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Posted: 3/16/2005 6:40:17 PM EST



FREEZE! I JUST HAD MY NAILS DONE!

Wed Mar 16, 6:42 PM ET Op/Ed - Ann Coulter


By Ann Coulter

How many people have to die before the country stops humoring feminists? Last week, a defendant in a rape case, Brian Nichols, wrested a gun from a female deputy in an Atlanta courthouse and went on a murderous rampage. Liberals have proffered every possible explanation for this breakdown in security except the giant elephant in the room -- who undoubtedly has an eating disorder and would appreciate a little support vis-a-vis her negative body image.


Ann Coulter



The New York Times said the problem was not enough government spending on courthouse security ("Budgets Can Affect Safety Inside Many Courthouses"). Yes, it was tax-cuts-for-the-rich that somehow enabled a 200-pound former linebacker to take a gun from a 5-foot-tall grandmother.


Atlanta court officials dispensed with any spending issues the next time Nichols entered the courtroom when he was escorted by 17 guards and two police helicopters. He looked like P. Diddy showing up for a casual dinner party.


I think I have an idea that would save money and lives: Have large men escort violent criminals. Admittedly, this approach would risk another wave of nausea and vomiting by female professors at Harvard. But there are also advantages to not pretending women are as strong as men, such as fewer dead people. Even a female math professor at Harvard should be able to run the numbers on this one.


Of course, it's suspiciously difficult to find any hard data about the performance of female cops. Not as hard as finding the study showing New Jersey state troopers aren't racist, but still pretty hard to find.


Mostly what you find on Lexis-Nexis are news stories quoting police chiefs who have been browbeaten into submission, all uttering the identical mantra after every public safety disaster involving a girl cop. It seems that female officers compensate for a lack of strength with "other" abilities, such as cooperation, empathy and intuition.


There are lots of passing references to "studies" of uncertain provenance, but which always sound uncannily like a press release from the Feminist Majority Foundation. (Or maybe it was The Pew Research Center for the People and the Press, which recently released a study claiming that despite Memogate, "Fahrenheit 911," the Richard Clarke show and the jihad against the Swift Boat Veterans, the press is being soft on Bush.)


The anonymous "studies" about female officers invariably demonstrate that women make excellent cops -- even better cops than men! One such study cited an episode of "She's the Sheriff," starring Suzanne Somers.


A 1993 news article in the Los Angeles Times, for example, referred to a "study" -- cited by an ACLU attorney -- allegedly proving that "female officers are more effective at making arrests without employing force because they are better at de-escalating confrontations with suspects." No, you can't see the study or have the name of the organization that performed it, and why would you ask?


There are roughly 118 million men in this country who would take exception to that notion. I wonder if women officers "de-escalate" by mentioning how much more money their last suspect made.


These aren't unascertainable facts, like Pinch Sulzberger's SAT scores. The U.S. Department of Justice (news - web sites) regularly performs comprehensive surveys of state and local law enforcement agencies, collected in volumes called "Law Enforcement Management and Administrative Statistics."


The inestimable economist John Lott has looked at the actual data. (And I'll give you the citation! John R. Lott Jr., "Does a Helping Hand Put Others at Risk? Affirmative Action, Police Departments and Crime," Economic Inquiry, April 1, 2000.)


It turns out that, far from "de-escalating force" through their superior listening skills, female law enforcement officers vastly are more likely to shoot civilians than their male counterparts. (Especially when perps won't reveal where they bought a particularly darling pair of shoes.)


Unable to use intermediate force, like a bop on the nose, female officers quickly go to fatal force. According to Lott's analysis, each 1 percent increase in the number of white female officers in a police force increases the number of shootings of civilians by 2.7 percent.


Adding males to a police force decreases the number of civilians accidentally shot by police. Adding black males decreases civilian shootings by police even more. By contrast, adding white female officers increases accidental shootings. (And for my Handgun Control Inc. readers: Private citizens are much less likely to accidentally shoot someone than are the police, presumably because they do not have to approach the suspect and make an arrest.)


In addition to accidentally shooting people, female law enforcement officers are also more likely to be assaulted than male officers -- as the whole country saw in Atlanta last week. Lott says: "Increasing the number of female officers by 1 percentage point appears to increase the number of assaults on police by 15 percent to 19 percent."


In addition to the obvious explanations for why female cops are more likely to be assaulted and to accidentally shoot people -- such as that our society encourages girls to play with dolls -- there is also the fact that women are smaller and weaker than men.





In a study of public safety officers -- not even the general population -- female officers were found to have 32 percent to 56 percent less upper body strength and 18 percent to 45 percent less lower body strength than male officers -- although their outfits were 43 percent more coordinated. (Here's the cite! Frank J. Landy, "Alternatives to Chronological Age in Determining Standards of Suitability for Public Safety Jobs," Technical Report, Vol. 1, Jan. 31, 1992.)

Another study I've devised involves asking a woman to open a jar of pickles.

There is also the telling fact that feminists demand that strength tests be watered down so that women can pass them. Feminists simultaneously demand that no one suggest women are not as strong as men and then turn around and demand that all the strength tests be changed. It's one thing to waste everyone's time by allowing women to try out for police and fire departments under the same tests given to men. It's quite another to demand that the tests be brawned-down so no one ever has to tell female Harvard professors that women aren't as strong as men.

Acknowledging reality wouldn't be all bad for women. For one thing, they won't have to confront violent felons on methamphetamine. So that's good. Also, while a sane world would not employ 5-foot-tall grandmothers as law enforcement officers, a sane world would also not give full body-cavity searches to 5-foot-tall grandmothers at airports.





Link Posted: 3/16/2005 6:41:49 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/16/2005 6:45:20 PM EST by Bama-Shooter]
Get in line.

ETA: I don't have an issue with female cops. About 90% of the time
it's not an issue. But when the fists start flying they can't handle it.
Same goes for small male officers. Not being mean just practicle.
Loved having a female cop when I arrested females so they could do
the frisk. But when it comes to fighting and I mean real fighting they
get to work the radio and call for help.
Link Posted: 3/16/2005 6:46:16 PM EST
Not a big Coulter fan. She has been known to make stuff up in the past...but i like this article.
Link Posted: 3/16/2005 6:48:48 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/16/2005 6:50:26 PM EST by WyattEarp]
Great article, so true.
Link Posted: 3/16/2005 6:51:11 PM EST
... Ann, if you're reading this thread - consider this post here as a formal proposal to our marriage
Link Posted: 3/16/2005 6:53:56 PM EST

Originally Posted By BURN:
Not a big Coulter fan. She has been known to make stuff up in the past...but i like this article.



Examples please?
Link Posted: 3/16/2005 6:55:13 PM EST
Link Posted: 3/16/2005 6:58:28 PM EST

Originally Posted By TRW:

Originally Posted By BURN:
Not a big Coulter fan. She has been known to make stuff up in the past...but i like this article.



Examples please?



Believe it or not but it will take me till tomorrow as I have to go looking or it and see if I can find either a video clip or printed response. Not that I don’t agree with her but she has quoted people in the past and when asked about the quote people would say I never said that. Just a little circumspect. I want to say this is mostly done in her books.
Link Posted: 3/16/2005 7:01:38 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/16/2005 7:03:31 PM EST by KhanFire]

Originally Posted By TRW:

Originally Posted By BURN:
Not a big Coulter fan. She has been known to make stuff up in the past...but i like this article.



Examples please?




www.collegehumor.com/?movie_id=120992

Direct link to video:

movies.collegehumor.com/media/movies/coulter.mov
Link Posted: 3/16/2005 7:03:41 PM EST

Originally Posted By Winston_Wolf:
... Ann, if you're reading this thread - consider this post here as a formal proposal to our marriage



get in line scumbag
Link Posted: 3/16/2005 7:04:00 PM EST
... She would SHRED ANY OF YOU BIOTCHES to pieces.

... She's welcome to lay her head upon my pillow any time
Link Posted: 3/16/2005 7:07:53 PM EST

Originally Posted By BURN:
Not a big Coulter fan. She has been known to make stuff up in the past...but i like this article.



And some have been know to make up stuff about her. But I'm sure you're willing to put your money where your ass is and provide a few verifiable references.
Link Posted: 3/16/2005 7:08:47 PM EST

Originally Posted By Winston_Wolf:
... She would SHRED ANY OF YOU BIOTCHES to pieces.

... She's welcome to lay her head upon my pillow any time



Id hit it I just wouldnt read everything she wrote down or listen to everything she said....actually I cant back that up id be wipped!
Link Posted: 3/16/2005 8:09:26 PM EST
Crazy world we live in, where Ann can make millions, and be loved and hated, just for advocating common sense.

Any of us could do the same thing. We just wouldn't sound as smart, or look as good doing it.


God bless Ann Coulter.
Link Posted: 3/16/2005 8:18:19 PM EST
I love Ann Coulter.
Link Posted: 3/16/2005 8:28:38 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/16/2005 8:28:54 PM EST by Jerad]

Originally Posted By GunWares:

Originally Posted By BURN:
Not a big Coulter fan. She has been known to make stuff up in the past...but i like this article.



And some have been know to make up stuff about her. But I'm sure you're willing to put your money where your ass is and provide a few verifiable references.



CLICK HERE FOR A VERIFIABLE REFERENCE
Link Posted: 3/17/2005 2:38:51 AM EST
Wow. One misquote of history. Hmm.

Now let us stack her one verifiable mistake against the verifiable mistakes and lies of Elanor Clift....

But I suppose that is no fun....
Link Posted: 3/17/2005 2:51:55 AM EST

Originally Posted By Winston_Wolf:
... She would SHRED ANY OF YOU BIOTCHES to pieces.


Nah. I've seen her debating skills. Her kung-fu is glaringly average. There are plenty of people on this board who, with some prep time, would own her and send her packing.

I've read her material, her latest book, and critiqued her debates. She is overrated. Most of you guys simply have a difficult time seeing past her physical appearance.
Link Posted: 3/17/2005 3:03:08 AM EST
I am not all that fond of her physical appearance. She needs a sammich, STAT. Laura Ingram is much better looking.

Link Posted: 3/17/2005 3:30:31 AM EST
I don't think she is attractive, and i don't think she comes off well at all on TV debates. But man can she lay it out on paper! She is fearless and razor sharp with what she says. I enjoy reading her.
Link Posted: 3/17/2005 4:53:51 AM EST

snip>Unable to use intermediate force, like a bop on the nose, female officers quickly go to fatal force.<snip



Judging from the one and only time I was pulled over by a fem-cop, this is probably true, I could not help but wonder if she was going to write me up or shoot me on the spot as her hand never left the butt of her gun,and her body language screamed "Make my day asshole!!" I shit you not!! At the time I actually feared for my life!!....
Link Posted: 3/17/2005 5:06:27 AM EST
Link Posted: 3/17/2005 5:10:30 AM EST

Originally Posted By AZMAN-1:

snip>Unable to use intermediate force, like a bop on the nose, female officers quickly go to fatal force.<snip



Judging from the one and only time I was pulled over by a fem-cop, this is probably true, I could not help but wonder if she was going to write me up or shoot me on the spot as her hand never left the butt of her gun,and her body language screamed "Make my day asshole!!" I shit you not!! At the time I actually feared for my life!!....



Yup. The one and only time I've ever had a firearm pointed at me was by a female officer, shaking pretty hard, with her finger ON THE TRIGGER. She was scared shitless and standing on unstable ground, to boot. It scared the piss out of me. Long story, but I got let go with a warning.
Link Posted: 3/17/2005 5:14:25 AM EST
[Last Edit: 3/17/2005 5:15:36 AM EST by 1911lover]
30 or more years ago, common sense was something that came natural to many people....at least in the rural areas where I grew up and have fortunately lived my life. However, in what appears to be vast areas of this country, and even here, it appears it is becoming a very high priced commodity as the older generations die off.

I wonder if the education sysem could get over the self-esteem thing long enough to at least attempt to "teach" common sense (read non-pc) for awhile? Probably too much to ask, especially in the blue states. Just a wacky thought.
Link Posted: 3/17/2005 5:19:23 AM EST
I won't ask for an Ann......I'd settle for a republican. Southern women seem to all be democrats......
Link Posted: 3/17/2005 5:27:18 AM EST
Smart and hot! Intimidating isn't it?
Link Posted: 3/17/2005 5:28:40 AM EST

Originally Posted By Jerad:

Originally Posted By GunWares:

Originally Posted By BURN:
Not a big Coulter fan. She has been known to make stuff up in the past...but i like this article.



And some have been know to make up stuff about her. But I'm sure you're willing to put your money where your ass is and provide a few verifiable references.



CLICK HERE FOR A VERIFIABLE REFERENCE



That isnt making stuff up. She actually thought it WAS fact. It is a misquote of something she thought was true but was corrected on. As far as "I'll get back to you on that", that isnt a formal reply promise. I doubt everyone has time to just mail whichever network with "Sorry I was wrong" if there is a misquote.

I know that when I say something and am corrected, I am not making it up. I thought it was true and was mistaken. Coulter still has all the credibility she had before with me.
Link Posted: 3/17/2005 5:29:17 AM EST
Link Posted: 3/17/2005 5:29:41 AM EST

Originally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin:

Originally Posted By Winston_Wolf:
... She would SHRED ANY OF YOU BIOTCHES to pieces.


Nah. I've seen her debating skills. Her kung-fu is glaringly average. There are plenty of people on this board who, with some prep time, would own her and send her packing.

I've read her material, her latest book, and critiqued her debates. She is overrated. Most of you guys simply have a difficult time seeing past her physical appearance.



Debating is to life as playing Risk is to waging war. Who cares? Kerry was a good debater. Who cares?

That you have "read her material, her latest book, and critiqued her debates" certainly makes me feel better, and I know Ann is relieved as well. I'm sure if you contact her she would be glad to hire you as an editorial assistant.
Link Posted: 3/17/2005 5:33:43 AM EST
[Last Edit: 3/17/2005 5:34:17 AM EST by EricTheHun]
Link Posted: 3/17/2005 5:45:08 AM EST

Originally Posted By EricTheHun:

Originally Posted By arowneragain:
I won't ask for an Ann......I'd settle for a republican. Southern women seem to all be democrats......


You must be looking for love in all the wrong places, then.

Tennessee women are all Demos?

You need to get to Texas, where all the really good looking chicks are Republicans!

Eric The(AllMySouthernChicksAreRepublican)Hun



TN, MS, AL.........

Too many folks around here still have that 'democratic party of yesterday' mentality, and it rubs off on their kids, who don't have enough sense to know better.........



Maybe Ann could set up a re-education camp here in the south.......
Link Posted: 3/17/2005 5:47:53 AM EST

Originally Posted By EricTheHun:
Post from Wobblin-Goblin -

Nah. I've seen her debating skills. Her kung-fu is glaringly average.

Where'd you see her debating skills?

On Fox? Even on Fox, they seldom let her get a word in edgewise with her liberal opponent.

Have you seen in her in a formal debate, or in a lengthy exchange with someone else?

If so, when and where?

I'd like to watch those debates and exchanges, as well.

Eric The(Inquisitive)Hun



All I've ever seen is her on FOX, and she comes across kind of childish to me. A lot of "I know you are but what am I" type replies. In print I love her stuff. Very sarcastic and she finds ways to turn arguements around on libs which is always funny.

Everyone can mis-quote a person or incorrectly cite a reference. If they can only find one or two that does not make a person a liar. If her books were filled with them that would be something else.
Link Posted: 3/17/2005 5:51:22 AM EST
Once again, "I love Ann".

And, as far as the "giant elephant in the room", i.e., the silliness of women police officers, I've been saying that for years.

Women make great interviewers for small children and some women victims. They have no place on the street. Or as guards for prisoners, such as in Atlanta.

I know many of you disagree with me on that. But that is my honest opinion.
Link Posted: 3/17/2005 5:51:57 AM EST
She's hot only if you don't mind the adam's apple.
Link Posted: 3/17/2005 5:52:10 AM EST

Originally Posted By BURN:
Not a big Coulter fan. She has been known to make stuff up in the past...but i like this article.



+1

I like this article, but she's VERY hit and miss. A smart, yet conniving skank. IMHO.

If she were a wine, she'd be $6.99 per gallon box.


Link Posted: 3/17/2005 6:00:39 AM EST
I like it that "women have better listening skills" gets a pass. No feminist will call bullshit on this.

Ann isn't a debater, she's a bull in the china shop ...of stupid ideas. She does cite plenty of studies and makes you aware that some of the BS is "without merit" let alone studies. The phony stuff she throws in from time to time is meant to be humourous but I'm sure her detractors will zero in on it as some proof of her sanity.

Ann for President of Harvard
Link Posted: 3/17/2005 6:02:35 AM EST
We need Ann, you nay-sayers. She's attractive and extremely well spoken- and a conservative. Liberals hate her with a burning passion because she tells it like it is, not what the thought police want her to say.

Rock on, Ann.


(And for my Handgun Control Inc. readers: Private citizens are much less likely to accidentally shoot someone than are the police, presumably because they do not have to approach the suspect and make an arrest.)


Love it.
Link Posted: 3/17/2005 6:04:13 AM EST

Originally Posted By Old_Painless:
Once again, "I love Ann".

And, as far as the "giant elephant in the room", i.e., the silliness of women police officers, I've been saying that for years.

Women make great interviewers for small children and some women victims. They have no place on the street. Or as guards for prisoners, such as in Atlanta.




+1

OMG, I actually agree with Old_Painless
Link Posted: 3/17/2005 6:14:42 AM EST

Originally Posted By banthony1:

+1

OMG, I actually agree with Old_Painless



There.

That wasn't so hard, now was it?
Link Posted: 3/17/2005 11:58:08 AM EST
[Last Edit: 3/17/2005 12:04:13 PM EST by Wobblin-Goblin]

Originally Posted By GunWares:
Debating is to life as playing Risk is to waging war. Who cares? Kerry was a good debater. Who cares?

That you have "read her material, her latest book, and critiqued her debates" certainly makes me feel better, and I know Ann is relieved as well. I'm sure if you contact her she would be glad to hire you as an editorial assistant.


Let me put it to you this way: If I was planning on having a round table discussion (slash) debate between a couple of conservatives and a couple of leftists...Ann would not be invited. She resorts to tactics that merely expose her shallow preparedness. It's as if regardless of the subject matter, her answers are always the same.

With my educational, public service, and occupational background (BA, History; BS, Public Speaking/Speech Education, former newspaper reporter/columnist, elected to CT General Assembly, Founder/Owner/President of a small concrete construction company), I think I am able to critique the published material and live performances of any public person. Perhaps you disagree. That's fine. This is the internet even the most unqualified people can voice their opinion and somebody will listen.
Link Posted: 3/17/2005 12:03:06 PM EST

Originally Posted By EricTheHun:
On Fox? Even on Fox, they seldom let her get a word in edgewise with her liberal opponent.

Have you seen in her in a formal debate, or in a lengthy exchange with someone else?

If so, when and where?

I'd like to watch those debates and exchanges, as well.


Even when we had cable, I never got the Fox News Channel. As far as the other sources, they were various news and political forums which I'm sure included CNN, PBS, radio, etc. We haven't had cable in a year and a half, so the actual programs are a distant memory.
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