Posted: 2/23/2017 11:50:30 PM EDT
The House and senate pass a bill and President Trump signs it that says Obamacare will end on July 4, 2018. Then start work on it's replacement and tell the dems that they better get on board or get out of the way on fixing it or they get blamed for the disaster. 
Setting deadlines is how you get things done. |
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tell the dems that they better get on board or get out of the way on fixing it or they get blamed for the disaster snort. Did a bunch of republicans slip on banana peels yesterday and buy all the broadcast networks and newspapers? good luck with that, man. |
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IMO, the Republicans should have agreed to keep their yaps shut and just let it fail. Now they're on the hook and no matter what they do they're going to get pounded. By the press. By the FSA. |
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Despite news stories to the contrary, when you file your income tax, you have to answer the question about insurance and you are still liable for the fine if you don't have any. The fine is over $2,000 this year. Tax preparers are in an ethical quandary. Obamacare is still the law of the land and refusing to answer the question on the form is illegal for the preparer, whether the IRS prosecutes them or not. Tax payers can shop around until they find someone who will file an illegal return.
I like the idea of setting a date in 2018 for expiration and then working on a new law. |
| I don't think they ever planned on letting it fail or replacing it. I think as time went on they liked the idea of the power and money involved. I figured the fix was in during the GOP convention when Romney was nominated. Rubio was quoted saying if Romney didn't win, we'd be stuck with Obamacare forever. If they were going to run their mouths and promise to repeal and/or replace it, they've had several years to draw up their replacement plan, just like they've had several years to draw up a tax reduction and simplification fan. They expected Clinton to win and got caught with their thumbs up their ass, and I hope Trump starts raking them over the coals for their foot dragging and lack of work ethic. Ryan and McConnell both should be kicked out of their positions since they could have had plans ready for implementation. |
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Maybe you have not noticed but it is taking All healthcare down with it.  Quoted:
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Let it fail. It had nothing to do with healthcare. It was about insurance welfare and redistribution of income. It is unsustainable. Let it die a slow miserable death. No, Cloward and Piven is taking down healthcare and everything else. The left is fighting to overwhelm and collapse the system. Once all the insurance companies bail which they are already doing, the worst thing would be more government regulation. Pass antidiscrimination laws and let companies sell health insurance across state lines. Just like anyone can by car insurance today. The market will correct itself. |
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Despite news stories to the contrary, when you file your income tax, you have to answer the question about insurance and you are still liable for the fine if you don't have any. The fine is over $2,000 this year. Tax preparers are in an ethical quandary. Obamacare is still the law of the land and refusing to answer the question on the form is illegal for the preparer, whether the IRS prosecutes them or not. Tax payers can shop around until they find someone who will file an illegal return. I like the idea of setting a date in 2018 for expiration and then working on a new law. 
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No, Cloward and Piven is taking down healthcare and everything else. The left is fighting to overwhelm and collapse the system. Once all the insurance companies bail which they are already doing, the worst thing would be more government regulation. Pass antidiscrimination laws and let companies sell health insurance across state lines. Just like anyone can by car insurance today. The market will correct itself. Quoted:
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Let it fail. It had nothing to do with healthcare. It was about insurance welfare and redistribution of income. It is unsustainable. Let it die a slow miserable death. No, Cloward and Piven is taking down healthcare and everything else. The left is fighting to overwhelm and collapse the system. Once all the insurance companies bail which they are already doing, the worst thing would be more government regulation. Pass antidiscrimination laws and let companies sell health insurance across state lines. Just like anyone can by car insurance today. The market will correct itself. |
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It's very easy - complete repeal using reconciliation - system goes back to exactly what it was before it was passed.
Pass new plan using all R votes. If D's want to block it, paint them as obstructionists & explain to the public that we need a filibuster-proof majority in 2018 if they want it fixed. |
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The plan was to go to single payer. Quoted:
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Let it fail. It had nothing to do with healthcare. It was about insurance welfare and redistribution of income. It is unsustainable. Let it die a slow miserable death. No, Cloward and Piven is taking down healthcare and everything else. The left is fighting to overwhelm and collapse the system. Once all the insurance companies bail which they are already doing, the worst thing would be more government regulation. Pass antidiscrimination laws and let companies sell health insurance across state lines. Just like anyone can by car insurance today. The market will correct itself. Yep, and it will be damned hard to do anything else given the way it was structured (i.e. If you like your doctor, you still lose your doctor) |
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I don't think they ever planned on letting it fail or replacing it. I think as time went on they liked the idea of the power and money involved. I figured the fix was in during the GOP convention when Romney was nominated. Rubio was quoted saying if Romney didn't win, we'd be stuck with Obamacare forever. If they were going to run their mouths and promise to repeal and/or replace it, they've had several years to draw up their replacement plan, just like they've had several years to draw up a tax reduction and simplification fan. They expected Clinton to win and got caught with their thumbs up their ass, and I hope Trump starts raking them over the coals for their foot dragging and lack of work ethic. Ryan and McConnell both should be kicked out of their positions since they could have had plans ready for implementation. Agreed. The whole thing is a calculated scam. And a serious load on the system a la Cloward Piven. |
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No, Cloward and Piven is taking down healthcare and everything else. The left is fighting to overwhelm and collapse the system. Once all the insurance companies bail which they are already doing, the worst thing would be more government regulation. Pass anti discrimination laws and let companies sell health insurance across state lines. Just like anyone can by car insurance today. The market will correct itself. Much truth in this statement. The left is going all in on the effort. |
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This. The old system while not perfect, was 100% better than this current scam.. Quoted:
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It does not need to be replaced... It along with all of the other bullshit rules need to be removed. This. The old system while not perfect, was 100% better than this current scam.. Problem is, the old system has been killed off and won't come back. Obamacare was deviously designed in this way. |