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Posted: 11/29/2014 6:25:59 PM EDT
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They will freeze any bank accounts you might have and take the money.
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Posted: 11/29/2014 6:27:11 PM EDT
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If you have no income, why did the person owe taxes?
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Posted: 11/29/2014 6:27:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They will freeze any bank accounts you might have and take the money. Plus wage garnishment and/or social security offset. If there is a legitimate inability to pay, the IRS can put someone in "currently uncollectable" status, but you have to ask for it.
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Posted: 11/29/2014 6:27:56 PM EDT
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They will freeze any bank accounts you might have and take the money. But if there aren't any?? I guess that was what I was getting at, there isn't anything to take or hold over them? What happens then? |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 6:28:02 PM EDT
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When I was a kid (around 85 or 86) I remember the IRS arrested my neighbors son and auctioned off everything he had.
He was tied in with some group that believed taxes were unconstitutional and he told the IRS He was not going to pay. He was working odd jobs and I think they tacked on tax fraud and a few other charges. |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 6:28:22 PM EDT
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Hypothetically speaking if someone owed less then $15k in taxes and didn't have income or property to lien against what is the worst that could happen? Was reading an article about someone who hadn't paid in like 10 years but filed every year. Apparently he just ignored the letters as he didnt have anything they could take. I have heard both extremes and was curious if anyone else has a first hand knowledge and not just made up fear of the IRS.... Hypothetically he may now owe millions the way they tack on fees and late charges and penalties. A visit to Club Fed will be in his future most likely. I am not sure about this but I believe it becomes a felony charge of evading also. |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 6:29:37 PM EDT
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If you have no income, why did the person owe taxes? Apparently from previous years there was income but subsequent years there wasn't any.... |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 6:30:50 PM EDT
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If you do anything using your social security number the IRS will seize any assets that you have.
Wages, Unemployment, inheritance, lottery winnings, disability, Social Security, etc. Basically you'll have to work cash jobs all your life and let your girlfriend do all the renting and utilities in her name. If your married, they'll go after your wifes assets. You can't buy a house or a car or have credit because you'll have a "hold" put on your Soc Sec number. |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 6:31:17 PM EDT
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But if there aren't any?? I guess that was what I was getting at, there isn't anything to take or hold over them? What happens then? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They will freeze any bank accounts you might have and take the money. But if there aren't any?? I guess that was what I was getting at, there isn't anything to take or hold over them? What happens then? They will take your social security when you turn 65. |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 6:32:07 PM EDT
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Ask Al Capone.
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Posted: 11/29/2014 6:33:08 PM EDT
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If you do anything using your social security number the IRS will seize any assets that you have. Wages, Unemployment, inheritance, lottery winnings, disability, Social Security, etc. Basically you'll have to work cash jobs all your life and let your girlfriend do all the renting and utilities in her name. If your married, they'll go after your wifes assets. But if someone were to live that way... Like in a motor home or something... What is the final outcome? |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 6:33:17 PM EDT
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I went through this and we worked it out. I had a deference until I was on my feet and now pay them $800. extra a month for 3 years. We negotiated it and I can now afford it. If you begin it the IRS is actually easy to deal with. The stupid thing to do is go to a tax attorney, you will pay them a huge fee AND pay the IRS.
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Posted: 11/29/2014 6:33:58 PM EDT
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They will take your social security when you turn 65. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They will freeze any bank accounts you might have and take the money. But if there aren't any?? I guess that was what I was getting at, there isn't anything to take or hold over them? What happens then? They will take your social security when you turn 65. That's assuming you apply for it? What happens if you choose not to? |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 6:34:15 PM EDT
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But if there aren't any?? I guess that was what I was getting at, there isn't anything to take or hold over them? What happens then? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They will freeze any bank accounts you might have and take the money. But if there aren't any?? I guess that was what I was getting at, there isn't anything to take or hold over them? What happens then? Nothing Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 6:53:21 PM EDT
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The slavering Obama agents will destroy your life with glee.....
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Posted: 11/29/2014 7:32:20 PM EDT
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Wesley snipes bad, that's how bad. jail
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Posted: 11/29/2014 7:33:19 PM EDT
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If you're poor and hardworking? Pound me in the ass jail.
If you're a rich community leader who hangs out with Obama? Nothing? |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 7:34:49 PM EDT
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Right, use the Sharpton defense!
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Posted: 11/29/2014 7:39:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wesley snipes bad, that's how bad. jail OP is talking about under 15k Nothing would ever be done I suspect.
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Posted: 11/29/2014 7:46:31 PM EDT
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Owing $2.4 Billion hasn't slowed Al Sharpton down and Warren Buffet seems to be living pretty well owing $1 Billion
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Posted: 11/29/2014 7:49:19 PM EDT
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But if someone were to live that way... Like in a motor home or something... What is the final outcome? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you do anything using your social security number the IRS will seize any assets that you have. Wages, Unemployment, inheritance, lottery winnings, disability, Social Security, etc. Basically you'll have to work cash jobs all your life and let your girlfriend do all the renting and utilities in her name. If your married, they'll go after your wifes assets. But if someone were to live that way... Like in a motor home or something... What is the final outcome? The final outcome is when your health goes to crap wont be eligible for disability benefits since you have not paid into the system. You earn points for each year of work and can only get so many a year and need a certain amount in the last ten years of work to be eligible. Or something like that |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 7:52:36 PM EDT
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If you do anything using your social security number the IRS will seize any assets that you have. Wages, Unemployment, inheritance, lottery winnings, disability, Social Security, etc. Basically you'll have to work cash jobs all your life and let your girlfriend do all the renting and utilities in her name. If your married, they'll go after your wifes assets. You can't buy a house or a car or have credit because you'll have a "hold" put on your Soc Sec number. But they are just handing out ssns to the illegals now. You can get multiple ssns if you want |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 7:54:29 PM EDT
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As long as you file and claim you owe it I believe the worst they can do is seize assets and garnish wages. Not filing or claiming the income is pound me in the ass prsion.
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Posted: 11/29/2014 8:05:18 PM EDT
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The final outcome is when your health goes to crap wont be eligible for disability benefits since you have not paid into the system. You earn points for each year of work and can only get so many a year and need a certain amount in the last ten years of work to be eligible. Or something like that Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you do anything using your social security number the IRS will seize any assets that you have. Wages, Unemployment, inheritance, lottery winnings, disability, Social Security, etc. Basically you'll have to work cash jobs all your life and let your girlfriend do all the renting and utilities in her name. If your married, they'll go after your wifes assets. But if someone were to live that way... Like in a motor home or something... What is the final outcome? The final outcome is when your health goes to crap wont be eligible for disability benefits since you have not paid into the system. You earn points for each year of work and can only get so many a year and need a certain amount in the last ten years of work to be eligible. Or something like that No offense but have you looked around lately .... There is about 30% of our country that haven't done shit... And yet they all get free everything... |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 8:06:14 PM EDT
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But if someone were to live that way... Like in a motor home or something... What is the final outcome? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you do anything using your social security number the IRS will seize any assets that you have. Wages, Unemployment, inheritance, lottery winnings, disability, Social Security, etc. Basically you'll have to work cash jobs all your life and let your girlfriend do all the renting and utilities in her name. If your married, they'll go after your wifes assets. But if someone were to live that way... Like in a motor home or something... What is the final outcome? Dying broke and alone in a motor home. |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 8:17:34 PM EDT
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IRS won't do shit if your an illegal. Just create a new identity and transfer your assets.  |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 8:21:21 PM EDT
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There are two possible outcomes. One is for democrats, the other is for republicans. One is very bad.
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Posted: 11/29/2014 8:21:54 PM EDT
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Ask Al Capone. Yup and Gotti, pay your taxes, unless you are a democrat then you can have an oopsie or 2. |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 8:25:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: But if someone were to live that way... Like in a motor home or something... What is the final outcome? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If you do anything using your social security number the IRS will seize any assets that you have. Wages, Unemployment, inheritance, lottery winnings, disability, Social Security, etc. Basically you'll have to work cash jobs all your life and let your girlfriend do all the renting and utilities in her name. If your married, they'll go after your wifes assets. But if someone were to live that way... Like in a motor home or something... What is the final outcome? |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 8:25:57 PM EDT
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Simple descrepancy? They send you a letter at first. AMHIK
 Are you asking what happens if you flat-out refuse to pay? ...Ed & Elaine Brown are going to both die in federal prison for taking that stance. |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 8:28:55 PM EDT
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lube up, because you gunna get fucked.
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Posted: 11/29/2014 8:30:10 PM EDT
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Ask Rangle.
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Posted: 11/29/2014 8:40:10 PM EDT
[#33]
Depends if you are privileged race or not
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Posted: 11/29/2014 8:42:05 PM EDT
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The answer depends if your name is "John Doe" or "Juan Valdez"
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Posted: 11/29/2014 8:44:08 PM EDT
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If you have no income, why did the person owe taxes? Feds will find a way. Don't worry. |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 8:48:56 PM EDT
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Simple descrepancy? They send you a letter at first. AMHIK
Are you asking what happens if you flat-out refuse to pay? ...Ed & Elaine Brown are going to both die in federal prison for taking that stance. A guy from my small town got 8 years for helping them. |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 8:49:22 PM EDT
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Yup and Gotti, pay your taxes, unless you are a democrat then you can have an oopsie or 2. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Ask Al Capone. Yup and Gotti, pay your taxes, unless you are a democrat then you can have an oopsie or 2. pretty sure Gotti and Capone got it for not declaring income or filing a false return. That is way it generally gets criminal. |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 8:52:55 PM EDT
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I have made a few grand this year on the side doing some consulting work and I haven't filed anything quarterly
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Posted: 11/29/2014 9:05:54 PM EDT
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There is a ten-year statute of limitations for unpaid taxes. If you are determined to be currently uncollectable, the IRS will leave you alone. You may need to reapply for currently uncollectable status every year or so. After ten years, the tax debt goes away.
If you are not currently uncollectable, the IRS will accept a payment plan (based on what they determine you can afford). After ten years, the unpaid balance goes away. The biggest mistake people make when it comes to the IRS is ignoring them. If you have a tax bill than cannot be paid, you are far better off contacting the IRS. No one goes to jail for simple non-payment of taxes. They go to jail for filing fraudulent returns or failing to file returns, etc...
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Posted: 11/29/2014 9:09:52 PM EDT
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they will take it from your account , one day you'll see your balance and say WTH, yep they got it , with now word
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Posted: 11/29/2014 9:14:59 PM EDT
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they will take it from your account , one day you'll see your balance and say WTH, yep they got it , with now word
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Posted: 11/29/2014 9:33:22 PM EDT
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They will take your social security when you turn 65. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They will freeze any bank accounts you might have and take the money. But if there aren't any?? I guess that was what I was getting at, there isn't anything to take or hold over them? What happens then? They will take your social security when you turn 65. All of these things might be true. The determining factor being your income bracket. The more money you make and/or try to get out of paying, the more attention you're gonna get. IIRC Willie Nelson owed millions and I don't remember'em throwing him in jail. But, the idiot that won the first Survivor ended up in jail IIRC for tax evasion.......on that million he won..... 
Hard to figure.......... that's our tax system. Pun intended......
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Posted: 11/29/2014 9:40:40 PM EDT
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Many of the biggest offenders work for the IRS.
Sharpton is a huge crook but he is an obungler/Holder rump kisser so he has little to worry about.   
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Posted: 11/29/2014 9:42:41 PM EDT
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But if someone were to live that way... Like in a motor home or something... What is the final outcome? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you do anything using your social security number the IRS will seize any assets that you have. Wages, Unemployment, inheritance, lottery winnings, disability, Social Security, etc. Basically you'll have to work cash jobs all your life and let your girlfriend do all the renting and utilities in her name. If your married, they'll go after your wifes assets. But if someone were to live that way... Like in a motor home or something... What is the final outcome? They would take possessions, personal items, anything of value. |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 9:43:01 PM EDT
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There is a ten-year statute of limitations for unpaid taxes. If you are determined to be currently uncollectable, the IRS will leave you alone. You may need to reapply for currently uncollectable status every year or so. After ten years, the tax debt goes away. If you are not currently uncollectable, the IRS will accept a payment plan (based on what they determine you can afford). After ten years, the unpaid balance goes away. The biggest mistake people make when it comes to the IRS is ignoring them. If you have a tax bill than cannot be paid, you are far better off contacting the IRS. No one goes to jail for simple non-payment of taxes. They go to jail for filing fraudulent returns or failing to file returns, etc... This guy knows how the game is played Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 9:44:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wesley snipes bad, that's how bad. jail |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 9:44:47 PM EDT
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This guy lived down the street from my grandpa. He was an extreme tax evader.
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Posted: 11/29/2014 9:47:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I assume he got in trouble for not filing or fraudulent filing. Not sure if you just file honestly and don't pay they can touch you. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Wesley snipes bad, that's how bad. jail |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 9:50:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can that be construed as legal advice? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Wesley snipes bad, that's how bad. jail |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 9:52:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He actually has money and owed a lot Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Wesley snipes bad, that's how bad. jail OP is talking about under 15k Nothing would ever be done I suspect. Horseshit! Those bastards will hound you for every penny you owe, add on staggeringly high fines and penalties, attach anything you own...and ultimately put your ass in federal prison. Prison usually comes as a penalty for failure to file a return, willful fraud or outright refusal to pay what you owe. Never assume they won't fuck with you for owing them money....because it's exactly how they justify their existence. |
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