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Posted: 9/18/2005 11:36:53 AM EDT
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mug em! |
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Posted: 9/18/2005 11:39:34 AM EDT
[#2]
I take them shooting.
Don't knock it till you've tried it, I tell them. Not many take me up on the offer, but I'm batting 100% with those that have. Sheep |
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Posted: 9/18/2005 12:04:50 PM EDT
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By example.
Liberals tend to have few acquaintances who own guns, let alone use guns recreationally. To these folks, only kooks and criminals own guns. By being neither a kook nor a criminal, you force them to adjust their prejudices to fit the facts. |
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Posted: 9/18/2005 12:05:58 PM EDT
[#4]
why would you?
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Posted: 9/18/2005 12:10:36 PM EDT
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By grinding them in the crucible of reality. A natural disaster works wonders. Someone here called it: <paraphrased to fit this context> "A high rate of Conservatives being born in the wild."
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Posted: 9/18/2005 12:14:06 PM EDT
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I spoke with a LEO from Louisiana who is in and out of New Orleans, bringing in medical personell.
He is constantly asked by these people, ones who would never touch a gun before, never consider owning one, "What kind of gun should I get? Where do I get one? You mean we civilians can own an AR-15 like yours?" Amazing. 
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Posted: 9/18/2005 12:17:34 PM EDT
[#7]
Beat them profusly 'round about the neck and ears
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Posted: 9/18/2005 12:20:19 PM EDT
[#8]
I use less-lethal shotgun ammo...........but heh.........that's "just me"
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Posted: 9/18/2005 12:27:17 PM EDT
[#9]
Taser.
Repeat as necessary. Or try this
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Posted: 9/18/2005 12:40:03 PM EDT
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Impossible to deprogram a cult like that.
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Posted: 9/18/2005 12:43:58 PM EDT
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+1 One of my best friends would still make gay love to Michael Moore (He's straight), but he's gained a healthy dose of hopolophilia. Everyone whom I've taken shooting has loved it, regardless of political affiliation. |
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Posted: 9/18/2005 12:57:09 PM EDT
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Many years ago, I had a co-worker who, every day argued with me at lunch time and breaks, about firearm ownership, and that No One needed a gun. After several weeks of getting nowhere with rebuttals from my NRA info and other sources, I had to resort to" SLEDGE HAMMER "TACTICS. "Jerry", what would you do if you woke up at 3am and an Intruder was getting ready to run about a yard of AIDS DRIPPING LOW LIFE DICK" up your wifes ass....?? Well, me, I keep a S&W 357 and a 12 Ga. by my bed. I can protect my wife and family. How bout you..? Well, 2 weeks later I'm in the mens room tak'n a leak. Jerry pulls up in the next stall. He never looked up, just said, "WHAT TO YOU THINK ABOUT A S&W .38....???
By God,, I Rest My Case.... Permission is granted to run this on the front page of your local newspaper. |
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Posted: 9/18/2005 1:01:11 PM EDT
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How about a more specific question like 'convert an anti-gunner to an agnostic?' There are liberal gun owners (like me) just like there are pro-choice Republicans. |
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Posted: 9/18/2005 1:08:07 PM EDT
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Two words: "Frontal Lobotomy". It's the only sure way....
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Posted: 9/18/2005 1:17:26 PM EDT
[#15]
Just reason with them:
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Posted: 9/18/2005 1:33:43 PM EDT
[#16]
+1 on taking them shooting. Works every time.
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Posted: 9/18/2005 1:43:44 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/18/2005 2:06:57 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/18/2005 2:12:59 PM EDT
[#19]
You can't get most liberals to think. They can only "feel". Waste of time.
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Posted: 9/18/2005 2:22:50 PM EDT
[#20]
Through superior firepower....
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Posted: 9/18/2005 4:40:04 PM EDT
[#21]
Sorry, I meant how do I convert them to a "progun status". A friend of mine says he doesn't mind "hunting rifles" but thinks "sniper rifles" and "assault rifles" should be banned. I tried explaining to him that sniper rifles are the same as hunting rifles and that assault rifles are whimpier than hunting rifles but he didn't believe me. He also thinks that the streets are flooded with AK47s. I haven't lost all hope though, so I was wondering what kind of pointers you guys have.
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Posted: 9/18/2005 4:47:59 PM EDT
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Attack them with kindness. Penetrate there psyche with logic, explain why we need guns, its not about wanting them. Convince them that they need a gun, and they are fun and its their duty.
Apply pressure to their fears, explain scenerios: preventing rape...etc. And explain that it may not be just their life that they save but it may be someone elses life. Also explain to them actually how slow the police respond to a phone call. Explain to them that the police are not always there and its up to YOU to protect yourself. |
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Posted: 9/18/2005 4:51:16 PM EDT
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It's a long slow process, I'm still working on my boss and a few good customers. I'm getting somewhere with him though because he lets me bring my weapons in for cleaning and maintenance, but four out of five of his employees are gun owners so the majrity rules.
After three years -and many serious conversations- I finally convinced him to come to the range with his son. We haven't gone yet but he really wants to go now. I will complete my mission when he finally buys a weapon of his own. |
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Posted: 9/18/2005 6:49:42 PM EDT
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It is posible to get them to admit that gun control is a falacy and you may even get them to enjoy shooting. BUT you will never be able to tear them away from the emoional wishful thinking and they will always vote for socialists. |
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Posted: 9/20/2005 3:23:39 PM EDT
[#25]
Great advise so far.
 Keep'em comming!
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Posted: 9/20/2005 3:29:18 PM EDT
[#26]
Is it really worth the trouble? I prefer my life ulcer free. I invite people I may end up liking to go out shooting. If they're anti-gunners and refuse, well it's their loss. I do the same for sharing my relationship with the Lord. Differance is I'll pray for em' even if they cuss me out about their salvation. |
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Posted: 9/20/2005 3:46:18 PM EDT
[#27]
Force them at gunpoint to like guns.
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Posted: 9/20/2005 3:51:45 PM EDT
[#28]
The old solutions are usually the best. So kill their men, marry their women, and raise children who like guns. Problem solved.
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Posted: 9/20/2005 4:01:42 PM EDT
[#29]
"I claim the right of prima-nochta."
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Posted: 9/20/2005 4:04:06 PM EDT
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Put a large sign in their yard which reads "GUNFREE ZONE, if you come to rob me, I will call the Police"
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Posted: 9/20/2005 4:09:19 PM EDT
[#31]
DARN YOU! I was going to say that! |
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Posted: 9/20/2005 4:17:53 PM EDT
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TAKE THEM SHOOTING!! I'm enrolled in a pistol course through my college and three of the guys are very liberal. When we were introducing each other, they all said they had a natural disposition against guns, but wanted to shoot one just to get a taste of the opposite side of the argument. We got to shoot a few rounds that first day against 50ft. targets. I could not help but notice that all three of them were trying to hold back enormous grins as they compared their results. |
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Posted: 9/20/2005 4:28:39 PM EDT
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You can't. They will take anything you say as a lie. My sister, shamefully, is a hardcore liberal. Any sense I try to make is brushed off as a lie. There is always a conspiracy behind any factual evidence presented before her. All I can do is keep on keepin' on.
 ETA: I hope that nothing drastic enough ever happens to her that would change her mind, because it may be too late. |
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Posted: 9/20/2005 4:50:01 PM EDT
[#34]
Or break into their house and hold them at gunpoint while you rape their wife. They won't care as much about their wife being violate as the security of their home, but it'll make the wife progun too. |
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Posted: 9/20/2005 6:01:07 PM EDT
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"IF" (the big if) you can get them to the range.
Nice day-not to hot or cold. Make it fun . If it's a women make sure they have a real nice clean bathroom available. Good ear and eye protection,electronic muffs over foam plugs works well . Reactive easy to hit targets,clay pigeons,water jugs,vegtables ect . AR15 with Ceiner or 10/22---30rd mags, have plenty of mags preloaded leave the heavy recoiling stuff at home for the first couple of times leave when they start to lose interest (or somewhat before ) Make it fun,make it fun,make it fun ! |
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Posted: 9/20/2005 6:14:52 PM EDT
[#36]
+1 I don't think I've ever seen anyone NOT smile after burning through a 30 rd mag. |
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Posted: 9/20/2005 6:15:39 PM EDT
[#37]
Send them to N.O.
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Posted: 9/20/2005 6:25:38 PM EDT
[#38]
If it's a woman, rape her.
If it's a man, rape him. Anyone that's been through that kind of pain, fear and humiliation is NOT going to let it happen twice, and will see the light. The first time I heard that my jaw dropped until I gave it a little thought. |
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Posted: 9/20/2005 9:15:10 PM EDT
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I just tell the anti's that the main reason I own guns is because I enjoy them. I also tell them that another reason I own guns is the same reason I have a spare tire, jumpers and tools in my truck and insurance. I hope that I'll never need them, but if I do, I'm happy as hell that I had the tools needed for the job.
Ask them what their response will be to a perv raping and hurting their kids? Dial 911? How many more minutes of trauma will your child go through while waiting for the police to save the day, if you can even contact them. A firearm is just another tool that you hope will never be needed but may make a big difference on your families future. |
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Posted: 9/21/2005 3:07:25 AM EDT
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LOL, they should all do that. |
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Posted: 9/22/2005 7:39:36 AM EDT
[#41]
Hey, I'm STILL on somebody's shit list after I gave a do-good liberal a sign that said 'Gun Free Home'. Inside of a few days, they got broken into. They TRIED to blame me. |
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Posted: 9/22/2005 11:12:05 AM EDT
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i am currently in the process with a work buddy of mine. she's extremely bright, but has heard the same party line all her life. (mom was an archetypal hippie activist) in her words, she's a "good little democrat", but is willing to listen. now that she's dating my brother, we're both working on her here's what i'm doing:
1. whittle in a friendly manner. little comments about shooting help demystify guns. range stories are great for this. 2. challenge ideas. with women, self-defense is probably the most significant issue. "rapist safety measures" is a great catchphrase to describe gun control, and one that usually gets a reaction. i use ideas more than facts, but always have the facts available. the trick is to get them to think on their own. once that happens, the battle's almost won. 3. take them shooting. i've never taken a lib (or anyone else, for that matter) shooting who didn't have a great time. all in all, i keep the issue topical, but never apply pressure. this girl hasn't gotten to the point where we'll invite her to go shooting on a specific day, and now she is the one who brings it up. "so when are you guys going shooting next?" "why?" "oh, just curious."
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Posted: 9/24/2005 5:34:12 PM EDT
[#43]
great ideas so far! I look forward to hearing more.
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Posted: 9/24/2005 5:38:58 PM EDT
[#44]
+1-most people who are afraid to shoot seem to love it once they've tried it, in my experience anyway
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Posted: 9/24/2005 5:39:32 PM EDT
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You can't. No matter how much common sense, reasonable arguing, you aren't going to change the way they feel. I've taken my brother hunting and shooting. He likes my ARs alot, but he won't own one and doesn't see the need. At least he didn't. Him and his liberal wife are beginning to grow up now and seeing things in a different light. About 2 months ago, he told me his wife was asking about a handgun for her protection at night. I'm sure that NOLA has made an even bigger affect on him. Very few things can change a liberal's mindset like an extreme personal experience, or time and maturity.
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Posted: 9/24/2005 6:15:48 PM EDT
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Most libbies are just scared shiitless of a "death weapon", they see the gun as only for murdering people and that is scaaaaaaarrryy!! mommie! The best thing to do is compare it to something deadly they already own but think nothing of it. For example if they say "well i'd be afraid i'd get angry and just shoot someone" or "what if a kid got hold of it?" or "what if it went off accidently?" So answer, Well when you get into a bad arguement with someone is your first thought to run into the kitchen and grab a knife?? so why would a gun be different?" as for kids well, what if a four year old managed to grab a kitchen knife? at least a gun can be unloaded or locked. As for accidents, can't you die or kill someone else with a car? it would be called an accident! So to aviod one you learn safety rules.
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Posted: 9/24/2005 6:22:51 PM EDT
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It doesn't matter if they are progun or not. I know several that are pro-gun. The problem is that killing babies is more important to them than life itself. Sorry, I just cannot explain their logic.
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Posted: 9/24/2005 10:24:10 PM EDT
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National Take-A-Liberal-Shooting Day.
Starts with a pledge to be open minded like the cliche about parachutes goes. Then take em shooting. Teach them the four firearms rules. Shoot big black scary guns and ask them why black guns are so scary. |
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Posted: 9/24/2005 11:00:55 PM EDT
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I would rather they be converted out of their leftist, socialist mindset. It would follow therefrom that they would understand the reasoning behind the Right to Bear Arms.
"The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." GL |
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Posted: 9/25/2005 3:04:34 AM EDT
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Why do you want to save a Damned Liberal? Adjusting their views on guns won't fix everything else that's wrong with them and their Utopian view of Amerika.
Look, Darwin is very good at what he does-why negate his important work? The few Libtards that are worth salvaging will change their tune once they've experienced powerless victimhood for the first time. The rest? Who gives a rat's ass! Tired and Cranky, Dave |
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