by the bad guys, or are of no longer use to the agency and are thrown back to the wolves like the trash they are.

A paper route is a better form of income if you are just trying to make some cash.
1/2/2011 2:49:49 PM EDT
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Leave the information gathering to those who have been doing it for a while. "Infiltrating" a criminal network to help the police will do nothing but get people hurt and might get the "Infiltrator" arrested or beat. You've got to think what you are willing to do to be accepted. I did undercover drug work for 3 years. I do general investigation now. I've found working with CIs is like babysitting 2 year olds. They've all got their game and they all have their issues. Most times they want to burn the competition or someone that has done them wrong. Its all the same to me. We get another bad guy off the street and sooner or later someone will come with info on the CI again.



Then you get the block watch captain who makes you her personal cop. To them every guy dropping off the neighbor's daughter is a drug dealer. Every group of kids walking down the street are Crips or Bloods. Yes, occasionally they get good info but most times they call cuz they are bored. It's the cop's job to be professional and courteous and filter through the bullshit.



Then you have the guys who want to help. They don't have any information and don't know many of the bad guys but they think you can get them in so they can get you information. It doesn't work that way. Why use a Joe off the street when there are more then enough scumbags willing to put a knife in their druggy partners back? Why put Joe off the street in harm's way when there are people who have already put themselves there willing to do the deed?



We've had some CIs who have come around and asked to get paid to do work after they work off their charge. They'll come out and do Buy Busts and make cold calls and stuff. Most times, again, it is to take out someone who screwed them over. They're happy to walk away with $20 at the end of a long night. They'd make better money delivering pizzas but that's too much like work.
1/2/2011 2:50:35 PM EDT
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I'm surprised that someone who has alleged various malfeasances by LE on a number of occasions in GD would have any desire to associate with/provide assistance to LE.
1/2/2011 2:54:54 PM EDT
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Being under investigation obviously does not pay well. Conducting the investigation can be however



AFAIK just providing information is what any good person should do anyway. Now I have gone through the trouble to arrange for a criminal to be at a certain location at a certain time in order to be apprehended by the local task force. Win-win scenario I thought since I was being paid for my efforts anyway and LEO's get their man off the street. He had a reward under Crime Stoppers also but they stiffed me; I was licensed PI working for surety company but CS literally told me "we don't pay bounty hunters". This was many years ago. I've arranged for some others with known warrants to get arrested also but don't even bother with CS, I don't hold them in high respect.


In my county you have to give the information on the wanted person through Crime Stoppers. There are times when we can work a couple dollars out of them for people that give us information that leads to an arrest. There's got to be some kind of record that a person gave the information for them to collect...

1/2/2011 2:58:03 PM EDT
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I'm surprised that someone who has alleged various malfeasances by LE on a number of occasions in GD would have any desire to associate with/provide assistance to LE.


see you have me all wrong my friend. see just because i have known bad people and seen bad shit does not mean that i am one of THOSE PEOPLE . ive actually spent much time at gatherings with large amounts of LEO and sold quite a few firearms to them as well. Not to be pegged as a wannabe bjut ive got some disqualifying factors that prevent me from doing so. ie health, lack of education
1/2/2011 3:01:26 PM EDT
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I'm surprised that someone who has alleged various malfeasances by LE on a number of occasions in GD would have any desire to associate with/provide assistance to LE.


see you have me all wrong my friend. see just because i have known bad people and seen bad shit does not mean that i am one of THOSE PEOPLE . ive actually spent much time at gatherings with large amounts of LEO and sold quite a few firearms to them as well. Not to be pegged as a wannabe bjut ive got some disqualifying factors that prevent me from doing so. ie health, lack of education


No, I'm pretty sure I have you figured out.
1/2/2011 3:06:31 PM EDT
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I'm surprised that someone who has alleged various malfeasances by LE on a number of occasions in GD would have any desire to associate with/provide assistance to LE.


see you have me all wrong my friend. see just because i have known bad people and seen bad shit does not mean that i am one of THOSE PEOPLE . ive actually spent much time at gatherings with large amounts of LEO and sold quite a few firearms to them as well. Not to be pegged as a wannabe bjut ive got some disqualifying factors that prevent me from doing so. ie health, lack of education


No, I'm pretty sure I have you figured out.


id love to hear your theory ? but this is not the place
1/2/2011 9:36:12 PM EDT
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I'm surprised that someone who has alleged various malfeasances by LE on a number of occasions in GD would have any desire to associate with/provide assistance to LE.



I heard you say that in Al Swearengen's voice...cracked me up.





 
1/3/2011 1:57:30 PM EDT
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It would probably pay better to get in with the criminals and rip them off.

I'd start by watching Burn Notice.  

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1/3/2011 1:59:17 PM EDT
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It would probably pay better to get in with the criminals and rip them off.

I'd start by watching Burn Notice.  

Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile
1/3/2011 3:36:10 PM EDT
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Our informants get to pick a meal off the value menu at Whataburger.

And no, I'm not kidding. Each successful buy, piece of credible intel, etc nets them 1 free meal at Whataburger.


LOL........Thats funny shit right there.

I cant tell you the number of times I've put fuel in peoples tanks, bought them groceries or a meal for info. Hell...one of the biggest dope pops I've ever had came from a 2 bit whore that needed cigarettes. She rolled over on an ex and I worked my magic and got a stop on his car. He has just under 500 grams of crystal on him at the time.
1/3/2011 4:01:26 PM EDT
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Our informants get to pick a meal off the value menu at Whataburger.

And no, I'm not kidding. Each successful buy, piece of credible intel, etc nets them 1 free meal at Whataburger.


LOL........Thats funny shit right there.

I cant tell you the number of times I've put fuel in peoples tanks, bought them groceries or a meal for info. Hell...one of the biggest dope pops I've ever had came from a 2 bit whore that needed cigarettes. She rolled over on an ex and I worked my magic and got a stop on his car. He has just under 500 grams of crystal on him at the time.


Who uses the word two bit whore anymore?!?
1/3/2011 5:10:53 PM EDT
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Our informants get to pick a meal off the value menu at Whataburger.

And no, I'm not kidding. Each successful buy, piece of credible intel, etc nets them 1 free meal at Whataburger.


LOL........Thats funny shit right there.

I cant tell you the number of times I've put fuel in peoples tanks, bought them groceries or a meal for info. Hell...one of the biggest dope pops I've ever had came from a 2 bit whore that needed cigarettes. She rolled over on an ex and I worked my magic and got a stop on his car. He has just under 500 grams of crystal on him at the time.


Who uses the word two bit whore anymore?!?


<––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––This guy
1/3/2011 6:12:25 PM EDT
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Being under investigation obviously does not pay well. Conducting the investigation can be however

AFAIK just providing information is what any good person should do anyway. Now I have gone through the trouble to arrange for a criminal to be at a certain location at a certain time in order to be apprehended by the local task force. Win-win scenario I thought since I was being paid for my efforts anyway and LEO's get their man off the street. He had a reward under Crime Stoppers also but they stiffed me; I was licensed PI working for surety company but CS literally told me "we don't pay bounty hunters". This was many years ago. I've arranged for some others with known warrants to get arrested also but don't even bother with CS, I don't hold them in high respect.

In my county you have to give the information on the wanted person through Crime Stoppers. There are times when we can work a couple dollars out of them for people that give us information that leads to an arrest. There's got to be some kind of record that a person gave the information for them to collect...



In this case it was well documented, especially since I was the one who set it all up and contacted the task force to show for the party (already met up with them prior and set up some coordination while we were both locating said scum bag).  CS just had a different view on it I guess, no big deal overall since the surety company was paying me anyway; just distasteful IMHO in CS's attitude and implied insult.  Years ago under the bridge anyway.