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Posted: 7/22/2008 5:12:02 PM EDT

And can I just add a stock and VFG to it or will I be in prison for awhile?

Posted: 7/22/2008 5:13:15 PM EDT

[#1]

By the thing that goes up?

Posted: 7/22/2008 5:13:23 PM EDT

[#2]

Stock = SBR.

VFG = AOW.

Don't add either.

*Without the proper tax stamp, of course.

Posted: 7/22/2008 5:13:34 PM EDT

[#3]

yes if you added a stock it would be a short barrelled rifle and yea you might go to jail

Posted: 7/22/2008 5:13:48 PM EDT

[#4]

Add a stock?!? And a VFG?!?! OMFG, Arfcom is going to explode!!!!!1

Posted: 7/22/2008 5:14:20 PM EDT

[#5]

You hold it like a normal pistol, by the pistol grip.

If you add a stock, you must register the gun as a short-barreled rifle ($200 stamp tax) - this will also allow you to add a VFG. If you want just the VFG and no stock, you must register it as an "Any Other Weapon (AOW)" which is a $5 stamp tax. If you do either of these without registering, you are indeed putting yourself in danger of being sent to prison on an NFA violation if caught.

Posted: 7/22/2008 5:14:22 PM EDT

[#6]

One hand on the pistol grip, another on the handguard, extend it as far away from your body as you can, at eye level.

Kharn

Posted: 7/22/2008 5:15:00 PM EDT

[#7]

Quoted:
yes if you added a stock it would be a short barrelled rifle and yea you might go to jail

Now wouldn't that apply to a Glock handgun also since they sell stocks for it?

Posted: 7/22/2008 5:15:07 PM EDT

[#8]

It's a little weird to hold. I shot one before. Just hold onto the mag well with your weak hand and bring it up to your eyes.

Posted: 7/22/2008 5:15:32 PM EDT

[#9]

Quoted:

Quoted:
yes if you added a stock it would be a short barrelled rifle and yea you might go to jail

Now wouldn't that apply to a Glock handgun also since they sell stocks for it?

Of course it would.

Posted: 7/22/2008 5:15:59 PM EDT

[#10]

Quoted:
One hand on the pistol grip, another on the handguard, extend it as far away from your body as you can, at eye level.

Kharn

but wouldn't people look funny shooting that thing?

Posted: 7/22/2008 5:16:49 PM EDT

[#11]

IIRC The British SAS did develop a a technique for bracing a sling to support the firing of stockless MP5Ks in CQB.

Posted: 7/22/2008 5:17:29 PM EDT

[#12]

We have a whole forum devoted to AR Pistols.

Posted: 7/22/2008 5:17:58 PM EDT

[#13]

Quoted:

Quoted:
yes if you added a stock it would be a short barrelled rifle and yea you might go to jail

Now wouldn't that apply to a Glock handgun also since they sell stocks for it?

Yes

Posted: 7/22/2008 5:18:19 PM EDT

[#14]

Quoted:

but wouldn't people look funny shooting that thing?

Yes. The gun itself also looks funny; what do you expect?

Posted: 7/22/2008 5:19:08 PM EDT

[#15]

Shoot it like you do all assault weapons, form the hip duh.

Posted: 7/22/2008 5:19:23 PM EDT

[#16]

Quoted:
One hand on the pistol grip, another on the handguard, extend it as far away from your body as you can, at eye level.

Kharn

No no no, you got it all wrong. You're REALLY supposed to hold it sideways in one hand, and as you fire it, thrust the gun forward as if that little extra "Push" makes the bullets go faster, and with each shot yell "BLOCKA!!!!" or "TACKA!!!" or "PAP!!!!!"

Posted: 7/22/2008 5:20:25 PM EDT

[#17]

On an AR-15 pistol a single point sling is the way to go.

Hold the pistol grip and handguard in the conventional fashion.

Adjust the sling so that you can push forward firmly and have the sling be fully taut with the pistol receiver in the same position that a rifle would be.

You can get a good cheek weld on the buffer tube with this technique.

Posted: 7/22/2008 5:21:41 PM EDT

[#18]

Quoted:
You hold it like a normal pistol, by the pistol grip.

If you add a stock, you must register the gun as a short-barreled rifle ($200 stamp tax) - this will also allow you to add a VFG. If you want just the VFG and no stock, you must register it as an "Any Other Weapon (AOW)" which is a $5 stamp tax. If you do either of these without registering, you are indeed putting yourself in danger of being sent to prison on an NFA violation if caught.

what if it's registered as a pistol,you can't put a stock on a pistol?

Posted: 7/22/2008 5:21:48 PM EDT

[#19]

Quoted:

Quoted:
One hand on the pistol grip, another on the handguard, extend it as far away from your body as you can, at eye level.

Kharn

No no no, you got it all wrong. You're REALLY supposed to hold it sideways in one hand, and as you fire it, thrust the gun forward as if that little extra "Push" makes the bullets go faster, and with each shot yell "BLOCKA!!!!" or "TACKA!!!" or "PAP!!!!!"

Your right. I was taking the unprofessional-new-to-shooting technique. I think it also increases accuracy if you bend your arm over your head while firing.

Posted: 7/22/2008 5:22:27 PM EDT

[#20]

Quoted:

Quoted:
One hand on the pistol grip, another on the handguard, extend it as far away from your body as you can, at eye level.

Kharn

No no no, you got it all wrong. You're REALLY supposed to hold it sideways in one hand, and as you fire it, thrust the gun forward as if that little extra "Push" makes the bullets go faster, and with each shot yell "BLOCKA!!!!" or "TACKA!!!" or "PAP!!!!!"

lmao

Posted: 7/22/2008 5:23:16 PM EDT

[#21]

Quoted:
You hold it like a normal pistol, by the pistol grip.

If you add a stock, you must register the gun as a short-barreled rifle ($200 stamp tax) - this will also allow you to add a VFG. If you want just the VFG and no stock, you must register it as an "Any Other Weapon (AOW)" which is a $5 stamp tax. If you do either of these without registering, you are indeed putting yourself in danger of being sent to prison on an NFA violation if caught.

Not exactly correct. It will still cost you $200 because you are "manufacturing" an AOW. It costs $5 to transfer it though.

Posted: 7/22/2008 5:24:34 PM EDT

[#22]

put your cheek on the buffer tube and you can hold it just like a rifle...

Posted: 7/22/2008 5:25:16 PM EDT

[#23]

Quoted:
You hold it like a normal pistol, by the pistol grip.

If you add a stock, you must register the gun as a short-barreled rifle ($200 stamp tax) - this will also allow you to add a VFG. If you want just the VFG and no stock, you must register it as an "Any Other Weapon (AOW)" which is a $5 stamp tax. If you do either of these without registering, you are indeed putting yourself in danger of being sent to prison on an NFA violation if caught.

It's $5 to transfer, but it's $200 for an individual (not a C2) to manufacture on a Form 1.

How was your first year?

Posted: 7/22/2008 5:36:15 PM EDT

[#24]

I never understood the AR-15 pistol from any sort of practical standpoint. The rail on the bottom, which a VFG could be easily added can only increase the number of potential felons that have no clue as to the laws.