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Posted: 1/9/2005 9:24:10 PM EDT
I have one on my block. Some developer came and built 20 new houses on my street which used to be real nice and quiet with only 16 houses. Nobody around for 2 miles. Now we have the riff-raff and the builder is renting-to-own the houses, but the drug dealers are Section 8 with a nice new Cadillac and a kick ass stereo system that blasts my windows with the bass everytime they go by practically leaning into the back seat of the car..

But, they're dealing to some of the folks on the street. One guy even said they're dealing guns

I don't need any drive-by's! I might have to shoot back!

And no, I didn't get a deal from the guy on a new ooooozi!

Link Posted: 1/9/2005 9:25:47 PM EDT
call the police with an anonymous tip.
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 9:25:51 PM EDT
OK everyone, what's the best round to take out a coked-up illegal arms dealer?

Link Posted: 1/9/2005 9:26:16 PM EDT
offer your front window to any LEO who wishes to do surveliance on the hot tip they recieved?  

Dunno, just a thought.
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 9:27:15 PM EDT
Call the cops and dont expect much to happen, your probaly just stuck with it really.

Nice places some people get on section 8 isnt it?
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 9:28:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/9/2005 9:29:12 PM EDT by sgtar15]
Beat him on price-point and purshase in volume.  Eventually he won't be able to compete and you will control the whole market and then you can set the price to whatever you want.

Old War*Mart trick.

SGatr15
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 9:28:06 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Jeremiah_Johnson:
OK everyone, what's the best round to take out a coked-up illegal arms dealer?





230gr JHP .45acp or 168 gr BTHP .308 or 62 gr Hornady TAP .223

take your pick
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 9:28:29 PM EDT
What ever you need to do (within legal limits) do it.  I can guarantee a drug dealer wouldn't last long in my neighborhood.  
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 9:29:55 PM EDT

Originally Posted By dpmmn:

Originally Posted By Jeremiah_Johnson:
OK everyone, what's the best round to take out a coked-up illegal arms dealer?





230gr JHP .45acp or 168 gr BTHP .308 or 62 gr Hornady TAP .223

take your pick

I have .40S&W 135grJHP  1325fps 526ft/lbs
in my Springfield, will I still be ok?

Link Posted: 1/9/2005 9:30:14 PM EDT

Originally Posted By sgtar15:
Beat him on price-point and purshase in volume.  Eventually he won't be able to compete and you will control the whole market and then you can set the price to whatever you want.

Old War*Mart trick.

SGatr15



While decent its tricky and not as easy as it always seems.
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 9:30:48 PM EDT

Originally Posted By SST7Alumni:
call the police with an anonymous tip.

+1
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 9:31:19 PM EDT
or set up a vidcam and lawn chair, call the ATF, and watch'em <i>burn</i>.
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 9:32:12 PM EDT
Didn't someone get away with burning a drug dealers house once? Maybe I just dreamed that.
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 9:32:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/9/2005 9:35:17 PM EDT by poink]
what is he charging for a USP .45???

will he match $575 on another site i found?

ETA: i kid, i kid.
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 9:33:37 PM EDT

Originally Posted By SST7Alumni:
call the police with an anonymous tip.




Called many times and even had diffrent people report the guy dealing meth down the street, they didnt do a thing, been months and mutiple calls, the guy even has a prior history of it.
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 9:34:16 PM EDT

Originally Posted By sgtar15:
Beat him on price-point and purshase in volume.  Eventually he won't be able to compete and you will control the whole market and then you can set the price to whatever you want.

Old War*Mart trick.

SGatr15



now thats thinking, beat them at their own game, have you tried talking with them? i remember mentioning to one drug dealer that my dad was a DEA officer, (short hair cut, german shepard) he bought it hook line and sinker and i didn't see him around much.
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 9:34:40 PM EDT

they are like roaches, the hate light and cameras!
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 9:35:45 PM EDT


Link Posted: 1/9/2005 9:36:52 PM EDT
Let a few dogs loose in his yard.

Sooner or later a cop will show up to shoot them and hopefully he will notice the dealer as well.
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 9:38:22 PM EDT
Hide his welfare check, sect. 8 check and food stamps uner his work boots or his bar of soap.

Tasteless but funny
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 9:39:18 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 9:39:30 PM EDT
Legally? Not much you can really do.

Now, you could work outside the bounds of the law and get something accomplished however. I'd start off with recording who and when. What they drive, what time, license plate numbers, what they look like, pictures using a good camera and high zoom lens. Also get one of those long range microphone radar lookin things to see if you can pick up any conversations their having. Get more info. Who, where and when.

Once you realize the who all is involved, you will then know how to proceed.
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 9:40:43 PM EDT
Go to his house, explain the situation and your feelings, and ask him politely to move.  
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 9:42:16 PM EDT

Originally Posted By rayra:

Originally Posted By SST7Alumni:
call the police with an anonymous tip.

+1



I was visited by 2 nice deputies just this morning. It seems the dirtbags building the new houses in the lot next to mine cut my phoneline. When the phone co was out here fixing it (I had NO internet for 4 days and was going NUTS!), they accidently dialed 911...Well, the nice deputies were here just to make sure my wife was ok and my dog was still breathing...  

Well, we informed them of our neighbors and they said they had a call on them recently but didn't remember the outcome. They said they were going to drive by and look. Now, what good is a marked cruiser???? Oh well, it shows they care... I thanked them for their service and off they went.... I just want to see more happen. I doubt the locals are going to call the feds in if they think they're running guns, right? They want the bust themselves....

Anyway, my wife and dog are both ok ....
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 9:42:27 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ZW17:
Hide his welfare check, sect. 8 check and food stamps uner his work boots or his bar of soap.

Tasteless but funny




No use they started electronic deposit, it was too much work for them to get to that mailbox.
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 9:45:49 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Az_Redneck:

Originally Posted By rayra:

Originally Posted By SST7Alumni:
call the police with an anonymous tip.

+1



I was visited by 2 nice deputies just this morning. It seems the dirtbags building the new houses in the lot next to mine cut my phoneline. When the phone co was out here fixing it (I had NO internet for 4 days and was going NUTS!), they accidently dialed 911...Well, the nice deputies were here just to make sure my wife was ok and my dog was still breathing...  

Well, we informed them of our neighbors and they said they had a call on them recently but didn't remember the outcome. They said they were going to drive by and look. Now, what good is a marked cruiser???? Oh well, it shows they care... I thanked them for their service and off they went.... I just want to see more happen. I doubt the locals are going to call the feds in if they think they're running guns, right? They want the bust themselves....

Anyway, my wife and dog are both ok ....



Glad to hear the dog was okay!  I was getting worried there!  
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 10:19:39 PM EDT
Call the local narcotics unit and offer to do a controlled buy for them.
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 10:22:02 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Taxman:

Originally Posted By SST7Alumni:
call the police with an anonymous tip.




Called many times and even had diffrent people report the guy dealing meth down the street, they didnt do a thing...



That old bill of rights has a way of preventing cops from
"doing a thing about it" based on phone calls alone.  I love how people get pissed if the cops even ask to search their car, but they want the cops to go kick in the neighbors door based on a telephone tip.
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 10:23:57 PM EDT
Take pictures or video of all the cars coming and going.  Write down license numbers, number of occupants, descriptions, time spent at the house.  If you can document that 20 cars a day are coming to this house and spending only 5 minutes, the PD should be able to do something about it.
 
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 10:24:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/9/2005 10:25:22 PM EDT by Az_Redneck]

Originally Posted By AR15fan:
Call the local narcotics unit and offer to do a controlled buy for them.



Wish I could...They already think I'm a cop even though we have never spoken. When my son lived here he was talking with some of the local wanna-be G's and told them I was a fed... That's all he said. Well, I was a fed..I used to be a Revenue Specialist for HUD

They don't need to know any different unless they ask and they have never asked...
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 10:27:36 PM EDT
What part of AZ is this in? What city?
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 10:28:03 PM EDT
call up some local special forces guys on leave.  I hear they like to bust crack houses for fun
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 10:29:12 PM EDT

Originally Posted By TheSelecter:
call up some local special forces guys on leave.  I hear they like to bust crack houses for fun



Link Posted: 1/9/2005 10:30:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/9/2005 10:31:57 PM EDT by Az_Redneck]

Originally Posted By DrFrige:
What part of AZ is this in? What city?



I live rural in County area but my address is in Casa Grande which is between Phoenix and Tucson
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 10:34:31 PM EDT

Originally Posted By TheSelecter:
call up some local special forces guys on leave.  I hear they like to bust crack houses for fun



What's scary is that happened a couple years ago. Some SEALs on leave put some crips in the hospital for a couple months.

Of course, the crips started it by mistaking the SEALs for skinheads, but you'll notice who stuck around to see how high they could count before they ran out of bones to break.
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 10:37:08 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Az_Redneck:

Originally Posted By DrFrige:
What part of AZ is this in? What city?



I live rural in County area but my address is in Casa Grande which is between Phoenix and Tucson



Scum show up EVERYWHERE. I cant stand it when you think you move in a great neighborhood then a meth lab shows up here and a drug dealer there.

I wanted to look into buying in Julien in San Diego county and a couple of people told me that because it is so rural that there are quite a few meth labs out there. One of them that told me was a LEO. oh and Lake Arrowhead was another place to watch out for. As beautiful as it is, there were losts of weird things there as well.
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 10:39:50 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DrFrige:

Originally Posted By Az_Redneck:

Originally Posted By DrFrige:
What part of AZ is this in? What city?



I live rural in County area but my address is in Casa Grande which is between Phoenix and Tucson



Scum show up EVERYWHERE. I cant stand it when you think you move in a great neighborhood then a meth lab shows up here and a drug dealer there.

I wanted to look into buying in Julien in San Diego county and a couple of people told me that because it is so rural that there are quite a few meth labs out there. One of them that told me was a LEO. oh and Lake Arrowhead was another place to watch out for. As beautiful as it is, there were losts of weird things there as well.



I used to go to Julien every year with my ex-wife for the Apple Festival...I even applied at the Fallbrook Fire Department. They weren't hiring ...
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 10:40:06 PM EDT
We have two in our neighborhood. We monitor them very carefully and if they so much as fart in the wrong direction it's 911. So far they are still operating but the cops know the location by memory now.

So if you see even the slightest thing suspicious, call 911 until the cops get tired and do something.

Be careful with video-taping, check your local laws first.

Whatever you do, don't do anything stupid, let them make the mistakes.

Link Posted: 1/9/2005 10:42:06 PM EDT
I know someone who bought a house a few years back, they should have known better since it was 10 mins from the rockhole.  In about 3 years the area moved right around them, they mobed are trying to sell house at a loss and not getting any luck yet.
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 10:43:13 PM EDT
What is the guy dealing?

See, meth labs have this tendancy to be a fire hazard, and often burn down.  Depending on the proximity of other houses though, it could get messy, as explosions are possible.  They use many harmful, flammable chemicals, like brake fluid, which serve as an accelarant.

On the other hand, rival dealers tend to come through all the time and shoot up or, in a less risky approach, apply gasoline to and burn other dealers' homes.

Given that it's government housing, it's not a matter of rebuilding for that fellow.  It's a matter of relocating that fellow and rebuilding the house for a new family of shitbags, but shitbags who might not be of the drug dealing variety.

These sorts of things happen often.  Given that you don't want to expose your neighborhood to drug related violence or the chemical hazard of a meth lab, the situation should be dealt with properly by those best-equipped to deal with the matter.  The police are often relieved when a drug dealer in their town is taken off the street; it is their job to accomplish just that.
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 10:44:54 PM EDT
Drug dealers suck. I'm not sure I have any answers to remedy the problem, but if there is an answer, it's probably in the form of a total community effort. Don't try to do it all by yourself. But if you can get others interesting in forming a group to deal with it, you might have some success.
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 10:47:31 PM EDT

Originally Posted By The_Neutral_Observer:
What is the guy dealing?

See, meth labs have this tendancy to be a fire hazard, and often burn down.  Depending on the proximity of other houses though, it could get messy, as explosions are possible.  They use many harmful, flammable chemicals, like brake fluid, which serve as an accelarant.

On the other hand, rival dealers tend to come through all the time and shoot up or, in a less risky approach, apply gasoline to and burn other dealers' homes.

Given that it's government housing, it's not a matter of rebuilding for that fellow.  It's a matter of relocating that fellow and rebuilding the house for a new family of shitbags, but shitbags who might not be of the drug dealing variety.

These sorts of things happen often.  Given that you don't want to expose your neighborhood to drug related violence or the chemical hazard of a meth lab, the situation should be dealt with properly by those best-equipped to deal with the matter.  The police are often relieved when a drug dealer in their town is taken off the street; it is their job to accomplish just that.



Theres a big difference between a drug dealer and a drug lab.
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 10:49:14 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Specop_007:

Originally Posted By The_Neutral_Observer:
What is the guy dealing?

See, meth labs have this tendancy to be a fire hazard, and often burn down.  Depending on the proximity of other houses though, it could get messy, as explosions are possible.  They use many harmful, flammable chemicals, like brake fluid, which serve as an accelarant.

On the other hand, rival dealers tend to come through all the time and shoot up or, in a less risky approach, apply gasoline to and burn other dealers' homes.

Given that it's government housing, it's not a matter of rebuilding for that fellow.  It's a matter of relocating that fellow and rebuilding the house for a new family of shitbags, but shitbags who might not be of the drug dealing variety.

These sorts of things happen often.  Given that you don't want to expose your neighborhood to drug related violence or the chemical hazard of a meth lab, the situation should be dealt with properly by those best-equipped to deal with the matter.  The police are often relieved when a drug dealer in their town is taken off the street; it is their job to accomplish just that.



Theres a big difference between a drug dealer and a drug lab.



No shit.  The distinction isn't always clear in the world of meth, though.

It also doesn't change anything in the preceding post.
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 10:51:28 PM EDT
Just burn the bastard out, tag his driveway with marks from some gang downtown, and go to bed. I guarantee that he'll either be in prison or dead by the end of the week.
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 10:52:02 PM EDT

Originally Posted By The_Neutral_Observer:
What is the guy dealing?

See, meth labs have this tendancy to be a fire hazard, and often burn down.  Depending on the proximity of other houses though, it could get messy, as explosions are possible.  They use many harmful, flammable chemicals, like brake fluid, which serve as an accelarant.

On the other hand, rival dealers tend to come through all the time and shoot up or, in a less risky approach, apply gasoline to and burn other dealers' homes.

Given that it's government housing, it's not a matter of rebuilding for that fellow.  It's a matter of relocating that fellow and rebuilding the house for a new family of shitbags, but shitbags who might not be of the drug dealing variety.

These sorts of things happen often.  Given that you don't want to expose your neighborhood to drug related violence or the chemical hazard of a meth lab, the situation should be dealt with properly by those best-equipped to deal with the matter.  The police are often relieved when a drug dealer in their town is taken off the street; it is their job to accomplish just that.



Link Posted: 1/9/2005 10:52:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/9/2005 10:52:26 PM EDT by Specop_007]

Originally Posted By The_Neutral_Observer:

Originally Posted By Specop_007:

Originally Posted By The_Neutral_Observer:
What is the guy dealing?

See, meth labs have this tendancy to be a fire hazard, and often burn down.  Depending on the proximity of other houses though, it could get messy, as explosions are possible.  They use many harmful, flammable chemicals, like brake fluid, which serve as an accelarant.

On the other hand, rival dealers tend to come through all the time and shoot up or, in a less risky approach, apply gasoline to and burn other dealers' homes.

Given that it's government housing, it's not a matter of rebuilding for that fellow.  It's a matter of relocating that fellow and rebuilding the house for a new family of shitbags, but shitbags who might not be of the drug dealing variety.

These sorts of things happen often.  Given that you don't want to expose your neighborhood to drug related violence or the chemical hazard of a meth lab, the situation should be dealt with properly by those best-equipped to deal with the matter.  The police are often relieved when a drug dealer in their town is taken off the street; it is their job to accomplish just that.



Theres a big difference between a drug dealer and a drug lab.



No shit.  The distinction isn't always clear in the world of meth, though.

It also doesn't change anything in the preceding post.



I was referring to the blue part. You can fire all the tracers and flares you want in a drug dealers house, it wont be any more flammable then the next guys house. But fire those into a lab, whole different story.
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 10:52:46 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 10:53:34 PM EDT
So do you have any idea what he is seeling, might can tell if you look at the crowd that drops by.
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 10:54:20 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Specop_007:

Originally Posted By The_Neutral_Observer:

Originally Posted By Specop_007:

Originally Posted By The_Neutral_Observer:
What is the guy dealing?

See, meth labs have this tendancy to be a fire hazard, and often burn down.  Depending on the proximity of other houses though, it could get messy, as explosions are possible.  They use many harmful, flammable chemicals, like brake fluid, which serve as an accelarant.

On the other hand, rival dealers tend to come through all the time and shoot up or, in a less risky approach, apply gasoline to and burn other dealers' homes.

Given that it's government housing, it's not a matter of rebuilding for that fellow.  It's a matter of relocating that fellow and rebuilding the house for a new family of shitbags, but shitbags who might not be of the drug dealing variety.

These sorts of things happen often.  Given that you don't want to expose your neighborhood to drug related violence or the chemical hazard of a meth lab, the situation should be dealt with properly by those best-equipped to deal with the matter.  The police are often relieved when a drug dealer in their town is taken off the street; it is their job to accomplish just that.



Theres a big difference between a drug dealer and a drug lab.



No shit.  The distinction isn't always clear in the world of meth, though.

It also doesn't change anything in the preceding post.



I was referring to the blue part. You can fire all the tracers and flares you want in a drug dealers house, it wont be any more flammable then the next guys house. But fire those into a lab, whole different story.



The Neutral Observer never mentioned a word about firing flares into the guy's house.

The Neutral Observer was merely pointing out some of the possible dangers that drug dealing exposes the dealer and the neighborhood to.
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 10:56:25 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Taxman:
So do you have any idea what he is seeling, might can tell if you look at the crowd that drops by.



I heard weed but one of the wanna-be G's goes down there and he's into rock in a BIG way....I also heard he had a briefcase full of guns selling them to a fellow at 4am (observed by another neighbor going to work)
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 11:00:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/9/2005 11:02:35 PM EDT by Combatvet]
I am for hire...for the right amount. I'm like the orkin man, only thing I hate worse than bugs are drug dealers. I have a small amount of experience from my days in Tacoma, Washington. (Hilltop).
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