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7/1/2026 2:58:58 PM EDT
For a cool $45,000 you too can own a transferable Heckler and Koch MP5!!!!

HK MP5 Transferable SMG at AIM Surplus

May the odds be ever in your favor!

Edit: Made link not have the gay.
7/1/2026 3:01:28 PM EDT
[#1]
Lol

HK SP5 plus FRT for under $4k

save $42k and no NFA registration.
7/1/2026 3:02:52 PM EDT
[#2]
I *think* if you remove everything after the '?' in your link, it should remove all that tracking gibberish after it.

otherwise, sweet! too bad HK hates me tho :(

wife says remove the '?' too.
7/1/2026 3:03:08 PM EDT
[#3]
The market is currently slow on high end transferables, but that is not a bad price at the moment.
7/1/2026 3:05:53 PM EDT
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Makes more sense than a $80k Bro Dozer
7/1/2026 3:07:45 PM EDT
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The market is currently slow on high end transferables, but that is not a bad price at the moment.
Makes more sense than a $80k Bro Dozer


Both are good points.
7/1/2026 3:09:31 PM EDT
[#6]
*Laughs in super safe SP5k*
7/1/2026 3:11:26 PM EDT
[#7]
It has been a while since I kept up on what is what but it says registered receiver. If it is a double push pin and not a beater that is a great price. If it is a sear fixed to the receiver it loses the appeal but still a good price.
7/1/2026 3:12:09 PM EDT
[#8]
Here is a clean link:

Link

The is very lacking in detail.  It just says "registered receiver."  There is nothing about the provenance of the gun.  Is it a converted 94 for example?  An LE gun from prior to 86?  Price is pretty low, so I have my doubts.
7/1/2026 3:15:41 PM EDT
[#9]
Today's high price is tomorrow's great deal.

**for what it's worth the market is pretty soft right now but that is a fair deal.
7/1/2026 3:16:19 PM EDT
[#10]
I’d imagine a transferable is a poor investment at the moment.
7/1/2026 3:20:11 PM EDT
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Likely just depends exactly what it is and how desirable it is.
7/1/2026 3:26:13 PM EDT
[#12]
I can buy a ton of FRTs for that price.
7/1/2026 3:31:47 PM EDT
[#13]
Pretty wild seeing the "Made in W-Germany" on the receiver
7/1/2026 3:33:41 PM EDT
[#14]
I wonder what the pay over time with Credova payments would be?
7/1/2026 3:46:28 PM EDT
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With interest that they charge?

$5500 a month for 18 months.

7/1/2026 3:48:07 PM EDT
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$32 a month for 375 years.
7/1/2026 3:52:30 PM EDT
[#17]
I just noticed the receiver markings:

Safe
Semiautomatic
Burst
Full auto

That's cool.

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7/1/2026 4:00:36 PM EDT
[#18]
Waiting for imported HK P7's under $1000.
7/1/2026 4:06:50 PM EDT
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I wouldn't be so sure.  Transferable MG's have steadily increased in value since 1986.
7/1/2026 4:14:21 PM EDT
[#20]
My Turkish SP5 and AS Designs FRT are indistinguishable from my buddy's "real" mp5s and mp5ks. Like sex in your mouth.

TT
7/1/2026 4:16:41 PM EDT
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My Turkish SP5 and AS Designs FRT are indistinguishable from my buddy's "real" mp5s and mp5ks. Like sex in your mouth.

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Just as good.
7/1/2026 4:19:37 PM EDT
[#22]
That would be a good price were it a factory machine gun, but registered receiver conversions are the least desirable transferable guns. IMO
7/1/2026 4:29:40 PM EDT
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7/1/2026 4:30:22 PM EDT
[#24]
The problem is it doesn’t have the fun switch
7/1/2026 4:31:01 PM EDT
[#25]
For those poo-pooing the registered receiver - how many transferrable Pre-68 HK MP5s are there on the registry? They would have to be pre-68, as that was when the import ban on NFA firearms came in.

IIRC the number of true HK MP5s on the registry could be counted on one hand? Maybe 2?
7/1/2026 4:31:51 PM EDT
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HK SP5 plus FRT for under $4k

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This
7/1/2026 4:32:21 PM EDT
[#27]
That's a fucking steal.

People are out there buying $100,000 trucks and jeeps at 7.5%.
7/1/2026 4:52:03 PM EDT
[#28]
MKE/Century AP5-SD

... If a super safe works in one, I want it.
7/1/2026 4:53:05 PM EDT
[#29]
want
7/1/2026 4:57:57 PM EDT
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I think there’s more of a “collectible” aspect than there is a “fun” aspect to this gun.

You can put a FRT in a SP5 or Turk clone and give yourself a reasonably authentic feeling experience, but it still won’t be the “real deal.”

The guys getting hit hardest in the transferable market are the ones with non-historical converted semi-auto guns or cheaper guns like MACs. The guys with the bring-back AKs, MP40s, Thompsons, registered M16s etc., likely won’t take too much of a hit.
7/1/2026 4:58:35 PM EDT
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Not if you happen to reside in one of those “special states”…
7/1/2026 4:59:58 PM EDT
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For those poo-pooing the registered receiver - how many transferrable Pre-68 HK MP5s are there on the registry? They would have to be pre-68, as that was when the import ban on NFA firearms came in.

IIRC the number of true HK MP5s on the registry could be counted on one hand? Maybe 2?
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Maybe it's a pre may DS that the ATF reclassified as transferable.
7/1/2026 5:01:46 PM EDT
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For those poo-pooing the registered receiver - how many transferrable Pre-68 HK MP5s are there on the registry? They would have to be pre-68, as that was when the import ban on NFA firearms came in.

IIRC the number of true HK MP5s on the registry could be counted on one hand? Maybe 2?
Maybe it's a pre may DS that the ATF reclassified as transferable.


I wish they had better pictures.  I have fired a dealer sample MP5K that belonged to a friend of mine, and it was stamped as a dealer sample.
7/1/2026 5:40:11 PM EDT
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I don't know about 2, but definitely less than ten.  

As to the "registered receiver" aspect, there are quite a few receivers in the registry that were registered as machine guns prior to 1986. Registered receiver guns are a one trick pony, the trigger pack is basically married to the receiver and cannot be used with other host guns.

I have a Pre-May "keeper" MP5SD that was imported after 1968.
7/1/2026 5:47:03 PM EDT
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I wish they had better pictures.  I have fired a dealer sample MP5K that belonged to a friend of mine, and it was stamped as a dealer sample.
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Dealer samples are post-ban samples and cannot be transferred to a private owner. Only FFLs with the proper SOT can have post samples.
7/1/2026 5:53:07 PM EDT
[#36]
Man.  That's pants on head retarded.  I remember when a DIAS or LL could be had for $100 out of Shotgun News...
7/1/2026 5:54:56 PM EDT
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Not completely true, a few years back the atf added 4000 or so machine guns that were dealer samples before 86 to the transferable registry, so there are transferable dealer samples out there.

Forgotten weapons did a video on it
7/1/2026 6:03:52 PM EDT
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Not if they did the correct push pin conversion. You can run any pack you want.
7/1/2026 6:05:27 PM EDT
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For those poo-pooing the registered receiver - how many transferrable Pre-68 HK MP5s are there on the registry? They would have to be pre-68, as that was when the import ban on NFA firearms came in.

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I don't think there are any except for the batch of "premays" that flipped and became transferable.
7/1/2026 6:07:12 PM EDT
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I think there’s more of a “collectible” aspect than there is a “fun” aspect to this gun.

You can put a FRT in a SP5 or Turk clone and give yourself a reasonably authentic feeling experience, but it still won’t be the “real deal.”

The guys getting hit hardest in the transferable market are the ones with non-historical converted semi-auto guns or cheaper guns like MACs. The guys with the bring-back AKs, MP40s, Thompsons, registered M16s etc., likely won’t take too much of a hit.
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Yep, the shaky ground is people with a $15k lightning link in their AR-15. If your paper clip breaks, it's gonna be a sad day.
7/1/2026 6:08:00 PM EDT
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It would go for twice that and they were certainly mention it in the description.
7/1/2026 6:09:27 PM EDT
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Ummm no. Pre86 dealer samples have no such markings. The Form 3 will be stamped "Sales Sample Only." A true factory MP5 with be a C prefix serial number.
7/1/2026 6:11:07 PM EDT
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Yeah I was kinda surprised at the price

haven't followed the market for a few years
45k was going rate 5-7 years ago
7/1/2026 6:12:11 PM EDT
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As to the "registered receiver" aspect, there are quite a few receivers in the registry that were registered as machine guns prior to 1986. Registered receiver guns are a one trick pony, the trigger pack is basically married to the receiver and cannot be used with other host guns.


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That is not correct.

What you are probably thinking is if they left the shelf setup, you aren't allowed to drill it out for a swing down pack. But if they set it up for a swing down pack, you can use any pack you want because the receiver rather than the sear is the machine gun.

The only reason people like sear conversions is the trigger group is the machine gun and you can use it on multiple host guns.
7/1/2026 6:13:20 PM EDT
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AS designs announced today their drop in FRT pack is in full production and available in August.

Works in all HK types except Cetme.
7/1/2026 6:13:22 PM EDT
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my guess is FRTs wont be a thing for long once the dems get enough control to legislate. that means the pool of real transferable MGs will still be a static thing and there value will only go up.

we live in the golden age of ersatz MGs
7/1/2026 6:13:57 PM EDT
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There are also pre 86 / pre may dealer samples that can only be sold to SOTs however you can keep them after you retire your license (unlike post samples) and you don't need a demo letter to purchase one.
7/1/2026 6:14:58 PM EDT
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Lol

HK SP5 plus FRT for under $4k

save $42k and no NFA registration.
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word
7/1/2026 6:15:12 PM EDT
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MKE/Century AP5-SD

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The rare greed works great
7/1/2026 6:15:16 PM EDT
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I should have taken out a loan to buy one when they were 10k

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