Posted: 1/22/2003 2:40:49 PM EDT
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I've been on IRR for over two years and today, a CPT at ARPERSCOM left a message for me. She said I should know that the Army is currently sending IRR soldiers mobilization orders in the mail, and that it would be better for me to join a TPU instead in the event I get mobilized. I guess I've been confused into thinking that the IRR would be the VERY "last to go". Apparently, the Army is stretched really thin and are digging deep into their stale stash of reserved personnel. It just finally hits me that I could get a letter in the mail at anytime and in an instant, be pulled from a comfy civilian life and find myself wearing the green uniform again WITHOUT warning. I think I'll have to go TPU so at least I can properly prepare for mobilization, if it comes. [b]Has anyone been or know what IMA is about?[/b] I may have to look into that too. Either way, it looks like I need to get my fatass back into shape [:D] |
| I'm in the IRR and haven't herd a thing about 'mystery orders'. Sounds like the army is trying to boost membereship in the TPU or 'ready reserve'. Individual mobilization augmentee, (IMA), are soldiers who don't drill with a unit but know who they will be mobilized with if it happens. Unless you have a super critical MOS,(do you?), they won't be calling the IRR anytime soon. I'm an E-5 MP and they activated all the reserve MP units in my area (NYC) without calling me. |
| Interesting - I'm currently IRR. I ETS'd December 26th 2002. Left active Army - 1AD, my MOS is/was 92-Y supply/armorer....curious how this may effect me as I've put in paperwork to the Coast Guard to enlist as a Gunners Mate. The National Guard recruiters were harassing the hell out of me for awhile - already did the Guard thing once - hopefully this doesn't screw up my paperwork. |
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The AF IMA guys I've talked to love it. Lot's more leeway than Guard. If you really don't want to go, tell them you're a crackhead, or gay. Maybe a gay crackhead would be ideal. Some of my buddies have gotten called out of the IRR, and they got orders cut for two years. TWO Friggin' YEARS. If I see an envelope from Uncle Sugar in the mail, I'm going straight down to the Army recruiter and going back AD. I don't want to go anywhere right now, but I'll be damned if I'm sitting in a gate shack Stateside for the next 24 months. |
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OK, let me preface this by saying I a did NOT write this, my best friend did. He is currently a Captain in a reserve combat engineering unit stationed out of Ft. Meade, MD. His wife is a signal corps Captain. "1. In '91 the Army yanked folks out of the reserves and the guard to back fill empty slots in the active forces. When they called up the TPUs they had no one left and filled the slots with IRR. Needless to say, they ended up with entire units of strangers that had no idea what they where doing as a unit. Thus, the new idea is to back fill the empty slots with IRR, and leave the TPUs with folks when they get deployed. 2. IMA is basicly just two weeks a year, and no weekend work. You get paid for the time, but do not get enough points for a good year twords retirment (without doing something else). 3. I know two close friends that have already recieved their 'lest go and play' letters. My wife (an IRR CPT) and several others I know have recieved a 'clean-up your records and get a physical' letter. A clear indication that they are scrubbing the rosters. 4. Bottom line, even with active/reserve/and IRR the Army is smaller than in '91. If they need you, you are going. SAPPERS LEAD THE WAY" [b]I can redirect any abuse or corrections to him. Thank you.[/b] Ed |
| I though IRR was for the duration of your 8 year contract. When I came in (98) it was an 8 year contract regardless. Most chose 4 active/4 inactive reserve. I did just that and got stoplossed 2 weeks prior to my ETS. Now I'ts going to be 5 active/3 reserve (either active or incactive). That's all dependant on my fat ass losing soem weight so I don't get a bar from re-enlistment for being tubby. If I can find a copy of my time in Marine Corps DEP I'll knock another year off of my reserve time. On the brite side I've got enough points to retire, just need 15 more years. That way it I live to be 60 I'll get a retirement check. |
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Quoted: That's all dependant on my fat ass losing soem weight so I don't get a bar from re-enlistment for being tubby. [size=6]Fat Kids Rule[/size=6] I just got out of the Army(kind of, im still on leave 20 more days) It would really suck if i got called up on IRR or Stop-lossed just days before im done. That would suck even more cause im flagged and bared for being overweight. |
| I did my time. I have always said that if they called me back up I would show up at the Rep Dep in a Klan outfit with a pink triangle on the breast, smoking a joint, with a box of Zantac in my pocket and a bag of soiled sheets in the other. I would pretend to be a gay, dope smoking Klansman with an ulcer who wets the bed. Think it would work? |
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Quoted: I did my time. I have always said that if they called me back up I would show up at the Rep Dep in a Klan outfit with a pink triangle on the breast, smoking a joint, with a box of Zantac in my pocket and a bag of soiled sheets in the other. I would pretend to be a gay, dope smoking Klansman with an ulcer who wets the bed. Think it would work? Uh, I don't think I'd want to see that if it happened. Then again it'd be like a train wreck in slo mo...just couldn't look away! [B]stingerjg[/B] Were you really berred from re-enlistment due to being fat? Or was that a poke at my belly ([doughboy]hmmhmmm[/doughboy]) I wasn't that (this?) fat when I got stoplossed. I just got pissed off and said "fuck it" to everything the Army said I had to do. Looks like I'm leaving Monday...I'll have to eat a few days leave, but I'm getting out. Hell I've got 79.5 days on the books now! |
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IRR / IMA personnel are being called to active duty to fill vacancies in TPU(reserve and gaurd)units that have been or are being prepared to mobilize. If you have recently got off of active duty and have any time remaining on your commitment you are in the IRR(Inactive Ready Reserve) if you know it are not, and are subject to callup if they need your MOS. I know people that are currently being activated from the IRR as well as being transferred from one reserve unit to another to fill shortages. Some of these personnel are being activated by their secondary MOS, that's right not primary but SECONDARY MOS's. That's how thin we are right now. If you have ever been an MP, Engineer, Chemical, Transportation, or Logistics type you might be getting a set of orders. And if you think you'll backfill an AC slot either stateside or in europe, think again as about half of the units being called up right now are ending up in theater. Oh, by the way being overweight or being able to pass the PT test ain't even part of the screening during mobilization. Basically, serious medical conditions aside, if your the right grade and MOS qualified for the vacancy your subject to go. PT and weight control as some of you know are just ways we F%&k with otherwise good soldiers in peacetime to reduce our numbers and use as yardsticks for promotion. Hope I haven't broken anyone's bubble. Just trying to get the word out so you can get yourself and/or your families prepared if the situation applies to you. Now where did I put my rucksack. Wpns Man |
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Quoted: Oh, by the way being overweight or being able to pass the PT test ain't even part of the screening during mobilization. Basically, serious medical conditions aside, if your the right grade and MOS qualified for the vacancy your subject to go. PT and weight control as some of you know are just ways we F%&k with otherwise good soldiers in peacetime to reduce our numbers and use as yardsticks for promotion. Wpns Man You heard it here first, folks... |
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Quoted: Quoted: Oh, by the way being overweight or being able to pass the PT test ain't even part of the screening during mobilization. Basically, serious medical conditions aside, if your the right grade and MOS qualified for the vacancy your subject to go. PT and weight control as some of you know are just ways we F%&k with otherwise good soldiers in peacetime to reduce our numbers and use as yardsticks for promotion. Wpns Man You heard it here first, folks... Benn well aware of that for a long time. In a pinch any Joe will do... |
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Yes it's true, When I got activated for Bosnia in '96 I thought they'd give us an APFT, never happened. We also had a few "plump" soldiers who knew that when they got on the scales they wouldn't have to go, never happened. I know a CW4 who went into the IRR four years ago so he could still get some points before he's eligable to draw his retirement at age 60. Last week he got a set of orders to report to Ft. Lee the first of March to start pre-mobe screening. This guy is also heavy set, and has half a hardware store in one leg as the result of an ATV accident last year. When asked, our command surgeon said he could very well be found fit for duty at the Mobe site. I know alot of other individuals with similar stories. Other than Combat Arms types who need to be all 11111's physically, Support type MOS's who have profiles will probably pass the mobilization physical. Wpns Man CW3 913A |
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Quoted: How long are you in the IRR. Back in the old days the IRR was 2 years. You say you've already been in 2 years. What gives? Incidently, I would'nt join anything. Make them activate you. I have to serve the remainder of my 8 year committment in the IRR. Quoted: 3. I know two close friends that have already recieved their 'lest go and play' letters. My wife (an IRR CPT) and several others I know have recieved a 'clean-up your records and get a physical' letter. A clear indication that they are scrubbing the rosters. I got one of those letters in the mail 2 days ago telling me that I need to get a physical. When I saw the envelope my heart skipped a beat and thought to myself, "Is this it?" BTW, I just learned that when they send your mobilization orders, it is by registered mail. So, if I don't go to MEPS and get a physical, what are they going to do kick me out? [BD] Did his two close friends get called-up recently? What were their MOS's? Quoted: I know people that are currently being activated from the IRR as well as being transferred from one reserve unit to another to fill shortages. Some of these personnel are being activated by their secondary MOS, that's right not primary but SECONDARY MOS's. How recently were those soldiers brought-in from IRR? Which MOS's are they calling up? Quoted: Oh, by the way being overweight or being able to pass the PT test ain't even part of the screening during mobilization. Basically, serious medical conditions aside, if your the right grade and MOS qualified for the vacancy your subject to go. I guess thats nothing ALOT of PT can't cure. Quoted: You might be going Methos, I too am a 12Bravo. with a seperation date of 1/11/2003. I got orders to Kuwait. Hope to see you in country. Just need to get thru Ft lost in the woods. I hate Fort Leonard Wood in the winter. Don't get me wrong, I'll gladly go if the Army tells me to. I just perceived being mobilized from the IRR as an extremely remote possibility. Apparently, thats not the case. *** deleted the FAT comment because it came across as insensitive. *** deleted last paragraph regarding the ruck cuz it didnt quite come out right. (My apologies) [:(] |
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Most of the soldiers I know that got orders have been transferred from a TPU to another TPU. MOS wise, like I've said before they are MP's, Engineers, and Transportation types with a few Logistics MOS's to. The CW4 who just got orders is IRR and is a 920 Supply Warrant. Looks like SHIVAN's original theory makes the most sense. Make up shortages with IMA/IRR folks to "try" and preserve some cohesion in TPU units that will probably get MOB'd. I work readiness issues everyday at work to try and get units ready to go. Can't/Won't go into any details, but as most of you have figured out by now, the shit is about to hit the fan. About my rucksack, just trying to inject a little humor into this thread. I always keep my gear ready to roll. I don't ever sign out TA-50 from unit supply as I have my own stuff that I know is servicable, adjusted right, and otherwise "works", to include kevlar and body armor. Probably from my time in the Corps, but I'm anal retentive about shit like that. Wpns Man |
| I work for a civilian defense contractor. Everyone I work with was prior military. Either in IRR, retired or reserve. A guy I work with's wife is getting called back. She makes over 100K a year. Imagine the shock of loosing that kind of pay to go back into the army especially being enlisted. Ouch. She is IRR and has orders to go to Fort Gordon I believe. It's real people. It's part of what we all agreed to when we signed the paperwork. |
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Some FAQs i found regarding mobilization and the IRR at the AR-Perscom Website. ([url]https://www.2xcitizen.usar.army.mil/soldierservices/mobilization/involmobquestions.asp[/url]) [b]How many IRR soldiers may be called to active duty, and who will they be?[/b] We don't know, it depends on the needs of the Army. Those needs and numbers will change with time. [b]How does an IRR soldier seek an exemption or delay?[/b] Soldiers who receive mobilization orders are expected to comply with the order. IRR/IMA soldiers who think they may have grounds for delay or exemption must apply in writing to the AR-PERSCOM Delay and Exemption (D&E) Board Team explaining the reason(s) for application and providing the necessary information and documentary evidence. Soldiers may call the D&E team at 1-800-325-4118 x0559 for additional guidance on preparing a delay or exemption packet. Packets forwarded to AR-PERSCOM will go before the Delay and Exemption Board for a recommendation and the AR-PERSCOM Commander will make the final determination. Soldiers may appeal unfavorable board outcomes to the Department of the Army G1. The AR-PERSCOM D&E Board Team will provide instructions for this process as well. [b]How do IRR soldiers get to their mobilization sites?[/b] The order to active duty will include travel authority and information. [b]How will the soldier know that he or she has been called to active duty?[/b] The IRR soldier will receive an order from AR-PERSCOM in the form of a Western Union Mailgram. [b]What happens if the soldier fails to comply with the order?[/b] Soldiers who fail to comply with the reporting data on the order to active duty will be listed as Absent Without Leave (AWOL), and will subsequently be listed as deserters if they fail to report within 30 days. In either event, their names will be reported to military and civilian law enforcement officials and they will be subject to apprehension and criminal prosecution. [b]How long will the call of IRR personnel to active duty last?[/b] The Army is calling IRR members to active duty for up to two years. [b]Do IRR single parents have to comply with the order?[/b] Yes (see also How does an IRR soldier seek an exemption or delay?) [b]Do IRR soldiers who seek conscientious objector status have to comply with the order?[/b] Yes. No decision to exempt or delay them can be made before they report as ordered (see also How does an IRR soldier seek an exemption or delay?) [b]How many soldiers are in the IRR?[/b] More than 150,000; 60% of these are obligated since they have time remaining on their eight-year statutory military service obligation, and the remainder are voluntary members. [b]Isn't the IRR just a list of names?[/b] NO. The Army Reserve Personnel Command maintains contact with IRR members through a network of toll-free lines. IRR soldiers are either offered training opportunities, or are ordered to an annual one-day records screening and status check. [b]How long will the Reservists be away from home?[/b] Under the authority recently granted to call Ready Reserve units and personnel to active duty, the Reservists may have to serve as long as two years. |
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Thanks for the info, Methos. This'll be an eye-opener for those who thought they were through with it all. I certainly hope it works out in everyone's best interest. IMHO, I believe calling up IRR troops should be done in conjunction with the institution of the draft. Last resort kinda stuff. It must be emphasized, however, that we are, in all probability, going to war with Iraq. This will employ our troops on two fronts. We must still maintain a strategic reserve for a third front (N. Korea, China, etc.). Its going to be a helluva war - but it must be done. I feel no sorrow for our enemies and I have the highest confidence that we, as an armed force, will sustain the lowest battle casualties ever. Good luck to all. |
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Just finished my I.R.R term, received my honorable discharge and it is dated 12/31/02. I am a former E-5,MOS:14R20 and 31C20. I signed my orignal contract in 6/92 for the reserves and the contract was supposed to be for 8 years. When I enlisted active duty for three years in 12/94 they renewed the orignal 8 year term to end in 12/02 instead of 6/00. So I did a little over ten years combined reserves, active and IRR. I don't know if they need my MOSs,one is Air Defense and the other is commo but I will go if they ask me to volunteer. I might even go back to the reserves just for the hell of it i am only 29.. |
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Interesting post. I completed my IRR time in '85. No need for IRR 95BR3s for Grenada etc. Took terminal leave to attend college. Alway wandered about getting called up after ETS. Have spent 17 years working for the big defense contractors. Back in 2001, our security department hired a young woman just out of the USAF (security police). She started her first semester of college in September 2001. After 9/11, she was called up and now sits in the Gulf. Still does not know when she will be coming home. Looks like until the end of hostilities now. |