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5/22/2005 4:00:58 PM EDT
I'm swiming in papers, I gotta get rid of some of this.

How long do you keep:

Carbon copies of checks/cancelled checks (which ever one you have)?
Bank statments?
Bank deposit carbon copies?
Credit card receipts?
Credit card statements?
Car loan/lease statements?
Yearly income tax packages?
Various utility, phone, cable, etc. monthly statements?
Paycheck stubs?

If ever audited, you are going to need some of that stuff, right?

So what do you keep and how long before destroying it (shred then BBQ)?
5/22/2005 4:03:55 PM EDT
[#1]
I don't have any of that, but I'd keep it 7 years, then destroy for most things, but for a mortgage or loan, until it's payed back, and then for another few years.
5/22/2005 4:04:24 PM EDT
[#2]
I keep most things about a year then I burn it, but a lot lately has been electronic so I just back it up on a disk.
5/22/2005 4:08:36 PM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
I don't have any of that, but I'd keep it 7 years, then destroy for most things, but for a mortgage or loan, until it's payed back, and then for another few years.



A friend of ours who does our taxes (and is a certified CPA) says you don't have to keep bank records/checks any longer than 7 years.

I have a file system of twelve large manila envelopes, one for each month.  All the credit card, ATM, gas, etc. reciepts, as well as the credit card statements, phone bills, etc., goes in the envelope.  

At the beginning of the month, I take everything out of the envelope (all of last year's April stuff, for example), go through it for reciepts I need to keep for warranty purposes, and shred the rest.  Once a year I pull all the old insurance documents and shred those as well.

My way of thinking is, if I haven't needed it in a year, then there aren't any questions about it and if I need it further back than that, the bank or company would have a record of it.

ETA:  I do keep the income tax packages for every year, though.  Just in case.
5/22/2005 4:14:34 PM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
A friend of ours who does our taxes (and is a certified CPA) says you don't have to keep bank records/checks any longer than 7 years.

What exatly do you need?  Just bank records and checks?  I would assume the bank still has records of your statements, and I have never received my cancelled checks, just carbon copies I make myself which mean nothing.  
What would happen if you don't show the IRS this stuff?  Ya know, a boating accident
5/22/2005 4:16:29 PM EDT
[#5]
I just rip them and chuck them.
5/22/2005 4:17:23 PM EDT
[#6]
This is my opinion, satisfaction guaranteed - twice back what you paid if you don't like it.


Quoted:
I'm swiming in papers, I gotta get rid of some of this.

How long do you keep:

Carbon copies of checks/cancelled checks (which ever one you have)?



If necessary for tax purposes, 7 years, otherwise they don't have much value beyond a year, but you could always go 2-3 years to play it safe.



Bank statments?


 Same as above.



Bank deposit carbon copies?


 If you are concerned the IRS might do a lifestyle audit, or an income reconstruction audit (where they claim all money deposited into your bank account is income unless you can prove otherwise), then 7 years.  Otherwise, unless you have some other reason to prove the details of the deposit, they don't hold much value once the bank statement arrives and you verify all the deposits have been made correctly.


Credit card receipts?


 Tax purposes - 7 years.  Warranty purposes - until the warranty runs out.  Receipts for gas and food at Hooters - until the statement shows up and you verify it's correct.



Credit card statements?


 Same as above.  They serve no real purpose otherwise beyond a year, but if you're a packrat, keep them 3 years.


Car loan/lease statements?


 Tax purposes - 7 years.  Otherwise, until you get a letter indicating you have paid in full and don't have anything due to the leasing company/lender.


Yearly income tax packages?


 Tax returns - until you die.
 Supporting documents for the returns - 7 years minimum, or until you die if they don't take up much space.



Various utility, phone, cable, etc. monthly statements?


 Tax purposes - 7 years.  Otherwise, I shred mine after I see that the last payment I made posted correctly.



Paycheck stubs?


 At least a year, to verify against your W-2.



If ever audited, you are going to need some of that stuff, right?

So what do you keep and how long before destroying it (shred then BBQ)?



The IRS can audit your return as follows:
3 years - normal audit period, starts the date you file or date return is due, whichever is later
6 years - if the IRS determines you understated gross income by 25% or more, the audit period doubles
forever - if the IRS determines your original return was fraudulent, even if you amend it later to be 100% correct

The IRS can also audit an old year that would normally be untouchable if something occured that affects a year they can audit.  For example, if you had a Net Operating Loss in 1989 and have been carrying it forward ever since, and you take an NOL deduction for 2004, they can go back an audit 1989 if they want to.  If they think your NOL calculation from 1989 was bogus, they can't change the old years, but they can deny the carryforward in any current, open year.

5/22/2005 4:21:08 PM EDT
[#7]
tax monster, THANKS!

One more question for you that I asked in another post:  What would happen if you don't show the IRS this stuff?  Let's say your just a normal person working for other people (no self owned business or anything)?
5/22/2005 9:54:50 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
tax monster, THANKS!

One more question for you that I asked in another post:  What would happen if you don't show the IRS this stuff?  Let's say your just a normal person working for other people (no self owned business or anything)?



If you get audited you mean?  That's simple - the IRS just disallows whatever it was they questioned, and you pay more tax and penalties.  The tax system is the only area where you have the burden of proof - the IRS needs to merely suggest or question a deduction, and it's up to you to prove your innocence.

If you can't meet that proof, too bad, you lose.