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looks great! anyone do a winter/snow pattern?
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Went all over town looking for the right colors and only found 2 of them. Khaki and brown. I wonder how well OD would approximate the green. Maybe too dark?
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Originally Posted By ColonelKlink:
Went all over town looking for the right colors and only found 2 of them. Khaki and brown. I wonder how well OD would approximate the green. Maybe too dark? It wouldn't. It is far too dark. It makes an excellent low-light color though. I've done a lot of experimentation and I'm working with... Krylon Fusion Camo - Khaki (base), Sand (foliage for the base [if you look closely at a large swatch of Multicam fabric {like the 60" wide bolt of 1000D that I am using for upholstery} you see that there are two shades of tan used as the base layer] If I hadn't already sprayed Khaki as my base, I would use Sand as the base and Khaki as the foliage color), woodland light green (green foliage) & O.D. (low-lights) Krylon Fusion - Satin Espresso (dark overspray of the sand/khaki base), Satin Dover White (high-lights... this color could be improved upon, but it's the best Krylon color that I've found) Krylon Outdoor Spaces - Satin Moss (green foliage) According to Krylon, no Texas distributors had ordered the Camo Sand and Camo Woodland Light Green colors. They offered to ship me one of each gratis, but I'm doing a car and a kayak and need more than one. I went to a Sherwin Williams and ordered what I needed in case (6) quantities. They were cheaper than WalMart, but I bought them through my LLC... I've also found that positive and negative stencils made from printer sheets for overhead projectors and held in place with stencil adhesive provide more satisfying results. On a small item, like a rifle I'd use painters tape like everyone else, but I would make both positive and negative stencils using the wide tape. ETA: I intend to clear coat with an epoxy |
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Originally Posted By BigFatDog:
Originally Posted By ColonelKlink:
Went all over town looking for the right colors and only found 2 of them. Khaki and brown. I wonder how well OD would approximate the green. Maybe too dark? It wouldn't. It is far too dark. It makes an excellent low-light color though. I've done a lot of experimentation and I'm working with... Krylon Fusion Camo - Khaki (base), Sand (foliage for the base [if you look closely at a large swatch of Multicam fabric {like the 60" wide bolt of 1000D that I am using for upholstery} you see that there are two shades of tan used as the base layer] If I hadn't already sprayed Khaki as my base, I would use Sand as the base and Khaki as the foliage color), woodland light green (green foliage) & O.D. (low-lights) Krylon Fusion - Satin Espresso (dark overspray of the sand/khaki base), Satin Dover White (high-lights... this color could be improved upon, but it's the best Krylon color that I've found) Krylon Outdoor Spaces - Satin Moss (green foliage) According to Krylon, no Texas distributors had ordered the Camo Sand and Camo Woodland Light Green colors. They offered to ship me one of each gratis, but I'm doing a car and a kayak and need more than one. I went to a Sherwin Williams and ordered what I needed in case (6) quantities. They were cheaper than WalMart, but I bought them through my LLC... I've also found that positive and negative stencils made from printer sheets for overhead projectors and held in place with stencil adhesive provide more satisfying results. On a small item, like a rifle I'd use painters tape like everyone else, but I would make both positive and negative stencils using the wide tape. ETA: I intend to clear coat with an epoxy My base is Krylon the rest of the colors are found at a local hobby store, it's best to bring in a swatch of cloth, I'll see if I can dig out the last bottles and give you specific colors and brand names. I'm going to put the light sand and burnt umber patterns on when the weather gets better on all the guns I posted. |
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Originally Posted By Adirondack1:
Originally Posted By BigFatDog:
Originally Posted By ColonelKlink:
Went all over town looking for the right colors and only found 2 of them. Khaki and brown. I wonder how well OD would approximate the green. Maybe too dark? It wouldn't. It is far too dark. It makes an excellent low-light color though. I've done a lot of experimentation and I'm working with... Krylon Fusion Camo - Khaki (base), Sand (foliage for the base [if you look closely at a large swatch of Multicam fabric {like the 60" wide bolt of 1000D that I am using for upholstery} you see that there are two shades of tan used as the base layer] If I hadn't already sprayed Khaki as my base, I would use Sand as the base and Khaki as the foliage color), woodland light green (green foliage) & O.D. (low-lights) Krylon Fusion - Satin Espresso (dark overspray of the sand/khaki base), Satin Dover White (high-lights... this color could be improved upon, but it's the best Krylon color that I've found) Krylon Outdoor Spaces - Satin Moss (green foliage) According to Krylon, no Texas distributors had ordered the Camo Sand and Camo Woodland Light Green colors. They offered to ship me one of each gratis, but I'm doing a car and a kayak and need more than one. I went to a Sherwin Williams and ordered what I needed in case (6) quantities. They were cheaper than WalMart, but I bought them through my LLC... I've also found that positive and negative stencils made from printer sheets for overhead projectors and held in place with stencil adhesive provide more satisfying results. On a small item, like a rifle I'd use painters tape like everyone else, but I would make both positive and negative stencils using the wide tape. ETA: I intend to clear coat with an epoxy My base is Krylon the rest of the colors are found at a local hobby store, it's best to bring in a swatch of cloth, I'll see if I can dig out the last bottles and give you specific colors and brand names. I'm going to put the light sand and burnt umber patterns on when the weather gets better on all the guns I posted. I wanted to stay with products from the same manufacture to minimize some future compatibility issue, since the items I'm painting are going to see a lot more UV and the other things nature has to dish out than the average rifle. |
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Originally Posted By Adirondack1:
Here is a good guide to painting a Multicam style pattern: http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e51/Adirondack1/multicampainting.jpg I've seen that and in the opinion of several artists (including graphic artists) who I have consulted with, it makes a major error and an omission It substitutes a green layer over the brown overspray for what should be a khaki or sand (depending on your base coat [tan1 & tan2 below]) "foliage patterned" layer under the brown overspray... It omits a dark green only "foliage patterned" fade layer which occurs before the low-lights. The best replicant that I have produced on a large panel consists of... Base layer of tan 1 Foliage layer tan 2 Brown overspray Foliage fade layer Lt Green Foliage fade blend layer Lt Green-Dk Green Foliage fade layer DK Green Low-light layer High-light layer |
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Random Saturday Bump..
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Quick someone call 912 for the WAAAAAAAAAMBULANCE.
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Question: Would your rifle smell like spray paint and have that sort of plastic sticky feeling?
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Originally Posted By AKFALAR: Question: Would your rifle smell like spray paint and have that sort of plastic sticky feeling? Mine did for a couple days but it doesnt anymore |
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monthly bump
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Quick someone call 912 for the WAAAAAAAAAMBULANCE.
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monthly bump
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Quick someone call 912 for the WAAAAAAAAAMBULANCE.
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Kill all but Nine...
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im am afraid of trying it on my AR but the AK will be getting this treatment very soon. good job!
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This was a really helpful thread- thanks to the guy that posted it!
I'm getting ready to Multicam my M4 and I'm going to try and copy the Multicam pattern as precisely as I can. I'm an artist by trade (tattooing, sign painting, watercolor, airbrush, etc) so I'm curious how close I can get. I'll take pix of each step, as I do it, and I'll at least post finished pix. It'll be a while, though- I'm still trying to decide which paint to use; andvtgen I still have to order it! The one comment I would make about the original post is that I think it's important to utilize the same scale and as close to the same patterns as possible because, from what I understand, Crye put an enormous amount of research into figuring out the scale, color and shapes to most effectively fool the eye. I know from the HD camp that's produced for hunting, that scale is INTEGRAL to the success of the pattern! Whether you think it "looks" good or not on a smaller surface (i.e. a gun), if you really want it to work as well as the real stuff, you NEED to maintain all the features of the original pattern. |
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Bump to keep alive
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Quick someone call 912 for the WAAAAAAAAAMBULANCE.
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Pretty sweet! Awesome write up! Love this place!
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DILIGENTIA, VIS, CELERITAS
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Originally Posted By RocketmanOU:
Won't win any beauty contests, but darned if it doesn't work, even in the green Ohio foliage! http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad111/RocketmanOU/Camo/HPIM0868-1Small.jpg http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad111/RocketmanOU/Camo/HPIM0871-1Small.jpg http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad111/RocketmanOU/Camo/HPIM0876Small.jpg Well you must have done a great job because I can't see it in a single picture! Nice job! |
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YAY! I got an Army Tank
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Originally Posted By DM1975:
Here is my "multicam-inspired" paing job on my newest build. I know it is not perfect, but it is effective and matches my helmet as well. The rifle is just cell phone pics but I will shoot some good pictures as soon as my optics get here. http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c29/DM1975/Recce/63df59aa-2.jpg http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c29/DM1975/Recce/c17d1d08-2.jpg http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c29/DM1975/Recce/3a87f237-2.jpg And the helmet http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c29/DM1975/helmet/h2.jpg http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c29/DM1975/helmet/h5.jpg http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c29/DM1975/helmet/h3.jpg Looks good! Its different and I like that! |
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Thanks. I should have primed it first but I was too impatient. I cooked it in the oven but it is still a little sticky feeling.
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YAY! I got an Army Tank
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Originally Posted By DM1975:
Thanks. I should have primed it first but I was too impatient. I cooked it in the oven but it is still a little sticky feeling. Give it a week or so. If it hasn't "dried" out by then hit it with some matte finish. Usually does the trick if I have a tacky issue. |
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Originally Posted By unforgiven5150:
Originally Posted By DM1975:
Thanks. I should have primed it first but I was too impatient. I cooked it in the oven but it is still a little sticky feeling. Give it a week or so. If it hasn't "dried" out by then hit it with some matte finish. Usually does the trick if I have a tacky issue. This. Thanks to the wonderful humidity of Southern Ohio this time of year, mine took about 6 days to finally stop being a bit sticky, one of which was spent in front of the dehumidifier. I like the matte finish too, since it seems to make the paint a bit tougher (still has nothing on duracoat, but this is Krylon we're talking about here). |
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Also, I have an AAR to give - this, plus my multicam BDU's, plus a simple headnet draped over my boonie rendered me totally invisible to the 4 deer wandering within 10-20 feet of me over the past three days (while coyote hunting). One didn't even give me a second look. Given that it was still broad daylight out, I was pretty happy.
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Collector and purveyor of useless information
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YAY! I got an Army Tank
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Inventor, CEO...more importantly, RIFLEMAN
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Originally Posted By DM1975:
Thanks for the info guys. Here is a better picture of it. I am still waiting on SWFA to ship the scope (almost a week now and the order has not processed) http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c29/DM1975/Recce/IMG_3239.jpg Love the look! If you want to get rid of some of the gloss/reflection, you can very lightly take some 0000 steel wool to it in the shiny spots. |
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Thanks, that is mainly just the editing. It is pretty flat and I even shot it with clear flat. The unedited version has very little specular highlights.
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Originally Posted By unforgiven5150:
I've been debating about repainting this in multicam, just so all my stuff is the same. But on the other hand its nice to have some difference. http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k348/un4gvn5150/SPR/IMG_4038.jpg I wouldn't, I think it looks good how it is. |
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KS, USA
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YAY! I got an Army Tank
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Can anyone list the correct colors and brands to do this. I want to multi cam my SBR and was hoping you guys could point me in the right direction.
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Originally Posted By Kali110505:
Can anyone list the correct colors and brands to do this. I want to multi cam my SBR and was hoping you guys could point me in the right direction. Thanks I did in my post above. I used krylon. |
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Finally finished mine today. It's a little darker than I had wanted but it works. Maybe I'll dust it with some khaki to lighten it up a little.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/321075_248978018476686_100000934691578_693315_768379661_n.jpg |
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I like it!
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Originally Posted By buzz_gum:
Finally finished mine today. It's a little darker than I had wanted but it works. Maybe I'll dust it with some khaki to lighten it up a little. https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/321075_248978018476686_100000934691578_693315_768379661_n.jpg Looks good! |
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Originally Posted By DM1975:
Now with optics... http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c29/DM1975/Recce/Recce.jpg This looks great now, more cohesive. |
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Can't believe I just found this thread.
Great stuff! Thanks to op and the other "idea" contributors. The only painting I've done is duracoat (pink) on the furniture of my wife's rifle. Should I expect any binding issues on the dust cover, mag release, aimpoint caps, etc. Krylon directly on barrels? Does it burn up with a hot barrel? A lot of the examples I've seen don't look like they were stripped down much. Thanks! |
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Very nice OP.Would love to give this a try.
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