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Posted: 6/4/2003 11:48:57 AM EDT
[img]http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20030601/capt.1054487625.iraq_drop_your_weapons_bag104.jpg[/img] Zainab Mustaffa, 2, looks at an M-16 and AK-47 assault rifles which are owned by her father Mustaffa prior to being turned over for licensing as they take advantage of a weapons amnesty being launched Sunday June 1, 2003 in Baghdad. U.S. and British troops launched the campaign Sunday in an effort to get Iraqis to hand over their high-powered weapons which have flooded the streets since the fall of Saddam Hussein's regime. (AP Photo/Ali Haider) We all know that's NOT an M-16. But it does have M-16 roots. Odd thing to see in Iraq though.
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 11:55:29 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/4/2003 11:56:57 AM EDT by jrzy]
I have a friend who went back to Nam for a reunion with some of his buddies,he was at a local bar and they were talking to a retired NVA reg officer and he took them to a warehouse and what was there made all thier mouths drop open,crates and crasted stacked to the cieling filled with M-16's and M-16 parts. There were crates filled with so much USGI stuff that they were awe struck, remember we left in a hurry and left a lot behind. Now add that to the fact that most of europe and asia use AK's and thats why all that stuff was sitting around ,I wonder if we could import those preban mags,there was shit loads of 20's and 30's he said. The stuff dreams are made of huh?
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 11:56:00 AM EDT
What about that pistol? Wonder if is loaded... ByteTheBullet (-:
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 12:02:20 PM EDT
I don't think that rifle is derived from an M-16. Looks more to have an AR-180 or Kalashnikov "piston" gas system. The magazine release (I presume) forward of the trigger guard look AK-ish, but in the wrong place. I don't know what it is, but I think I want one, now. Thanks, man. Just what I need - another rifle on the "to buy" list.
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 12:03:04 PM EDT
First one to say, "That ain't no freaking M-16!!"
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 12:04:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/4/2003 12:06:49 PM EDT by Lumpy196]
Its a Beretta AR70. Uses design features from both the AK and the M16. [url]http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=6&f=2&t=169480&w=myTopicPop[/url]
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 12:06:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/4/2003 12:07:00 PM EDT by thumbhole]
I think the pistol is the ever-present Eqyptian Helwan "Brigadier" Beretta copy.
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 12:10:20 PM EDT
Originally Posted By ByteTheBullet: What about that pistol? Wonder if is loaded... ByteTheBullet (-:
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Link Posted: 6/4/2003 12:11:09 PM EDT
Ah, AR70. Never seen one in real life. I'd agree wit thumbhole that pistol is probably a Helwan. The Port Authority Police in ALexandria, Egypt carry these things. You can actually hear the slide clankning aganst the frame on the rare occasion that they get up off their fat asses and walk around. They are not issued ammunition, because they sell it for the brass.
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 12:20:42 PM EDT
I agree with Lumpy. It looks like an AR70. A friend of mine used to have one. Watch-Six
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 12:20:55 PM EDT
After they are registered and confiscated how's he going to protect the kid? I just hope they give the guns back after everything is sorted out. If '04 turns out right maybe I'll own an AR70 someday [:)]
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 12:24:53 PM EDT
Isn't that the rifle Al Pacino used in HEAT?
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 12:30:49 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Stoney-Point: Isn't that the rifle Al Pacino used in HEAT?
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Link Posted: 6/4/2003 12:32:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/4/2003 12:34:16 PM EDT by Lumpy196]
Watch-Six: it IS an AR70 Flash-hider: If the ban sunsets in '04 it will have no effect on your ability to get foreign made models that were banned from import under Bush Sr.'s 1989 executive order. UNLESS they set up factories in the US to produce them. Stoney: [stick]
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