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Posted: 12/28/2012 4:04:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/28/2012 10:51:35 PM EDT by 98_1LE]
EDIT: This is his TGT account


First question, is it against arfcom rules to post the screen caps from my phone, including phone number? Name of the scammer?

Anyway, I posted a VEPR12 for a gouge price of $1850 with 5 mags (2 5-rd Molot, 2 12-rd SGM & 1 8-rd Izzy). I didn't want to sell it, but could use the cash. Within minutes a local guy claims it "I'll take it".

Some texts and we agree to meet in the morning. We meet but he has $1200 and tries to talk me into it. I walk and he later calls me with a sob story, and I agree to $1500. He gets the shotty for $1200, and his buddy buys the mags for $300. I wondered if it was legit, but most people don't give out their phone number. And I guess I am a trusting fool.

Within minutes of selling him the shotty and driving off, while waiting for his buddy to text me back, his buddy texts offering $175 for the mags. Right then I knew I was tag teamed. He tried to bs his way out, and later someone from the same phone is asking WTF these texts are about.

It seems the buyer used someone elses phone.

So yeah the gun is his; I sold it. I know there is no legal recourse, but wanted to share my stupidity.
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 4:06:27 PM EDT
Sorry man.
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 4:07:35 PM EDT
probably a prohibited buyer on top of it
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 4:07:55 PM EDT
Cash talks, BS walks. Sorry bro.
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 4:07:58 PM EDT
Originally Posted By sharky30:
probably a prohibited buyer on top of it


He had a CHL.
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 4:09:11 PM EDT
I would of told him to eat shit and die. Live and learn i suppose.
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 4:09:35 PM EDT
lol
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 4:10:07 PM EDT
-1 the Motherfornicator..... If he can't go about it honestly, then fuhgeddabowdit! That's friggin' BS just to save a couple hundred bucks.
Shoulda told him to buy the the lot and sell the mags to his bud himself.


Link Posted: 12/28/2012 4:10:15 PM EDT
Trust no one.
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 4:11:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/28/2012 4:14:36 PM EDT by jh1990]
Where did you post the WTS at?
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 4:11:41 PM EDT
Name drop on that fool.
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 4:11:53 PM EDT
He's a member of this board?
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 4:12:01 PM EDT
I don't think you were scammed, just lied to. Next time tell the guy he can work out whatever deal he wants to with his buddy, but you're selling your shit for $1500. No $1500? No shit. Lesson learned, move on.
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 4:13:01 PM EDT

Originally Posted By jh1990:
I would of told him to eat shit and die. Live and learn i suppose.

Yep; if someone agrees to meet me and then doesn't have all the cash, I have absolutely no compunction about telling him to go fuck himself.
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 4:13:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/28/2012 4:13:38 PM EDT by 98_1LE]
It was Texas gun trader. He is a member here from the conversation but I don't know his S/N.

I wouldn't say scammed if he hadn't used someone elses phone to fool me.

And yes I realize I am a moron. Lesson learned.
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 4:16:00 PM EDT

Originally Posted By HiramRanger:
Cash talks, BS walks. Sorry bro.

THIS
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 4:16:57 PM EDT
Like you guys wouldn't pull the same shit and pat yourself in the back for being so bright.
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 4:17:58 PM EDT
Originally Posted By DanTSX:
Like you guys wouldn't pull the same shit and pat yourself in the back for being so bright.


It never crossed my mind.
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 4:18:54 PM EDT
Is it against arfcom rules to post names, phone numbers or the screen caps from the texts?
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 4:19:18 PM EDT
Why wasn't the mag buyer there too? I wouldn't have gave up the gun without the mag deal going on at the same time.
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 4:19:37 PM EDT
Cue Red Forman pic
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 4:19:59 PM EDT
You CANNOT post people's real info, but their user names on forums is OK.
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 4:20:40 PM EDT
Originally Posted By DanTSX:
Like you guys wouldn't pull the same shit and pat yourself in the back for being so bright.


Sarcasm I hope.
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 4:22:05 PM EDT
Originally Posted By jh1990:
Originally Posted By DanTSX:
Like you guys wouldn't pull the same shit and pat yourself in the back for being so bright.


Sarcasm I hope.


Uh yeah
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 4:22:14 PM EDT
So you sold a VEPR 12 for $1200.

I wouldn't let anyone know I was that dumb.
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 4:22:31 PM EDT
Was this done over the EE?
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 4:23:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/28/2012 4:28:43 PM EDT by SteelonSteel]
Originally Posted By stoner63a:
-1 the Motherfornicator..... If he can't go about it honestly, then fuhgeddabowdit! That's friggin' BS just to save a couple hundred bucks.
Shoulda told him to buy the the lot and sell the mags to his bud himself.




This is the way. I had a guy try to do something similar with a rifle/scope combo. Tried to get me to take the scope off and his buddy would come by later. Nothing doing, buy the rifle as is and he can sell his buddy the scope or show up together. They did not get either and i sold it on a board and made $300 more than I was asking locally and had 2 more buyers lined up to if the first deal fell through. I made money on the rifle but apparently I was undervaluing it. (rem 700 ti mountain)

Link Posted: 12/28/2012 4:23:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/28/2012 4:24:05 PM EDT by Procyon]
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 4:24:58 PM EDT
You were robbed....fill out stolen rifle report at local police station.
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 4:26:05 PM EDT
Originally Posted By DanTSX:
Originally Posted By jh1990:
Originally Posted By DanTSX:
Like you guys wouldn't pull the same shit and pat yourself in the back for being so bright.


Sarcasm I hope.


Uh yeah


You never know these days.
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 4:27:49 PM EDT
Originally Posted By KalihiJack:
You were robbed....fill out stolen rifle report at local police station.


Yep

Link Posted: 12/28/2012 4:29:23 PM EDT
Originally Posted By TXJoe:
Originally Posted By KalihiJack:
You were robbed....fill out stolen rifle report at local police station.


Yep



Link Posted: 12/28/2012 4:31:35 PM EDT
At least you can still sell the mags for $1000 on ebay.
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 5:40:11 PM EDT
Originally Posted By KalihiJack:
You were robbed....fill out stolen rifle report at local police station.





+1
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 5:44:02 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 98_1LE:
It was Texas gun trader. He is a member here from the conversation but I don't know his S/N.

I wouldn't say scammed if he hadn't used someone elses phone to fool me.

And yes I realize I am a moron. Lesson learned.

Yep. Cash in hand for the deal. No cash or short cash... no deal.
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 5:48:02 PM EDT
Originally Posted By DanTSX:
Like you guys wouldn't pull the same shit and pat yourself in the back for being so bright.


I ain't smart enough to think up ways to scam people.
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 6:19:59 PM EDT
Originally Posted By DanTSX:
Like you guys wouldn't pull the same shit and pat yourself in the back for being so bright.


Nah, principles aside, karma is a bitch.
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 6:23:06 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 6:26:42 PM EDT
Originally Posted By 98_1LE:
First question, is it against arfcom rules to post the screen caps from my phone, including phone number? Name of the scammer?

Anyway, I posted a VEPR12 for a gouge price of $1850 with 5 mags (2 5-rd Molot, 2 12-rd SGM & 1 8-rd Izzy). I didn't want to sell it, but could use the cash. Within minutes a local guy claims it "I'll take it".

Some texts and we agree to meet in the morning. We meet but he has $1200

.


The deal would have ended right there for me.
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 6:26:56 PM EDT
Live and learn.
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 6:27:35 PM EDT
i dont see how you were scammed here

you willingly sold your weapon for 1200 and you still have your mags, right?

other than under-pricing the weapon, I see no problem
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 6:28:43 PM EDT
I expected something totally different based off the title

That sucks though, OP
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 6:29:32 PM EDT
Yeah definitely wouldn't be so trusting
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 6:32:15 PM EDT
this is why i post a price i am willing to take and wont take one dollar less. Sob story or not. No money no deal.
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 6:43:16 PM EDT
He agreed to a price, and at the F2F tried to pull the "this is all the money I have" scam?

Walk away. He's a dipshit, and interacting with him at any level is just going to waste your time.

Link Posted: 12/28/2012 6:51:32 PM EDT
Originally Posted By tweeter:
Originally Posted By DanTSX:
Like you guys wouldn't pull the same shit and pat yourself in the back for being so bright.


I ain't smart enough to think up ways to scam people.


No. Me either. But I'm smart enough to see one being pulled on me
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 6:55:10 PM EDT
Originally Posted By TXJoe:
Originally Posted By KalihiJack:
You were robbed....fill out stolen rifle report at local police station.


Yep



Nope. They will tell you it is a civil matter.
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 7:01:14 PM EDT

Originally Posted By NoVaGator:
i dont see how you were scammed here

you willingly sold your weapon for 1200 and you still have your mags, right?

other than under-pricing the weapon, I see no problem

This is what i was thinking, or am i reading something wrong in the story?
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 7:02:22 PM EDT
Never let anyone leave without all cash in hand.

Fuck them.
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 7:03:14 PM EDT
A lot of us are on TGT. Post his handle for TGT so we can avoid him.
Link Posted: 12/28/2012 7:05:26 PM EDT
I wish I could believe people were smarter but every single day you see something to prove otherwise.
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