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Posted: 4/27/2014 1:26:36 PM EDT
He was shooting his S&W Bodyguard .38 when this happened:

(I know, I need to buy a camera.)




I'd say the ammo is a bit iffy. I think be bought it at a gun show or something. It was a S&B box, and the brass was S&B, but the box looked a bit old, and it had "10/02" written on it. It could be factory ammo that's been stored for a long time, or it could even be some sketchy bastard's reloads.

Should we be surprised the gun is still in one piece?
Link Posted: 4/27/2014 1:32:13 PM EDT
Need a pic of the primer
Link Posted: 4/27/2014 1:34:01 PM EDT
Damn. Looks like it held together just enough to keep from having parts instead of a gun. Did the round make it out or stick in the barrel?
Link Posted: 4/27/2014 1:34:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/27/2014 1:55:03 PM EDT by NavyIS2]
I''ve had some issued 9mm from wcc I was shooting through our Sig mk11s to qual that came out split like that. Brittle brass.
Link Posted: 4/27/2014 1:34:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/27/2014 1:37:35 PM EDT by JohnAC]
Nah, brittle (or work hardened) brass. Head is fine.
Link Posted: 4/27/2014 1:34:31 PM EDT
Done that to lots of 10mm

No worries

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Link Posted: 4/27/2014 1:35:41 PM EDT
Link Posted: 4/27/2014 1:36:17 PM EDT
Probably not close to a kaboom unless you noticed the rounds were hotter than normal.

It likely is a normal split caused from old brass loaded a few times. I have a collection of 9mm, 45 acp, 40 s&w, 38 Sp, 357 mag and 44 mag cases that have splits like that. It dosen't hurt the chamber.
Link Posted: 4/27/2014 1:38:42 PM EDT
split case, toss it and move on
Link Posted: 4/27/2014 1:39:04 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BerlinVet:
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Not sure how this pic came out this good.

Link Posted: 4/27/2014 1:39:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/27/2014 1:41:02 PM EDT by freeride21a]
Totally fine and you were in no danger, quite normal with brass that has been reloaded a lot(range ammo).. brass is just worn out. Primer looks fine.
Link Posted: 4/27/2014 1:40:55 PM EDT
My old man shoots his .38 cases in his .357 until they do that, that's when he decides they can go into the scrap bucket.
Link Posted: 4/27/2014 1:40:59 PM EDT
Tell your friend NEVER to buy reloads from a gunshow. While the split case is not a problem in itself, 38spl and similar older cartridges have a lot of room for the sloppy reloader to double charge which IS dangerous.
Link Posted: 4/27/2014 1:42:06 PM EDT
it happens. Not a huge deal
Link Posted: 4/27/2014 1:42:17 PM EDT
The Chamber contains the pressure not the brass. No worries.
Link Posted: 4/27/2014 1:43:28 PM EDT
Had this happen shooting some really old and ugly .38 blazer aluminum case ammo. Wasn`t over charge, just came apart.
Link Posted: 4/27/2014 1:43:58 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By freeride21a:
Totally fine and you were in no danger, quite normal with brass that has been reloaded a lot(range ammo).. brass is just worn out. Primer looks fine.
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This.
Link Posted: 4/27/2014 1:44:09 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By jimhoff:
it happens. Not a huge deal
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Link Posted: 4/27/2014 1:49:13 PM EDT
So we are talking about a bodyguard .38 special and not a Bodyguard 380 right?
Link Posted: 4/27/2014 1:53:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By va_gunz:
So we are talking about a bodyguard .38 special and not a Bodyguard 380 right?
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Yes.



http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product4_750001_750051_766382_-1_757893_757767_757751_ProductDisplayErrorView_Y
Link Posted: 4/27/2014 1:53:37 PM EDT
Revolver cylinder performed as designed.

Link Posted: 4/27/2014 2:11:01 PM EDT
I had Factory Winchester 44mag brass do that in my Rossi. I just threw the brass
away. No worries.
Link Posted: 4/27/2014 2:16:12 PM EDT
Does/did the ammo have a crimp where the crimp mark is?
Link Posted: 4/27/2014 2:20:23 PM EDT
like the others said, probably just reloaded brass that cracked, the fact that the BG38 is a POS with large tolerances doesn't help.
Link Posted: 4/27/2014 2:22:13 PM EDT
Split case, does not have to be a reload, it happens and is not a big deal.
Link Posted: 4/27/2014 2:34:50 PM EDT
My experience with S&B cases is that they tend to be more brittle than most U.S. made cases. The cases will split on fewer reloadings than say Winchester, or Remington brass.

The primer looks fine; it was not overpressure.
Link Posted: 4/27/2014 2:52:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bassgasm:


Not sure how this pic came out this good.

http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k620/Bassgasm1/Gun%20Stuff/38splitcaseprimer_zpsc75e7c83.jpg
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Originally Posted By Bassgasm:
Originally Posted By BerlinVet:
Need a pic of the primer


Not sure how this pic came out this good.

http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k620/Bassgasm1/Gun%20Stuff/38splitcaseprimer_zpsc75e7c83.jpg


primer not flat (over pressure).

bad brass.
Link Posted: 4/27/2014 2:54:46 PM EDT
I'd pull the rest of the bullets.
Link Posted: 4/27/2014 2:57:46 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By freeride21a:
Totally fine and you were in no danger, quite normal with brass that has been reloaded a lot(range ammo).. brass is just worn out. Primer looks fine.
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This
Link Posted: 4/27/2014 3:01:03 PM EDT
Old used brass.
Link Posted: 4/27/2014 3:04:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By osprey21:
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Nah. It was used just enough until it was worn out.
Link Posted: 4/27/2014 3:21:13 PM EDT
While never quite that bad, I've culled those out of my range brass pickups before. They ring like a tuning fork when they go through the brass sorter.
Link Posted: 4/27/2014 3:27:24 PM EDT
Don't try to reload it......well you never know
Link Posted: 4/27/2014 3:38:41 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JohnAC:
Nah, brittle (or work hardened) brass. Head is fine.
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Yep. No big deal.

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Link Posted: 4/27/2014 3:39:34 PM EDT
just a split case, sort of common for 38s and 357's, no big deal. My .223 brass usually dies by neck splits.

If the case head blows out then you have issues!
Link Posted: 4/27/2014 3:45:21 PM EDT
Link Posted: 4/27/2014 3:48:52 PM EDT
I just had some Remington umc factory ammo do this in my sw air weight freaked me out ,but I guess it happens
Link Posted: 4/27/2014 3:50:57 PM EDT
+1 on the no worries sentiment.

Link Posted: 4/27/2014 3:51:26 PM EDT
The primer looks fine.
While a split case can be a concern, in this instance it's not a big deal.

Glad that all are OK...
Link Posted: 4/27/2014 4:22:48 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By osprey21:
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Link Posted: 4/27/2014 4:27:47 PM EDT


Was this one reloaded too many times? This is a first firing of Federal 147 gr 9mm. Cases Split even on new brass sometimes. It happens not a big deal.
Link Posted: 4/27/2014 4:30:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MTNmyMag:
Split case, does not have to be a reload, it happens and is not a big deal.
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Have had that happen with new Starline .357 brass. Toss it and move on.
Link Posted: 4/27/2014 6:11:46 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By jimhoff:
it happens. Not a huge deal
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Yep. Much more support in a revolver cylinder than say some semi auto pistol barrel.

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