Posted: 11/4/2004 6:56:46 PM EDT
| Does anyone know the price of these are supposed to be when they hit the market in the Spring of '05 ? I was going to get another Jeep Cherokee, but I saw a picture of the H3 on the Hummer website, and it looks pretty good. Kind of like a Cherokee on steriods. |
You clearly didn't read the article I posted. |
Hell, all the H2 and H3 are are GMC pickups with a different body. Have you seen the video of the H2 snapping the front tie rod during some off roading that was not that difficult? |
| Wow, tough crowd here. I'd like to get an H1, but I left the $110 grand in my other pants. I still think the H3 looks pretty cool. There was a video on their website that showed it crawling up and down some pretty nasty looking rock structures. I think it will be offered in a 300 HP turbo version too. And no, I'm not gay. At least I don't think so. |
And we claim the anti-gunners rely on emotion-based arguments! Do I need to post some picture of REAL military HMMWV's that look worse than that one? |
Well, yes you do. 
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I've seen U.S.M.C. surplus-complete with custom camo paint job-Hummers with a diesel engine on sale at www.majorsurplusandsurvival.com. I think the last one they had was $26K out the door. I'd rather have one of those ANY DAY over a H2 or H3. |
 it looks like the one-ton dually is a little better off
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I want to see one of them get hit by a big ass 70s car, like a Lincoln or a Newport. |
+1. Here Here. |
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The H3.... or how to exceed the gayness of the H2. Again, just a funky looking body added to an existing chassis, with a much higher price tag than the original vehicle it's based on. I wonder if they will offer a neon undercarriage light kit for it?? Maybe some curb feelers or a fake turbo noise generator under the hood? With a "base" price of $30k (is that 4WD or 2WD at that price?), expect one with a few options to go over $40k. No Thanks. |
Your forget it probaly wont do what their "production intent" vehicles did. |
What isn't mentioned in the picture is that the Hummer H2 hit 4 vehicles in that accident. The pickup was only the last vehicle it hit. |
Go out and buy another Cherokee, or a 1998-2003 Chevrolet Blazer. My mom has had good luck with her 2000 LT. It can actually go off road, it looks good and you will have more fun. |
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Are they making the H3 because the H2 was only 95% gay? And just for fun: www.fuh2.com |
The article you posted involved a test of 5 handpicked pre-production models that were built with "production intent" parts. That's codespeak for "stronger, more durable and more expensive parts that hopefully won't break and embarrass us at the press introduction." In other words, the H3s that were tested are not the same as what will eventually end up on the showroom floor, they are better and stronger. The H2's tried hard, but didn't do so well. The sharp decline in sales is evidence that their bark is much worse than their bite. Even though most vehicles in their first year of production have lots of problems that have to be worked out, the H2 was particularly bad. I mean really bad. Just do a few searches and you'll find lots of first-hand stories from disappointed H2 owners. There was a huge initial hype because all of a sudden, people who only dreamed of owning a "Hummer" could now afford one. Sure, it doesn't have the same wheels, axles, suspension, transmission, engine, frame, body, interior, or manufacturer. But HEY, IT'S A HUMMER!  The GM H2s are such a far cry from the original H1, they shouldn't even be using the name. There is almost nothing similar about them, except perhaps for the fact that they both have four wheels, use some form of the "Humvee" name and share a very slight visual resemblance. If you drink lots of drano and squint through a pair of binoculars turned around backwards, they kindof look the same. (Of course, Cameron Diaz and Rosie O'Donnell look like a set of identical twin orangutans when viewed this way, or so I've heard.) I've got a video clip of what happens when you try to take an H2 on a rocky trail that would be a walk in the park for even an old Jeep CJ-5. If someone can host it, I'll email it to you. (spoiler: Things break.) The H2 and H3 are not off-road vehicles. They have very little of original H1's usefulness in this regard (You're likely to break things if you try to use the full approach angles that are possible with the short front and rear overhangs). So what does that leave them with? They are basically another one of the many "stay on the beaten path" soccor mom SUVs. And there's a whole crop of them out there that do it much better than the H2. It would be great if the H3 was better, but it doesn't look promising. They're using the same basic setup as the H2 (take a Chevy Colorado pickup frame and throw a top-heavy leaky brick of a body full of cheap plastic on it and throw in a 220 hp five cylinder engine). Unless they fundamentally redesign the thing from the ground up (which will probably drive the cost up until it's too close to the H1 to capture the particular market they are aiming at), they've got their work cut out for them. |
A picture of a real Hummer on top of a Honda. What's your point? |