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Posted: 5/15/2003 9:04:13 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/15/2003 9:11:36 AM EDT by SWIRE]
To follow up on my earlier post on why can't the Republican's do anything even though they control the House, Senate, and Whitehouse...
House of Representatives Speaker Dennis Hastert said on Thursday no decision had been made on whether the House will let a politically sensitive 1994 ban on assault weapons expire next year.
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http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=584&ncid=584&e=3&u=/nm/20030515/pl_nm/congress_guns_dc
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I guess these guys have not gotten our message. Time to hit them all again. Follow this link to write them. [url]http://www.capwiz.com/nra/dbq/officials/[/url] Full artile here [url]http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=584&ncid=584&e=3&u=/nm/20030515/pl_nm/congress_guns_dc[/url]
Link Posted: 5/15/2003 9:06:47 AM EDT
they'll be sorry
Link Posted: 5/15/2003 9:30:16 AM EDT
Keep them if you have them. Get them if you don't. Buy all you can while you can. Never trust politicians with your freedom.
Link Posted: 5/15/2003 9:58:30 AM EDT
BOHICA???? or... are they just backing off a bit because of DeLays earlier comments? From what I've been reading, the press and anti's have been hammering Bush, DeLay and the Repubs in general by accusing them of playing party politics and abridging the legislative process. Even though it sounded like good news to us, making a public statement that the bill will never pass before it even has a chance to be heard in committee, wasn't a very wise PR move. This thing is really starting to get a [b]lot[/b] of attention. [url=http://news.google.com/news?q=cluster:reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml%3Ftype%3DpoliticsNews%26storyID%3D27502­23&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&edition=&scoring=d&start=0&sa=N&filter=0] A Google news search turned up 51 articles [/url] (many appear to be the same article, but if you read a few some have additional comments or spins). What has me worried isn't the anti's, or the RKBA side... we know where they stand. This thing is going to be decided by the people in between. Unfortuantly, those people will be fed by the media to exploit their emotions and ignorance.
Link Posted: 5/15/2003 10:06:38 AM EDT
Originally Posted By LoginName: BOHICA???? or... are they just backing off a bit because of DeLays earlier comments? From what I've been reading, the press and anti's have been hammering Bush, DeLay and the Repubs in general by accusing them of playing party politics and abridging the legislative process. Even though it sounded like good news to us, making a public statement that the bill will never pass before it even has a chance to be heard in committee, wasn't a very wise PR move. ....
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Agreed. Way too much heat on this issue this early in the process.
Link Posted: 5/15/2003 10:07:08 AM EDT
Originally Posted By LoginName: BOHICA???? or... are they just backing off a bit because of DeLays earlier comments?
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Regardless of what they are doing, one thing is certain. The Republicans are not acting like they are in the majority and they are definately not taking a strong stand on RKBA.
Link Posted: 5/15/2003 10:18:13 AM EDT
SWIRE I fully agree with you. The liberal press seems to always have the Republicans on the defensive! Where is the FREE press when you really need it? [50]
Link Posted: 5/15/2003 10:35:12 AM EDT
Mabey they are just backing off a little. They know the conseqences, remember 1994.
Link Posted: 5/15/2003 10:49:29 AM EDT
My Response [b] Sir I urge you not to support H.R. 2038 or other resolutions that may extent the 1994 Assault Weapon Ban (AWB). As you probably know, recent resolutions, including H.R. 2038, seek to extend and / or strengthen the 1994 AWB set to expire in September 2004. Instead of banning weapons based on their appearance, as the current ban does, I would rather see legislation that increases the penalties for criminals that commit crimes with firearms and for licensed dealers that knowingly violate the current laws. It is my belief that AWB and gun control issues in general were major factors in Republican victories in both the congressional and presidential elections. As a Republican I would like to support you and President Bush in the next election. However, the outcome of this matter will be a key factor in my determination of whom I will support. [/b]
Link Posted: 5/15/2003 10:54:07 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/15/2003 10:56:02 AM EDT by Oslow]
Originally Posted By LoginName: Even though it sounded like good news to us, making a public statement that the bill will never pass before it even has a chance to be heard in committee, wasn't a very wise PR move.
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The "in your face" stuff may make you feel good but it will usually cause more problems than it is worth.
Link Posted: 5/15/2003 10:56:00 AM EDT
they'll be sorry
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Yeah, we''l show `em! We'll [b]VOTE[/b] for `em! That'll make `em sorry!!!!!! [rolleyes] Scott
Link Posted: 5/15/2003 10:58:53 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/15/2003 10:59:31 AM EDT by markl32]
Originally Posted By SWIRE: Regardless of what they are doing, one thing is certain. The Republicans are not acting like they are in the majority and they are definately not taking a strong stand on RKBA.
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I am shocked, shocked to find the republicans waffling on RKBA! But wait, we have to vote republican to keep the gun grabbing democrats out of office...
Link Posted: 5/15/2003 11:02:06 AM EDT
After reading that I just Faxed Frist, Hastert,and DeLay A one paragraph (3 lines)thank you for your supporting the SUNSET! DeLay Fax:202-225-5241 (DC) 281-240-2959 (Local) Frist:202-228-1264 615-352-9985 Hastert:202-225-0697 630-406-1808
Link Posted: 5/15/2003 11:02:42 AM EDT
There is [b]A LOT[/b] of time left before the final decision is made. Every week until then we will hear about "this guy supports this" and "this guy doesn't support that". Contact your legislators diligently but don't panic. In the meantime, follow this advice:
Originally Posted By SPECTRE: Keep them if you have them. Get them if you don't. Buy all you can while you can. Never trust politicians with your freedom.
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Link Posted: 5/15/2003 11:07:16 AM EDT
[img]http://www.nraila.org/media/mastheads/factsheet.gif[/img] The Most Sweeping Gun Ban Ever Introduced in Congress Clinton Gun Ban "Reenactment" Bans Millions More Guns H.R. 2038, introduced by Rep. Carolyn McCarthy (D-N.Y.), does not just "reenact" or "reauthorize" the 1994 Clinton ban, the so-called "assault weapon" law. It bans millions more guns. And it begins backdoor registration of guns. All told, it's a giant step closer to the goal stated by Clinton gun ban sponsor Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), on CBS 60 Minutes "If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an outright ban, picking up every one of them, Mr. and Mrs. America, turn them all in, I would have done it." There is no 10-year sunset provision in the bill. H.R. 2038 permanently bans every gun that is currently banned and, with numerous, overlapping provisions: Bans every gun made to comply with the Clinton ban. The Clinton ban dictated the kinds of grips, stocks and attachments new guns can have. Manufacturers and gun owners complied and new guns conform to the Clinton requirements. H.R. 2038 bans the new guns too. Bans guns exempted by name or type under the Clinton ban. Commonplace Ruger Mini-14s, Mini-30s, Ranch Rifles, .30 Caliber Carbines, and fixed-magazine semi-automatic center-fire rifles. Bans all semi-automatic shotguns. Bans Remington, Winchester, Beretta, Benelli, and other shotguns commonly used for hunting, trap, skeet, sporting clays, and self-defense. Bans them by banning their main component, called the "receiver" (Sec. 2(a)(30)(J)), and bans them because they have "any characteristic that can function as a grip"(Sec. 2(H)(ii) and (b)(42)). Any characteristic. Bans all detachable-magazine semi-automatic rifles because they have "any characteristic that can function as a grip." (Sec. 2(a)(30)(D)(iii) and (iv), and (b)(41) and (42)). Any characteristic. Bans target shooting rifles. Bans the three centerfire rifles most popular for marksmanship competitions: the Colt AR-15, the Springfield M1A and the M1 "Garand." Bans guns for self-defense. Bans any semi-automatic shotgun or rifle an Attorney General one day claims isn't "sporting," even though the U.S. Constitution, the constitutions of 44 states, and the laws of all 50 states recognize the right to use guns for defense. Bans 65 named guns (the Clinton law bans 19); Bans semi-auto fixed-magazine pistols of over 10 rounds capacity; Bans frames, receivers, and parts used to repair or refurbish guns; Bans importation of magazines exempted by the Clinton ban; Bans selling a legally-owned "assault weapon" with a magazine of over 10 rounds capacity. Bans guns rarely used in crime. A fact demonstrated by every state and local law enforcement agency report on the subject. The Congressionally-mandated study of the Clinton ban found that the guns "were never used in more than a fraction of all gun murders." Begins backdoor registration. Requires manufacturers of guns, frames, receivers, and other parts to report the names of their dealers. Requires dealers to report any of the guns and parts they have in stock. Bans private sales of the guns and parts. The next step is to register individual purchasers.
Link Posted: 5/15/2003 2:02:17 PM EDT
Originally Posted By SWIRE: To follow up on my earlier post on why can't the Republican's do anything even though they control the House, Senate, and Whitehouse...
House of Representatives Speaker Dennis Hastert said on Thursday no decision had been made on whether the House will let a politically sensitive 1994 ban on assault weapons expire next year.
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http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=584&ncid=584&e=3&u=/nm/20030515/pl_nm/congress_guns_dc
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I guess these guys have not gotten our message. Time to hit them all again. Follow this link to write them. [url]http://www.capwiz.com/nra/dbq/officials/[/url] Full artile here [url]http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=584&ncid=584&e=3&u=/nm/20030515/pl_nm/congress_guns_dc[/url]
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I'm not surprised; politicians are snakes. OT By the way, I hate your avatar. I would really like to backhand the girl that is dancing in the car seat. I don't know what makes me feel that way but thanks for using it! It helps me work out some aggression.[img]http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung/grinser/grinning-smiley-002.gif[/img]
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