[ARCHIVED THREAD] - How Many Zombies--- (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 11/10/2011 5:36:26 PM EDT
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Would you probably have to go through from your house to your BOL in a total Z apocalypse. You wake up and 95% of folks in your area are now among the undead. How many do you think you will have to go through to get to a location where you can chill for a long time? Just you, no family. Me, grab weapons and BoB, grab canoe, put mtn bike in canoe (not critical), put in water out back. Zombie potential 0-3 paddle to everglades 0 unless they can swim. Haul canoe and equipment over levy into glades. Zombie potential 0-5 zombie fishermen. Paddle out into farmlands and then ride the levy system to my BOL. Zombie potential 0-3 a day. (two day walk or one day ride) 11 max Zombie potential. I think I am going to be ok. Once in my location, I can hold out for quite some time and the chances of a Z getting me is pretty low. Lots of gators and water. ETA, I also live in one of the most populated counties in Florida. My location was selected for its buggin out/in abilities. If I had some concertina I could bug in. For a week maybe. I live on a waterway that leads directly to the glades. |
| I live next to a major 2 lane divided highway......so my chances are pretty high. I would say I would be better off just bugging in, but my house has some damn big windows that would be difficuly to board up. My best bet is to cross the highway (foor or truck) and within 2 min the zed threat goes from med-high to nill (open farm land) |
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How many zombies does it take to get a penguin off the top of a water tower? The water tower defense has always been one for consideration. You never get thirsty and you can pee on the zombies during the shooting breaks. +1 on pee... I would have 20 to 30ish... |
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i live right next to a school, and only 2 roads in and out of the area. so im f'ed if i try to leave if its 95% zombies. just 1000 of the 1-5 grader zombies is enough to be troublesome. i have rolling metal shutters for all but 2 windows. the other 2 take about 15 minutes to put up the yard is completely fenced in, but only 2 sides are metal, so the wood is a weak spot but will slow them down until breached. My friend and roomate do work at the Jail thats about 1.5 mile away, but a pretty straight shot from here to there. So i guess that would be the main secondary location to consider unless it was already overrun. Its also next to a college and a few strip clubs. lol
So if it happens during a school day were looking at 2500 zeds at least depending on if people went to work. and the schools are packed. then you got people coming for their kids, etc. so the number can be maybe 5000 in the small area around me, its mainly houses but 2 streets behind me is a large apartment complex. so not good numbers for me in either regard. if there is no school. 50-150 depending on how many stay. there is a small amount of law enforcement and military families mixed in here. so i think a couple of them might do ok. though if i have to start shooting, its no telling how many will come due to the noise. does not look good either way. |
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Would you probably have to go through from your house to your BOL in a total Z apocalypse. You wake up and 95% of folks in your area are now among the undead. How many do you think you will have to go through to get to a location where you can chill for a long time? Just you, no family. Me, grab weapons and BoB, grab canoe, put mtn bike in canoe (not critical), put in water out back. Zombie potential 0-3 paddle to everglades 0 unless they can swim. Haul canoe and equipment over levy into glades. Zombie potential 0-5 zombie fishermen. Paddle out into farmlands and then ride the levy system to my BOL. Zombie potential 0-3 a day. (two day walk or one day ride) 11 max Zombie potential. I think I am going to be ok. Once in my location, I can hold out for quite some time and the chances of a Z getting me is pretty low. Lots of gators and water. ETA, I also live in one of the most populated counties in Florida. My location was selected for its buggin out/in abilities. If I had some concertina I could bug in. For a week maybe. I live on a waterway that leads directly to the glades. Not to poke holes in your plan but: 1. Have you considered zombie alligators? 2. Utilizing a canoe, you are setting yourself up for a "boating accident" which we all know has a tendancy to strike members of this forum at an unusually high rate. |
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More than I'd like, but not too many to handle. Largely rural area, 10 miles out of town on a fairly busy road, but there is a very small neighborhood(one road and a cul-de-sac) a few hundred yards away and a neighbor 100yds across the road , other than that it is scattered farms. Providing the authorities don't barricade the roads, my BOL is just over an hour away, but all rural driving and only a couple VERY small towns to go through, which I could skirt around if necessary.
Providing that I don't have to obtain fuel on my way there, I think I am looking at no more than 20-30 potential wanderers to be concerned with in the 20ft dashes between my front door or basement outside entrance and my van. If they started getting close, I could pull the van's side door to within an inch of the basement's door, so loading up could be virtually risk-less. Once on the road, I may occasionally have to swerve around whatever zeds decide to take to walking the rural roads, but I'm not too worried about those ones. |
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Quoted: Not to poke holes in your plan but: 1. Have you considered zombie alligators? 2. Utilizing a canoe, you are setting yourself up for a "boating accident" which we all know has a tendancy to strike members of this forum at an unusually high rate. Considered the gators but none of the documentaries show undead animals along with humans. The "movies" do but they are just movies. I forgot about the boating accident problem and that's a good valid question, but it as chance I have to take. Its my only realistic way out.
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Assuming the Zpoc was in full swing and I was already home... I'd have hundreds if not thousands before I managed to get out of the city, then if im really careful about what route I take to get to my location maybe another couple hundred.
Glad I got plenty of ammo... 
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totally varies. My gameplan is lay low for a few days after it peaks, observe the enemy. Then the game-plan is round up survivors (friends, family, hot chicks, people with useful skills), then stock up on essentials, and take the convoy to the final destination.
Phase 1, Laying Low: 0-10 Zeds Phase 2, Rounding Up Survivors: unknown, depends on length of time it takes to find who I'm looking for Phase 3. Raid abandoned shops for supplies: 100s of Zeds, dozens of hostile survivors Phase 4, the sustainable fortress: unknown (in the middle of nowhere so Zed #s are low, but it could be years till the outbreak passes) |
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Well I live in an urban area, so if I woke up and 95% had turned that would mean that there would be almost 2.4 million zombies in the metro area. I live close to the city center so I can safely say that going any direction there would be a lot more zombies than I could handle. I wonder though about the accuracy of the 95% infection rate. It seems that quite a few people would either be eaten completely or die from accidents/homicides/suicide. That being said even if the infection rate was down to 70% I would still be looking at a city (and suburbs) containing roughly 1.8 million zombies. Thinking about this bugging in starts to sound great except for all of the stories where the cities end up being either firebombed or nuked. Shit, one house-fire with no responding fire-department would be catastrophic to most urban neighborhoods. Timing would also be key. It's not like all 95% would turn at once, it would need some time to spread. I had a thread a while ago about what to do in an urban area and based on the conversation I think that early forecasting would be huge. In other words try get out of the city before SHTF if at all possible. If the infection were to start in my city that would be hard but if it started in other cities first it could be doable. You could always gather your stuff and get a hotel on the outskirts of the suburbs to lay low in. This way you could still go in to work the next day if it turned out to be nothing, or was contained. If not you would have a huge head start on everyone trying to flee the city. |
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Im bugging in until its absolutely neccessary for me to leave.
My house is all brick with steel doors. I have 4 windows on the front of the house, 1 on the side, and 4 on the back to board up. I've even thought about once the day comes i could climb up into the attic and cut a hole in the roof to get up without having to actually go outside. I absolutely hate a couple of my neighbors so hopefully they will be "walkiing" around while im on the roof. 
I also know for a fact that 1 neighbor has 200k plus rounds of ammunition in his house and another neighbor happens to be mormon and prepped out the ass. So if the day ever comes and they just so happen to be gone i have supplies close by. |
| there is a tv show about preppers now. shows a bit of guns to. though the one i saw did not mention zombies. but all of the people trained somewhat or practiced methods of self sustaining. dont remember if it WAS ON DISC OR SCIENCE. your comment made me think of that |
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Not to poke holes in your plan but: 1. Have you considered zombie alligators? 2. Utilizing a canoe, you are setting yourself up for a "boating accident" which we all know has a tendancy to strike members of this forum at an unusually high rate. Considered the gators but none of the documentaries show undead animals along with humans. The "movies" do but they are just movies. I forgot about the boating accident problem and that's a good valid question, but it as chance I have to take. Its my only realistic way out. Put "life jackets" on your guns. Just in case.
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2nd floor apt... 15mi from DC... not looking good.... plan is to hole up, and block all windows so no movement is seen from outside. Im in the same predicament, except I'm on the 3rd floor of an apt in Alexandria VA right outside of DC, my building is secured meaning you need a code to get in the doors or a pass key to get in through the garage, so as long as no dumbass tries to escape and leaves the garage doors up by jamming it or getting Zeds stuck in then I'm ok to BOG in. Good thing I can seal the stairway doors coming onto the 3rd floor so no entry from Zeds there, only other way is by elevator, and I think Zeds are too dumb to know how to use an elevator. Balcony can serve to purpose, escape route or sniper nest. |
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I'm fortunate to live on a small, local private lake and I will be heading out to a very small island that is maybe 8 yards by 6 yards. Taking some fishing gear and will scavenge cinder blocks from a boat ramp to hide a fire. Then tarps or whatever I come up with for shelter.
Lucky I will only have to go 20 yards from my back door to reach the water. Taken last snow storm. 
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I'm fortunate to live on a small, local private lake and I will be heading out to a very small island that is maybe 8 yards by 6 yards. Taking some fishing gear and will scavenge cinder blocks from a boat ramp to hide a fire. Then tarps or whatever I come up with for shelter. Lucky I will only have to go 20 yards from my back door to reach the water. Taken last snow storm. http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/17434_466677950603_566670603_11267059_6336799_n.jpg You should get a pickup bed camper on that island with solar panels. You'd be living like a king. 
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totally varies. My gameplan is lay low for a few days after it peaks, observe the enemy. Then the game-plan is round up survivors (friends, family, hot chicks, people with useful skills), then stock up on essentials, and take the convoy to the final destination. Phase 1, Laying Low: 0-10 Zeds Phase 2, Rounding Up Survivors: unknown, depends on length of time it takes to find who I'm looking for Phase 3. Raid abandoned shops for supplies: 100s of Zeds, dozens of hostile survivors Phase 4, the sustainable fortress: unknown (in the middle of nowhere so Zed #s are low, but it could be years till the outbreak passes) So phase 3 involves taking stuff from other people that are still alive? I'm sorry, but the Zeds are the enemy. Anybody still consuming oxygen is gonna be pretty low on my hit list. Mind you, if they try and hit me, all bets are off. |
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Im bugging in until its absolutely neccessary for me to leave. My house is all brick with steel doors. I have 4 windows on the front of the house, 1 on the side, and 4 on the back to board up. I've even thought about once the day comes i could climb up into the attic and cut a hole in the roof to get up without having to actually go outside. I absolutely hate a couple of my neighbors so hopefully they will be "walkiing" around while im on the roof.
I also know for a fact that 1 neighbor has 200k plus rounds of ammunition in his house and another neighbor happens to be mormon and prepped out the ass. So if the day ever comes and they just so happen to be gone i have supplies close by. Wow, so your plan is to take your neighbors stuff. Why don't you buy your own? I'm trying not to sound like an ass here, but so far I have read a lot of fail in this thread. |
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Defenitley would be bugging in, I live on a farm with thousands and thousands and thousands of acres of farmland and tree farms surrounding me. There is a freeway a mile and a half north of my house but no cities or town for 15-20 minutes. The largest city being about 14,000 people and its half an hour away, another 2 cities 20 minutes away in either direction with about 4,000 people and one with about 2,000 people 15 minutes north. There are about 10-15 houses in the surrounding area and most of them I know and are older people/farmers. We have gas and diesel tanks on the farm, generators, compressors, full fabrication shop, wells, and plenty of guns and ammo in the house. If things get really bad we have another little bunk house that is made fully of cinder blocks, has 1 door and 4 windows. Would be pretty easy to lock that up solid. And for the looters....we have a sign that reads "WARNING....no warning shots" But to answer the OP's question, unless they walk a long way...zero. Doesnt mean I wont do some road hunting though
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| I plan to bug in, have a large stock of plywood sheets in the shed so I can board up windows, I also have a bunch of empty sandbags that can be filled up pretty quick with soil from my garden. In the Spring we plan to have either a 6 or 8 ft privacy fence installed so that should keep the Z's out and allow us to let the dogs out to do their business. |
| Hmmm lets see here. Local pop. is roughly 125k. Students for the local CC and university can tack on another 75k during most times of the year. BUT I do live on the south side of town and can mobilize in a variety of directions fairly easily. Assuming 95%...It could get ugly. Im glad I have a stealthy little econo car. Most likely I will recon to a good friends location about 25 minutes away before I make the final run to the family farm about 3 hrs away in the piney woods of east Texas. If I don't make it out early, then I will pb bug in for a little while to get the MIL wrangled in along with a few trusted friends. Then the treck will be made after it has died down a little ....hopefully. |
| well i have close to 2 pallets of mre's and 1 pallet of canned water plus lots of cases of bottled water stored in my attic which is fairly large about like a standard bedroom enough room for 4-5 people to live if we all slept on the floor and it has a pull down stair case so i would be up in my attic moving from roof access to attic and when one comes n the house i would crack open the stairs just enough to see my target and take the shot if no others where around i would take the bodies outside and clean up try to prepare for the next intruder |
| nearest town is 20 miles away with a population of 1,800. With in five miles of my home are 100-300 homes at most being my home is back in the woods assessable by one private road which I own that means at worst, amusing each home has an average 3 person family I would face up to 900 zombies I think I would likely not waste ammo I would just hope in my dodge 2500 4x4 an plow the zombies in the ground . I have a homage bumper, ( i used 12 inch I beams from a mobile home frame ) got 5 deer this year without a scratch so I think it will withstand zombies . |
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nearest town is 20 miles away with a population of 1,800. With in five miles of my home are 100-300 homes at most being my home is back in the woods assessable by one private road which I own that means at worst, amusing each home has an average 3 person family I would face up to 900 zombies I think I would likely not waste ammo I would just hope in my dodge 2500 4x4 an plow the zombies in the ground . I have a homage bumper, ( i used 12 inch I beams from a mobile home frame ) got 5 deer this year without a scratch so I think it will withstand zombies . If Z day happened tomorrow, I'd have to have a couple pallets full of ammo to get where I'm going. Yep, I'd be a zed within a matter of hours I'm afraid. 
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Quoted: I'm fortunate to live on a small, local private lake and I will be heading out to a very small island that is maybe 8 yards by 6 yards. Taking some fishing gear and will scavenge cinder blocks from a boat ramp to hide a fire. Then tarps or whatever I come up with for shelter. Lucky I will only have to go 20 yards from my back door to reach the water. Taken last snow storm. http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/17434_466677950603_566670603_11267059_6336799_n.jpg Zombies can walk underwater... this has been caught on film in at least one zombie documentary... You may reconsider the island BOL!! |
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I'm fortunate to live on a small, local private lake and I will be heading out to a very small island that is maybe 8 yards by 6 yards. Taking some fishing gear and will scavenge cinder blocks from a boat ramp to hide a fire. Then tarps or whatever I come up with for shelter. Lucky I will only have to go 20 yards from my back door to reach the water. Taken last snow storm. http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/17434_466677950603_566670603_11267059_6336799_n.jpg Zombies can walk underwater... this has been caught on film in at least one zombie documentary... You may reconsider the island BOL!! Stock the lake with piranhas
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Zero, hopefully. Worst case scenario, a veritable fuck ton. I am in a relatively "off the beaten trail" town myself, both at home and 15 min drive to work. We are not near any "big" city, but there are enough small towns and schools nearby that I could easily have a lot of shooting or avoiding to do on my way home. Our house also has many big windows, which would make a board up difficult. I really don't think our house is setup for a BOL, however if I could stockpile a bunch of wood SOMEWHERE it COULD be done. My best BOL in that scenario at THIS MOMENT would be the firehouse down the road where I work as a volunteer. The place is built like a fortress, and assuming the key code works to get in, it would be pretty darn safe. Sorry to say in the ZED day, I would not be responding to any fire or EMS calls, as my family would be my top priority. Fire and EMS services would be futile by that point anyway. |
| I'm in college so if I was at my parents house probably like 200-300 and if I was at my place getting outta the town would be difficult, around 500-750 but I could run down most of them with the truck and out run them, once I'm out of the city I can make it to my BOL with only seeing 20-50. (all back roads) |
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2nd floor apt... 15mi from DC... not looking good.... plan is to hole up, and block all windows so no movement is seen from outside. I feel your pain; or at least used to. I lived in N. VA all too close to that crime-ridden hamlet known as DC. From a Z-day point of view, that entire area is one gigantic deathtrap. Utterly hopeless given the chaos of packs of zack roaming the streets. Heck, the natives lose 40% of their IQ during snow. Luckily, I am now in the rolling hills of Colorado. Zeds would be falling all over the place as they try to navigate the ice patches and snow hills. I could clean out my area in relative short order. Lots of open space for Zeds to roam and lots of cows for them to much on. Plus, the barbed wire all over the place would make things even more difficult. |
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How many zombies does it take to get a penguin off the top of a water tower? The water tower defense has always been one for consideration. You never get thirsty and you can pee on the zombies during the shooting breaks. the down side, of course, is once you are 'safely' up on the water tower, you can never come down. Ever. |
| Ultimately I want to make it back to family, and fellow ARFCOMers out side of Nashville, and head to the BOL from there. The problem is I'm 20 minutes from downtown Atlanta, and 2 miles from US41 and I-75. My plan is to bug in until food supplies are gone, and hopefully the herd has died down. I'll establish communication via HF with other survivors and family (all my needed contacts are hams), and will setup the plan to make the trip. 3 hours via car and interstate, so I figure its going to be a week or so journey on foot. Zombie encounter potential, HIGH. |
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My suburb has about 100K population. Luckily I don't need to pass through it. I am on the outskirt of it and my BOL is further out of town on my side. I live about a mile from the freeway through a residential community, and the freeway out of town is rarely busy.
The problem is guessing how early you realize and can bug out. Scenario 1 - Iit happens at night. I will be asleep and won't realize it until the morning. However, that goes for everyone else too so shouldn't have too much competition on the road as most other people would be in their homes still as well. The ones that have turned in their homes will most likely be wandering in their homes still because they have no intelligence and probably wouldn't wander out into the road unless they heard something. I get up early, so assuming I loaded everything into the car quickly and got on the road early, I would only have to deal with a couple strays that wandered out of their homes into the street. Estimating 50. Scenario 2 - Iit happened in the middle of the day. Everyone is awke and the roads are packed, I would have to find an alternate way out of town. This would include driving through more of the city, more traffic on the roads = moving slower, more motor noise would draw more turned out of the homes and into the street for the Walker buffet line. In this case, easily over 1000. Early detection is key. If I could get out quick, I would. Scenario 3 - It happened in the middle of the day, but I don't bug out immediately, I stay put for a week or so. The walkers migrate towards a busier/louder area (more people, more walkers groaning, etc. Like a downtown metro area) and disperse from the residential area, then try to get out quickly and quietly after things have died down a bit in my community. In this case, maybe 150. If the odds were ever over 500 encounters then I would probably stay put at my house and wait for my odds to improve. Be quiet, keep lights off, don't make noise that can be heard outside and I won't draw them to my front door or down my cul de sac. |